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I've been hearing that Ryanair are about to announce a daily STN-MAN service. Working in Manchester this would be very convenient for me, its a route I used a lot when Air Berlin made it cheap enough and the aircraft was often full. Can anyone shed any light on this?
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Im not sure if a STN-MAN would work for FR. It would need something like:
STN 0600 - MAN 0650
MAN 0715 - STN 0800
STN 2000 - MAN 2050
MAN 2115 - STN 2215
Maybe JER/ABZ/INV could work as new domestic services from STN?
STN 0600 - MAN 0650
MAN 0715 - STN 0800
STN 2000 - MAN 2050
MAN 2115 - STN 2215
Maybe JER/ABZ/INV could work as new domestic services from STN?
Stn-man
Those were similar timings to the FR Blackpool flights.
It was no problem at all getting very healthy loads from the Blackpool end, for people spending the day in London, but it was difficult persuading people in London to get up around 4am and not get back until midnight.
One of my work colleagues used to travel down from London and be in the office before most of the local staff. He generally finished around lunchtime, so would have been hanging round for hours waiting for the return flight, so ended up travelling back from Manchester.
It might work better from Manchester, although FR had an advantage from Blackpool as there is no proper rail service since the grey bearded wonder withdrew the direct link..
It was no problem at all getting very healthy loads from the Blackpool end, for people spending the day in London, but it was difficult persuading people in London to get up around 4am and not get back until midnight.
One of my work colleagues used to travel down from London and be in the office before most of the local staff. He generally finished around lunchtime, so would have been hanging round for hours waiting for the return flight, so ended up travelling back from Manchester.
It might work better from Manchester, although FR had an advantage from Blackpool as there is no proper rail service since the grey bearded wonder withdrew the direct link..
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A northern based aircraft would work a lot better than a southern based one as people need to get into London earlier than 10.30, which it would always be as the fliht didn't land in STN until 09.10. I was on it myself a number of times and there was always people running to get the train/bus to Liverpool Street in the centre.
However, basing one aircraft in the North would not be economically viable for an airline like Ryanair.
However, basing one aircraft in the North would not be economically viable for an airline like Ryanair.
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New Routes
New:Alghero, Fertilia (AHO) to Paris, Beauvais-Tille (BVA)
New:Alghero, Fertilia (AHO) to Brussels, Charleroi Brussels South (CRL)
New:Alghero, Fertilia (AHO) to Genova, Cristoforo Colombo (GOA)
New:Alghero, Fertilia (AHO) to Oslo, Sandefjord (TRF)
New:Alghero, Fertilia (AHO) to Treviso (TSF)
New:Bologna, Guglielmo Marconi (BLQ) to Paris, Beauvais-Tille (BVA)
New:Bologna, Guglielmo Marconi (BLQ) to Dusseldorf, Weeze (NRN)
New:Bologna, Guglielmo Marconi (BLQ) to Oslo, Sandefjord (TRF)
New:Cagliari, Elmas (CAG) to Rome, Ciampino (CIA)
New:Cagliari, Elmas (CAG) to Brussels, Charleroi Brussels South (CRL)
New:Cagliari, Elmas (CAG) to Cuneo, Levaldigi (CUF)
New:Cagliari, Elmas (CAG) to Edinburgh, Turnhouse (EDI)
New:Cagliari, Elmas (CAG) to Karlsruhe/Baden Baden, Soellingen (FKB)
New:Cagliari, Elmas (CAG) to Genova, Cristoforo Colombo (GOA)
New:Cagliari, Elmas (CAG) to Manchester (MAN)
New:Cagliari, Elmas (CAG) to Marseille, Provence (MRS)
New:Cagliari, Elmas (CAG) to Dusseldorf, Weeze (NRN)
New:Cagliari, Elmas (CAG) to Sevilla, San Pablo (SVQ)
New:Cagliari, Elmas (CAG) to Trieste, Ronchi Dei Legionari (TRS)
New:Cagliari, Elmas (CAG) to Treviso (TSF)
New:Cagliari, Elmas (CAG) to Verona, Brescia Montichiari (VBS)
New:Rome, Ciampino (CIA) to Trapani, Birgi (TPS)
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New:Alghero, Fertilia (AHO) to Brussels, Charleroi Brussels South (CRL)
New:Alghero, Fertilia (AHO) to Genova, Cristoforo Colombo (GOA)
New:Alghero, Fertilia (AHO) to Oslo, Sandefjord (TRF)
New:Alghero, Fertilia (AHO) to Treviso (TSF)
New:Bologna, Guglielmo Marconi (BLQ) to Paris, Beauvais-Tille (BVA)
New:Bologna, Guglielmo Marconi (BLQ) to Dusseldorf, Weeze (NRN)
New:Bologna, Guglielmo Marconi (BLQ) to Oslo, Sandefjord (TRF)
New:Cagliari, Elmas (CAG) to Rome, Ciampino (CIA)
New:Cagliari, Elmas (CAG) to Brussels, Charleroi Brussels South (CRL)
New:Cagliari, Elmas (CAG) to Cuneo, Levaldigi (CUF)
New:Cagliari, Elmas (CAG) to Edinburgh, Turnhouse (EDI)
New:Cagliari, Elmas (CAG) to Karlsruhe/Baden Baden, Soellingen (FKB)
