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Old 18th Jan 2009, 19:15
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They dont call themeselves LO COST anymore Paully...

Theres a new strapline "a great deal.......friendlier'

TSR2...Then pay by Electron or Solo...I do with Ryanair and avoid MOLs so called stealth charges.
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Old 18th Jan 2009, 19:16
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Oh, get a grip! The cheap fares are still out there! Also, yes, the aircraft are not new, but would hardly call them VERY elderly! If Jet2 suddenly announced fleet renewal plans and orders for new aircraft, you lot would be the first to criticise them! lol
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Old 18th Jan 2009, 19:37
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Well said jet2impress! Ok Jet2's aircraft may not be the newest in the world but they are well maintained and as a result have no more tech delays than anairline with brand new aircraft. I have noticed recently that alot of the 737's have been given a makeover inside with new lighting, brighter interior walls and recovered seats! Acually make's the cabin look brand new. The only thing missing is new style overhead locker doors.

As for the stealth charges. If you actaully do some research you'll find that most of the additional charges such as excess, hold bags and prebooked seats are alot cheaper than other low cost airlines!
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Old 18th Jan 2009, 20:58
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Jet2impress

Try Ryanair or easyjet.....you do get a newer aircraft...its one of their selling points, and if you check their fares for a run down to malaga like I have over the last week from all their northern departure points,sorry they aint cheap......
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Old 18th Jan 2009, 23:01
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Not true:
Jet2 Baggage - £19.98 return
Monarch Scheduled - £15.98 return
easyjet - £15.00 return
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Old 19th Jan 2009, 07:15
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Freightdoggy you will find at the bottom of the home page the following:

Cheap Flights with Jet2.com, the low cost airline .

So they do in fact call themselves low cost. However this is semantics, in reality they are low cost for some and not for others.
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Old 19th Jan 2009, 10:26
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As is ryanair ...easyjet.....etc etc, a pointless conversation.
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Old 19th Jan 2009, 18:51
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Who really cares? If you dont like it dont fly with Jet2! Jeasus this is like saying why does Tesco charge 29p for a can of beans that Morrisons charge 28p for. If you don't like it, book with easyJet or whoever you want, dont winge about it on PPRuNe!!


..... atleast Jet2 dont charge you £30 to check one bag in at the airport like Ryanair .... oh wait a sec .... who gives a dam. If you dont like it take the chuffing train.
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Old 19th Jan 2009, 20:39
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Freightdoggy you will find at the bottom of the home page the following:

Cheap Flights with Jet2.com, the low cost airline .
Familiarise yourself with the concept of SEO and you'll have learned something today.

If it gets you the hits, you put it on your website. If you put it in bold, Google et al find it quicker.

This is what I do to put food on the table.

Hi.
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Old 21st Jan 2009, 00:05
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What does Jet2 run to Murcia in the Summer from Manchester?

757s?

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Old 21st Jan 2009, 09:32
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What does Jet2 run to Murcia in the Summer from Manchester?
Slags.

Same from Leeds.
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Old 21st Jan 2009, 12:27
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Slags.

Same from Leeds.
That made me chuckle.
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Old 21st Jan 2009, 12:27
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Harrogate - I am familiar with the concept, I was merely correcting the ascertion that Jet2 didn't market itself as low cost, which it does for the reasons you alude to.

In effect though looking at the routes/frequencies that they offer to some destinations i.e the Greek Islands isn't it actually incorrect to bracket them with the likes of Ryanair or Easyjet. Both of whom one would readily accept as LowCost Operators, when in fact what they are doing is block selling to tour operators and selling the rest of the seats themselves. A smart move in my humble opinion.
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Old 21st Jan 2009, 16:59
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Harrogate - I am familiar with the concept, I was merely correcting the ascertion that Jet2 didn't market itself as low cost, which it does for the reasons you alude to.

