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Old 11th Feb 2012, 18:53
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Wow great photos in that link Would have loved to have seen a photo of the DC6 crossing the road with the traffic held up.
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Old 12th Feb 2012, 09:42
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More plans have been revealed in our local Sunday newspaper this morning.

-The extension of the North & West Apron next to the Ocean Sky hangar to accomodate private aircraft on Stand 10.
-No further extension of the current main terminal building, however a 'H' shape concourse will accomodate maybe another 10 departure gates.
-The current South Apron will now accomodate airlines rather than private aircraft as part of this pier extension as well as new aircraft stands for maybe 4-5 large aircraft just to the North of this apron.
-New taxiway parallel to Taxiway Delta.
-Extension of Taxiway Alpha to the full runway length with one additional high speed run-off taxiway at both 08 and 26.
-Multi storey car park on, I think, the short term car park.
-Less check in desks and better baggage drop facilities.
-New bus drop off area connected to the Luton & Dunstable Busway.

These plans look all well and good, but surely these plans will make ground transport to and from the airport even worse than it currently is. It is imperative further detail must include improvements to the arrivals and central search area - these areas really stretched to the limit at the moment.

The operator really is trying to squeeze every single inch out of the current airport site. In my opinion, a better option could've been to build new stands on the site/next to the site of the current car park, next to Stand 62.

The newspaper has published a picture, so hopefully someone will copy it across.
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Old 12th Feb 2012, 10:14
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Grrr

I am told that Wizz could be moving into the 'huge' Russian market soon?

Local News in Luton, Dunstable and Bedfordshire | Airport reveals plan to up passenger numbers

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Old 12th Feb 2012, 10:34
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Well the plans to alter the road layout for the summer season must be dead in the water now. Abertis must have drawn up its plans without knowing the council was looking at expanding the capacity of the airport.

The new 2012 proposed road around the short term car park which basically follows the temporary route that relieves congestion sits in the middle of the proposed new apron.

The drop off and pick up area appears to be inside a multistory car park.

Looks like the old terminal and arrivals area are going to be reconfigured. Much of this area is now disused after the demise of Silverjet. Much of the old departure lounge including abandoned shops and bars still remain.

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Old 12th Feb 2012, 11:44
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Grrr

DC-6 arrived via the grass taxiways, wings were too wide to cross the road. Could only just fit a Jetstar and Hubbardair Twin Otter between the gates and lamp posts.

So parallel taxiways, rapid exits off the runway, BLIMEY! In danger of becoming a proper airport!
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Old 12th Feb 2012, 12:01
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Buster - sounds interesting. From the rumours you've heard, would this be a
1 - Budapest - Russia non-stop route, with connections ticketed separately and at a passenger's own risk
2 - Luton - via Budapest - Russia route, with formal connections at Wizz's risk, perhaps being just a nominal stop in Budapest but passengers not even leaving their seats
3 - Luton - Russia non-stop route

When I talk about Budapest, there is of course the possibility that one might wish to substitute Kiev, Belgrade or Sofia instead
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Old 12th Feb 2012, 12:36
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Can remember the Hubbardair Twin Otter as is used to sometimes use the grass runway 18 and fly low over what is now Asda and then Fine Fare. I used to live between Fine Fare and the grass runway and the aircraft would rattle the house as it passed overhead.
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Old 12th Feb 2012, 16:47
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Grrr

Bi-lateral would be a problem for Wizz, depends if bmi continue the route long-term out of Heathrow after the merger?
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Old 12th Feb 2012, 17:28
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TO RUSSIA WITH WIZZ

How about St Petersburg. A lot of Russians tramp across to Lampeenrata in Finland to use the Ryanair service (they have to change to get to UK). Just a thought.
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Old 12th Feb 2012, 17:32
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Sorry to disagre with you Buster but I am positive I saw the DC-6 taxi across from the old Stand 9 area to the grass area unless my memory is playing tricks.
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Old 12th Feb 2012, 19:58
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In that Press Release:
Mr Heappey said: “We will make better use of the space. At the moment there is a colossal check-in hall and you rarely see all the desks in use. “That is absolutely a sign of the times where airlines encourage people to check-in at home online.
True, they had the misfortune to design and build the terminal in the 1990s, before the impact of the Net was clear.