New:Cagliari, Elmas (CAG) to Genova, Cristoforo Colombo (GOA)
New:Cagliari, Elmas (CAG) to Manchester (MAN)
New:Cagliari, Elmas (CAG) to Marseille, Provence (MRS)
New:Cagliari, Elmas (CAG) to Dusseldorf, Weeze (NRN)
New:Cagliari, Elmas (CAG) to Sevilla, San Pablo (SVQ)
New:Cagliari, Elmas (CAG) to Trieste, Ronchi Dei Legionari (TRS)
New:Cagliari, Elmas (CAG) to Treviso (TSF)
New:Cagliari, Elmas (CAG) to Verona, Brescia Montichiari (VBS)
New:Rome, Ciampino (CIA) to Trapani, Birgi (TPS)
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STN-MAN might work, although I think 0600 departure for a domestic flight is a tad early, more like 0630. Not sure but there may also be an issue with crew report times for an 0600 departure as Ryanair rarely have anything scheduled out of STN before 0610.
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One other new route:
New:Cagliari, Elmas (CAG) to Paris, Beauvais-Tille (BVA)
With this are 23 new route and 14 from CAG
New:Cagliari, Elmas (CAG) to Paris, Beauvais-Tille (BVA)
With this are 23 new route and 14 from CAG
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You say a northern based aircraft would not be viable for FR. But surely they will fly a holiday resort airport in Europe (Spain) somewhere during the working hours in between. Assuming its not already served by LPL and I can't see why the aircraft wouldn't be a success. Although like you say if its just one based then it would seem unlikely.
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Alghero + Cagliari
Do Alghero and Cagliari really get enough demand for non-domestic flights outside the May-September period ?
As far as I'm aware, unlike the Costa del Sol there aren't swatches of non-locals with appartments on Sardinia. For someone living in NW Europe, a trip to the beach in January somehow doesn't hold much appeal ! In any case, if you want warmth, would Palermo be a safer bet ? Or, was demand for AHO and CAG far greater than expected last winter ?
I'm puzzled why MOL didn't pick somewhere near Naples (e.g. Salerno) as a base so as to get bi-directional demand. Anyone in the know care to give a likely rationale for the Sardinia option ?
As far as I'm aware, unlike the Costa del Sol there aren't swatches of non-locals with appartments on Sardinia. For someone living in NW Europe, a trip to the beach in January somehow doesn't hold much appeal ! In any case, if you want warmth, would Palermo be a safer bet ? Or, was demand for AHO and CAG far greater than expected last winter ?
I'm puzzled why MOL didn't pick somewhere near Naples (e.g. Salerno) as a base so as to get bi-directional demand. Anyone in the know care to give a likely rationale for the Sardinia option ?
Alghero + Cagliari
pee - I agree that Alghero and Cagliari may very well become new routes. I'm just puzzled as to why MOL would choose these 2 places for new bases instead of other places in Italy
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I think EZY has the better places and destinations if they will open FCO and VCE as bases after MXP and connect these airports. Also they serve NAP, PMO and CTA instead of AHO, FRL, Trapani or Cuneo.
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I'm just puzzled as to why MOL would choose these 2 places for new bases instead of other places in Italy
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DJ6, I can confirm Sardinia shuts up for the winter. When I work there in Feb, I always take Easyjet from LGW but via Milan nightstopping, costs about £100 return, against BA or Ailitalia wanting £900 a pop. There is no winter tourist traffic.
RYR aren't intersted in the pax, its the subsidies they want. Why fly to Lourdes from Stansted as a ski destination, why not advertise it as a Pilgrims destination................... because they dont want to have to deal with Wheelchairs etc.
Its going to be interesting to see what they do when 5 wheelchair pax turn up along with Mary , Mungo the guide dog and Midge the pet assist hamster !
RYR aren't intersted in the pax, its the subsidies they want. Why fly to Lourdes from Stansted as a ski destination, why not advertise it as a Pilgrims destination................... because they dont want to have to deal with Wheelchairs etc.
Its going to be interesting to see what they do when 5 wheelchair pax turn up along with Mary , Mungo the guide dog and Midge the pet assist hamster !
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And what about Bologna? Could be also a new base because the new flights to NRN, BVA and TRF are operated by a BLQ based aircraft. FR said that BLQ is supposed to be base in 2010. Maybe the start is earlier because AZ struggles and the Italian market is very important and successful for FR.