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Old 8th Jun 2011, 12:45
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Didn't they do well to navigate that roundabout !!!!!!!
yeah but they went the wrong way round it.
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Old 8th Jun 2011, 13:10
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They had to go round the wrong way. so they would be the correct way for parking. Or forgot we drive on the left and not the right.
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Old 8th Jun 2011, 14:48
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OTOH - An aircraft like this is like a Big Gorilla, it sits where it wants and goes around roundabout whatever way it wants as well.
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Old 8th Jun 2011, 17:23
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All lamp posts still standing, very skillfull by the driver
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Old 8th Jun 2011, 17:29
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''it sits where it wants and goes around roundabout whatever way it wants as well.'' ---sounds like the wife !!!
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Old 8th Jun 2011, 17:36
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Was this the aircraft which took 1/2 the 26 approach lighting out or was it one of the 747s, on takeoff?
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Old 8th Jun 2011, 17:49
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Remember in 1987 I think the first B747 to land at Luton - International Caribbean do a sub for Britannia to Faro made a right mess of the sides of the runway - dust, dirt etc. but not any approach lights.
Also in the mid-1970s a Dan-Air B727 took off for Corfu 2 1/2 tons overweight and took out a number of lights on the 08 end. The Captain never flew again for Dan-Air!
Hope I have got the facts right - maybe Vintage ATCO would like to confirm please?
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Old 8th Jun 2011, 18:23
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Remember in 1987 I think the first B747 to land at Luton - International Caribbean do a sub for Britannia to Faro made a right mess of the sides of the runway - dust, dirt etc. but not any approach lights
Almost right it was the take off that did the damage. Full power then release of the brakes.

I can also remember an exec jet knocking over some of the approach light pylons on 26 when an approach was made in thick fog. From memory the damage was done a long way from the runway so the aircraft must have then carried out a go around. This must have been a good 20 years ago.

Then there was the occasion when the airport authority thought it would be a good idea to block pave the turning circle. All was OK until an aircraft was damaged when the bricks came free due to jet blast.

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Old 8th Jun 2011, 19:56
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Also in the mid-1970s a Dan-Air B727 took off for Corfu 2 1/2 tons overweight and took out a number of lights on the 08 end. The Captain never flew again for Dan-Air!
21 June 1974 G-BAEF hit the runway 26 localiser and 08 approach lights on take-off and diverted to Gatwick with damage. The 26 ILS was out of action for many months. I was the Tower controller.

It was not overweight, accident report http://www.aaib.gov.uk/cms_resources...F%20Append.pdf. Don't know about the fate of the Captain.

I can also remember an exec jet knocking over some of the approach light pylons on 26 when an approach was made in thick fog. From memory the damage was done a long way from the runway so the aircraft must have then carried out a go around. This must have been a good 20 years ago.
Yes, can't remember when or what but I remember seeing a photograph taken after it landed at Heathrow with a dent in the top of the nose coaming after coming into contact with an approach light, before it climbed away on the go around.

Then there was the occasion when the airport authority thought it would be a good idea to block pave the turning circle. All was OK until an aircraft was damaged when the bricks came free due to jet blast.
Not just the airport authority but many other agencies including the CAA and RAF thought it a good idea. The RAF were going to bring a Harrier to test it but it never happened.

It was not simple jet blast that caused the disruption but the Bernoulli effect from low slung jet engines. Older generation jets were not (apparently) a problem but then along came the Boeing 737-300. The incident occurred after a prolonged period of heavy rain. The interlocking blocks were laid on sand which became saturated, a problem not envisaged. The Bernouilli effect caused the blocks to be sucked upwards which were then disrupted from the raised position from the jet blast as the aircraft rolled. I was first on the scene following the incident.

A complete rethink was necessary afterwards, not just by Luton but by other airports considering using them. They were tried to mitigate the effect of jet fuel that inevitable vented form some aircraft when they made the 180deg turn at the end of the runway. They had been used successfully on apron stands to mitigate the same problem. Luton Airport were praised by the CAA for their open and honest reporting of the incident to the aviation community at large.

Luton Airport were sued over the incident but the case was withdrawn by the plaintiff.
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Old 9th Jun 2011, 08:28
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Many thanks gentlemen, I knew you would put me right. Regarding the 2 1/2 ton overweight I was very friendly with one of the Dan-Air Station Managers at Luton for many years one BF who told me the story about the overweight regarding the load sheet but he was not on duty at the time. Cheers C3B
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Old 9th Jun 2011, 09:53
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I remember the Falcon well!

For some reason the ILS was off and I had to give him a 2 mile SRA in not very good weather.

The trouble was I don't think he knew what an SRA was. Mind you the headings must have been good as he hit the approach lights!
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Old 9th Jun 2011, 10:52
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Thanks Gents, your memories are better than mine
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Old 9th Jun 2011, 17:47
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I know the approach light pylons are designed to break on impact but that Falcon crew had a near death experience. I think the aircraft struck the second row in, which was a mighty long way from the threshold. Also due to the runway being on top of a hill those lights where below the runway.
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Old 9th Jun 2011, 18:38
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Grrr

And then there was VR-CBQ!
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Old 9th Jun 2011, 18:52
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Don't know that one but at the fire station at Stopsley they have a photo on the wall of a crashed Hawker Hunter that ended up on the grass minus its undercarriage. Iím sure the new control tower is in the background but I know nothing of this incident.
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Old 10th Jun 2011, 08:44
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It was Rod Dean returning from RIAT 1999 to Cranfield. He couldn't get the right main gear down and as Cranfield was closed with no fire cover (he had approval to land there) opted to divert to Luton. He first call inbound with a gear problem also included the phrase '20mins fuel remaining'. Exceptionally well handled by everyone involved especially Rod who managed to land it with little damage. The right hand external tank took the initial impact and then broke off. There was a small fire soon extinguished. The aircraft was flying again three days later.

I have the pics taken by the police heli but will not be posting them.

I was at RIAT leading the hot air balloonists off the airfield when my mobile went off. All I heard was 'there's been a crash' before I lost the signal. Because of congestion on the network with 75000 people trying to phone home it was ages before I could get a line home.
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Old 15th Jun 2011, 12:28
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Grrr

With Blue Air surviving a near-death experience, I bet the airport operator is delighted as the loads seem to be good?

When I arrived back from Kerry last week, I came through the domestic arrivals area and by-passed immigation. Is Eire now part of the UK since we lent them a few bob, or have the rules changed?

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Old 15th Jun 2011, 14:13
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New Route

Easy to launch twice weekly Luton-Salzburg starting 17 December
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Old 15th Jun 2011, 18:04
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Source: CAA Provisional figures

May 2011 861244 +10.1% and rolling year 9101489 +3.3% ATM's 6684 +6.2%

Am I correct in think Luton did not close in May 2010 due the ash cloud?

CAA stats shows 10 inbound diversions and none out.

Quite a good figure then

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Old 15th Jun 2011, 23:50
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See Posts #2792 onwards.....
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