“So there will be less check-in desks, better baggage drop facilities and security ar`eas where it can be a real bottleneck at peak times. “There will also be more places for people to sit and relax.”
Tricky. There is room to move things around in the big hall but upstairs is firmly limited by the walls of the building. Not to mention all those shops! The only REAL answer to speed up the process is more people working to serve the pax. But we all know that hiring more people is 'a very bad thing'.
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Old 12th Feb 2012, 20:33
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Are you sure there was a press release?

It seems very strange to me that there's no information yet on the dedicated FutureLuton website which carries the text of all previous press releases, and the newspaper article is billed as an "exclusive".

Does this mean that Mr Heappey has done the dirty on his own organisation, leaking information to the local press in advance of the official announcement?

In any case it seems to be pretty disrespectful to the public, who have been told that everything will be made clear tomorrow through the official channel.
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Old 12th Feb 2012, 20:49
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True, they had the misfortune to design and build the terminal in the 1990s, before the impact of the Net was clear.
Agree check-in desks 201-210 could go but not so sure about decreasing 1-62. Despite the internet new airlines to Luton would still need desks to check-in some of their passengers and existing airlines will need more desks in the future.

So the next question is what do they use the saved space downstairs for? Maybe they will move the passenger search area back downstairs or put a baggage belt in although another belt could go into the disused shopping area in the old terminal just by moving the stud wall.

Tricky. There is room to move things around in the big hall but upstairs is firmly limited by the walls of the building. Not to mention all those shops! The only REAL answer to speed up the process is more people working to serve the pax. But we all know that hiring more people is 'a very bad thing'
The secret is going to be getting passengers to wait by the gates quicker than now. Even now there is plenty of room to hold passengers in the old departure lounge which still serves gates on the main apron. No doubt the new walkways to the new apron and south stands will be spacious with seating and bars.

I have read somewhere that Stansted sits on 4 times more land than Luton yet Luton wants to increase passenger numbers to something like what Stansted now handles.

The pinch points will always be traffic into the CTA and as we all know the airport has never come up with a proper solution. Now the council want to increase passengers by another 8 million and this area is not getting any bigger.
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Old 12th Feb 2012, 21:57
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Thinking 10 years ahead, who has the freehold on EasyJet's HQ ? If the airport own the building, is the rental income a real money spinner (versus increasing airport capacity), and how long til the next date in the lease that Easyjet can be asked to vacate ?

Even better, to solve 2 problems at the same time, Easyjet might like to buy Donington Hall (estate agent would be very happy to show Ms McCall around) ?

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Old 12th Feb 2012, 23:43
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Can't see that making any additional 'real' space. I think EZY are happy in their current HQ.
All future plans show a more use East and South of the central area.
As for as Donnington Hall RIP!
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Old 13th Feb 2012, 08:37
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Wizz update:
Dubrovnik now taken off booking page and Split sunday rotation looks canx
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Old 13th Feb 2012, 09:26
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And the reason for the above is-----
NEW ROUTE DEBRECEN 3 x weekly
Mon /Wed /Fri 0600 dep

So will Dubrovnik be dropped as Split takes up Tue/Thur /Sat and Sun at 06.00 dep so the LTN based a/c is now fully deployed for the summer
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Old 13th Feb 2012, 12:58
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futureLuToNptimisation
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Old 13th Feb 2012, 17:11
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Anyone pop into the Hat Factory today - to see any more detail?
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Old 13th Feb 2012, 17:26
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Guess there is no more info than what is on the updated website.

I see they want to extend the terminal over the bus station meaning that the entrance doors will be swung 90 degrees to face the control tower.

Also that Farnborough now handles more biz jets than Luton
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