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With regards to the Air Asia X flight that diverted in from STN, it seems that Air Asia X CEO Tony Fernandes wasnt at all impressed with the service they recieved at BHX and will consider an alternative diversion airport in future.
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Stu
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Depends on what was explained to Air Asia before the diversion.
If it was "yes everything is fine, we can handle you no problem",
then I too would be upset.
However if Air Asia had done their homework and realised that it
would be arriving after an eight hour snow dump and temperatures
nearing -10, then they don't have too much to complain about.
Saturday evening was challenging to say the least and that is why
a lot of long-haul no doubt chose mainland Europe rather than the UK.
Pete
Depends on what was explained to Air Asia before the diversion.
If it was "yes everything is fine, we can handle you no problem",
then I too would be upset.
However if Air Asia had done their homework and realised that it
would be arriving after an eight hour snow dump and temperatures
nearing -10, then they don't have too much to complain about.
Saturday evening was challenging to say the least and that is why
a lot of long-haul no doubt chose mainland Europe rather than the UK.
Pete
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"I just happened to be in my local Chinese Take-Away as BBC were talking to one of the BHX-TFS passengers via a mobile phone. Now how true this is or not but apparently a cabin crew member had informed the passengers that they could have departed however the crew would have been out of hours to make the return trip TFS-BHX. IF this is true then sounds like an O'Leary company policy that FR will not provide crew accommodation under any circumstances, failing that there is no policy in place that crew carry night stop gear with them and, perhaps, the crew had no pyjamas etc. with them! If this is true I can imagine why the passengers are p1ssed off!
The lady was complaining how there were 300 people stuck on the plane and that the police had been called to forcibly remove them. (max passenger configuration is 189)
It is quite true that the crew could have been in hours and do the single flight down to TFS. It was probably left down to the crew's discretion, and I'd have probably made the same decision not to go.
There is NO company policy that RYR will not provide accommodation due to unforeseen night stops, infact quite the opposite. Whenever I've talked to colleagues who have stopped over, the hotels have been good and include dinner and breakfast.
Why should we carry 'night stop gear?' We plan to come back to base every night. With around 260 aircraft, the number of night stops experienced by the company is less than you can count on one hand in any given month
You've also got to think of the bigger picture, having an aircraft stuck down in TFS makes it unavailable for the next days flights, further disrupting the schedule.
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It is quite true that the crew could have been in hours and do the single flight down to TFS. It was probably left down to the crew's discretion, and I'd have probably made the same decision not to go
There is NO company policy that RYR will not provide accommodation due to unforeseen night stops, infact quite the opposite. Whenever I've talked to colleagues who have stopped over, the hotels have been good and include dinner and breakfast.
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Am hearing reports that an ek b777 diversion has steered off taxiway and is sinking into grass ??
Sounds like bhx having a bit of a mare this past couple of days.......whoops
Sounds like bhx having a bit of a mare this past couple of days.......whoops
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Emirates on the piste in Brum
A plane diverted from London Heathrow due to the freezing weather conditions has partly come off the taxi-way at Birmingham Airport.
The Emirates aircraft, a Boeing 777-300ER, was carrying 282 passengers and landed routinely at 1354 GMT, Birmingham Airport said.
While proceeding to the terminal, it "inadvertently" taxied on to the grass, leaving a set of wheels stuck.
The Emirates aircraft, a Boeing 777-300ER, was carrying 282 passengers and landed routinely at 1354 GMT, Birmingham Airport said.
While proceeding to the terminal, it "inadvertently" taxied on to the grass, leaving a set of wheels stuck.
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Usually they operate a 2 class 77W to BHX. For this time of year, this seems like a pretty mediocre LF (although it is 66%).
However, some reports suggest this acft was actually diverting.
Seems like a fairly minor incident, but EK (and other ME carriers) tend to be a little heavy handed when it comes to discipline, so hopefully the crew won't be too harshly treated when they return to DXB.
However, some reports suggest this acft was actually diverting.
Seems like a fairly minor incident, but EK (and other ME carriers) tend to be a little heavy handed when it comes to discipline, so hopefully the crew won't be too harshly treated when they return to DXB.
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This was EK29 - a LHR divert.
To be honest BHX has to take some responsibility for this one.
Originally slated for stand 54C, BHX changed it to 41C because their own EK service hadn't left yet (predicted by anyone capable of comparing ETA and ETD times). Then, after realising that 41C was still occupied by a TOM 757 they swapped it to 55C - but didn't notify EK29 until after they had passed the turn for 55C. EK29 went off-road while attempting a u-turn to get back to 55C.
To be honest BHX has to take some responsibility for this one.
Originally slated for stand 54C, BHX changed it to 41C because their own EK service hadn't left yet (predicted by anyone capable of comparing ETA and ETD times). Then, after realising that 41C was still occupied by a TOM 757 they swapped it to 55C - but didn't notify EK29 until after they had passed the turn for 55C. EK29 went off-road while attempting a u-turn to get back to 55C.
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BBC Midlands who were recording the diversion now saying the pilot 'cut the corner'
And BHX want a 380 to operate? so back to the argument of the infrastructure at the airport as reported in the Birmingham thread.
And BHX want a 380 to operate? so back to the argument of the infrastructure at the airport as reported in the Birmingham thread.
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I fail to see what relevance the unfortunate mis-routing of a B777 onto the grass has to do with BHXs' capability or otherwise of handling A380s.
It may have a little more relevance as to the capability of the commander of the aircraft to keep it on piste in the first place, or other external factors perhaps in combination.
It may have a little more relevance as to the capability of the commander of the aircraft to keep it on piste in the first place, or other external factors perhaps in combination.
I fail to see what relevance the unfortunate mis-routing of a B777 onto the grass has to do with BHXs' capability or otherwise of handling A380s.
Having once worked in flt ops planning many moons ago infrastructure concerns are always raised when planning routes. In other words can the airport cope.
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It speaks volumes for BHX's inability to cope when things get busy.
I've seen plenty of releases from BHX's press office stating that they're operating at 50% capacity and they could help clear the overcrowding at LHR. The runway may cope with 50% more movements but the terminal and staff couldn't cope with 50% more PAX.
I've seen plenty of releases from BHX's press office stating that they're operating at 50% capacity and they could help clear the overcrowding at LHR. The runway may cope with 50% more movements but the terminal and staff couldn't cope with 50% more PAX.
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Usually they operate a 2 class 77W to BHX. For this time of year, this seems like a pretty mediocre LF (although it is 66%).
This was EK29 - a LHR divert.
Even so you would have expected it to be chokka after all the LHR disruption.
Suzeman