In effect though looking at the routes/frequencies that they offer to some destinations i.e the Greek Islands isn't it actually incorrect to bracket them with the likes of Ryanair or Easyjet. Both of whom one would readily accept as LowCost Operators, when in fact what they are doing is block selling to tour operators and selling the rest of the seats themselves. A smart move in my humble opinion.
It's down to how you interpret what a low cost operator is innit. The original lo-cos were based on the American model, which was quite a rigid formula. They were point-to-point, flew to peripheral airports and, had single class cabins, flew direct, no frilly add ons, single aircraft type, etc.

These days, our lo-cos don't conform to many of those principles, so the term 'lo co' is probably redundant, or needs to be elaborated on when used.

With the advent of longhaul low cost operators, both on direct and indirect routes, the model is evolving again. In fact, it's no longer a model at all. It's more of an umbrella term that applies to most of the airlines that don't fall into the legacy or flag carrier categories.

You can look at Jet2 and say that they never actually were a true lo-co anyway. They've nearly always flown direct to major airports (apart from Leeds, ho ho) and they've always had enhanced services. These days they also chuck in the odd longhaul route, and operate more than one type of aircraft.

They clearly know that they're not a true lo-co, but they've rather cleverly paddled onto that wave and have had a lot of success in doing so. It's no secret to a lot of their repeat customers (of which there is undeniably a lot) that they offer more than a no frills experience.

So yeah, it's down to labelling. They're still a cheap airline in the general scheme of things, but they were never a 'true' low-cost airline, in the strictest definition of the term. You do get more bang for your buck with them in most cases, but there's only so low they can drop their fares, because of the fundamental fact that they're not flying to peripheral airports. So at least part of their fundamental business model prevents them from being a lo-co. You pay a bit more for it, but the trade off is that you probably fly to nearer you need to be in most cases.

Their lo-co style marketing of remaining seats on charter routes is not something new. Look at other larger holiday airlines to see how that's been going on a lot over recent years. But yeah - it's working for them. They're performing as well as any other airline at the moment, and considerably better than a fair few.
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Old 22nd Jan 2009, 10:14
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Performing well?

My cousin has just been told that their training course is cancelled less than 2 weeks before it was due to start. That sounds like a company very unsure about what's going on to me.
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Old 22nd Jan 2009, 14:38
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Or more likely it's simply a company reacting to changing market conditions. But yeah - that reaction stems from uncertainty. So what? Who knows how things are gonna pan out in any industry at the moment? Let us all know if you know someone who can tell us.

Things are unpredictable at present, and that changes things. That's completely obvious. You wouldn't expect Tesco to recruit staff for the 22 stores they initially planned to build this year, as opposed to the 13 they'll actually now build.

So Jet2 might be re-thinking various plans, given the volatile market. I can't see how that can be regarded as anything other than responsible and prudent. It would be irresponsible to push forward with plans that don't reflect the reality of the changing market.

Call me old fashioned.
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Old 22nd Jan 2009, 16:25
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Can anyone give an insight into how bookings are going for the new routes to NQY for Summer '09?
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Old 23rd Jan 2009, 19:33
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Not true:
Jet2 Baggage - £19.98 return
Monarch Scheduled - £15.98 return
easyjet - £15.00 return
There's a difference though; Jet2 gives you 22kg allowance. Easyjet and Monarch 20kg. If your bag is 22kg with Easyjet or Monarch the excess baggage charge besides the already bag charge will be much higher than £19.98.
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Old 24th Jan 2009, 06:15
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The cabin crew training course has not been cancelled, it's been rescheduled. I think it was a fairly small course, so they decided to combine it with one held in MAN instead.
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Old 24th Jan 2009, 06:53
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Harrogate....I always try to learn something everyday, especially sitting around the pool in Dubai with a cold drink in hand admiring the B.A and Jet2 cabin crew !

Now thats what I would call friendly not lo cost

Have always been "Commited to Cargo"...sorry "Low Cost"...erm "Charters"

Whatever
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