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I very much doubt LS will only have one a/c flying from MAN this winter. The airport mayt have become a smaller base now but surely not that small!
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Seems to be 3 75's presently based MAN, Can't see them basing only one 75??
Anything can change before October.
I very much doubt LS will only have one a/c flying from MAN this winter. The airport mayt have become a smaller base now but surely not that small!
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Seems to be 3 75's presently based MAN, Can't see them basing only one 75??
Anything can change before October.
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I have been told that LS had to put up a plane load of passengers in the 4* Hotel Vulcano, Playa de las America, Tenerife last night (expensive!). Anyone know what the problem was?
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I agree, Running a scheduled airline is not what PM has experience in.
Think now the time has come where, The airline needs other people with a bit more low cost or scheduled experience to help run it.
As for 4* what's the need for it.
Any hotel or appartment would have been just as sufficient and a little cheaper.
Think now the time has come where, The airline needs other people with a bit more low cost or scheduled experience to help run it.
As for 4* what's the need for it.
Any hotel or appartment would have been just as sufficient and a little cheaper.
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In an emergency you have to put passengers where there is room irrespective of the star rating.Intrigued why a Four Star hotel would have so many spare rooms anyway at this time of year - Probably got them very cheap in the circumstances
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It was the 4 star Arona Grand in Los Cristianos last summer when an aircraft went tech. (LSAC)
That made sense as us LS crews had been staying there in Winter 06 so they would of got a good deal.
Amazingly, some passengers were very pleased that they had been put up in a four star hotel and I even flew two of them back to Tenerife this summer and other crew members said they have also bumped into returning pax from the same delayed flight last year!!
What did O'Pikey say about loyalty and dogs??
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Tommie Cook and Last Choice's 75's are not much younger either.
Technically, according to Boeing, the 75 was designed to last 40 years so their only half way though their useful lives....................... Boeing didn't say anything about the increased engineering costs though!!
That made sense as us LS crews had been staying there in Winter 06 so they would of got a good deal.
Amazingly, some passengers were very pleased that they had been put up in a four star hotel and I even flew two of them back to Tenerife this summer and other crew members said they have also bumped into returning pax from the same delayed flight last year!!
What did O'Pikey say about loyalty and dogs??
FLB
Tommie Cook and Last Choice's 75's are not much younger either.
Technically, according to Boeing, the 75 was designed to last 40 years so their only half way though their useful lives....................... Boeing didn't say anything about the increased engineering costs though!!
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Jet2 to sell off chinese 757s
Heard a rumour today that we are gonna be selling off the chinese 757s AG AH AI as they are worth today alot more than when we bought them! and we are buying some 737-800s as early as oct, as its easier to fill a 737-800 in the winter than a 757! anyone able to shed any light on this! 
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Not had AG AH AI that long, Thought they might run them for a couple of years yet??
I can 'Vouch' for AI flew to PMI on it a few weeks back, It is looking very tired now, Also had no IFE, So I guess it might be moving on.
I can 'Vouch' for AI flew to PMI on it a few weeks back, It is looking very tired now, Also had no IFE, So I guess it might be moving on.
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Having flown on AG, AH, AI and AJ for that matter, I personally think they are spot on. If however they can trade them in/offset them for some newer 737/800's, then that sound good to me. No Cat III issues on 32 at LBA in Winter, less maintenance and fuel costs I would imagine, and increased load factors when filling a 186 seater instead of a 238 seater.
I must admit that it is rare I see a 757 come in with much more than about 190-200 punters on.
I must admit that it is rare I see a 757 come in with much more than about 190-200 punters on.
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In an emergency you have to put passengers where there is room irrespective of the star rating.Intrigued why a Four Star hotel would have so many spare rooms anyway at this time of year - Probably got them very cheap in the circumstances
Despite it being peak UK holiday period, Tenerife is very quiet at the moment and the hotels, including very good ones like this are half empty. The reason....? In my opinion it is the lack of flight availability because the operatos, including Locos, have cut back far too much. Well over £300 return for flight only! Same applies to Alicante and the Costas at the moment. Jet2 are one of the culprits in being too defensive - they don't even fly to Tenerife from Blackpool for instance in the summer!
Despite it being peak UK holiday period, Tenerife is very quiet at the moment and the hotels, including very good ones like this are half empty. The reason....? In my opinion it is the lack of flight availability because the operatos, including Locos, have cut back far too much. Well over £300 return for flight only! Same applies to Alicante and the Costas at the moment. Jet2 are one of the culprits in being too defensive - they don't even fly to Tenerife from Blackpool for instance in the summer!
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Tenerife is a long way from LBA or Blackpool and the fuel cost alone must be over £50 a head one way, plus you'll only get one rotation out of the aircraft, on board sales will be less per mile than say flying to PMI or ALC so £300 returns not a bad deal in peak season.
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Heard 2 NGs are coming in Nov. Not heard the rumour for 757 exiting stage left though. Wouldn't surprise me, however.
Bear in mind that the 2 NGs arriving soon did the rounds this time last year.
Bear in mind that the 2 NGs arriving soon did the rounds this time last year.
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As for GSM not being in the running for a merger with jet2 i would have thought the two would be better suited than Jet & bmibaby. They both offer full package holidays. Plus Flyglobespan own 3 763's and has 2 787's on order and jet2 have many 752's for them to operate a varied long haul programme though jet2 would have to catch up on GSM with having a full fleet of 737NG'S as globespan are disposing of there 2 733's. Plus they would gain the hotels and appartments that The globespan Group owns in France and spain. If you don't agreee then im sure Globespan can keep going at alone aswell as jet2.
If jet2 was to sell the chinese 752's im sure GSM would be interested in one becuase there wanting to expand UK - Toronto route.
If jet2 was to sell the chinese 752's im sure GSM would be interested in one becuase there wanting to expand UK - Toronto route.
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"Prestonian", TFS is classed as a winter destination, which is why you will find half empty hotels at this time of the year.
It is a case of why fly 4 hours plus for the sun if you can fly 2-3 hours for the sun around the med.
In the winter you have to fly 4 plus hours to be sure of warm/hot sunny weather.
It is a case of why fly 4 hours plus for the sun if you can fly 2-3 hours for the sun around the med.
In the winter you have to fly 4 plus hours to be sure of warm/hot sunny weather.
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Yes, Tenerife is a winter destination but it is still busy in summer! We stayed at the Hotel Vulcano last summer and was roughly 80% full. It wont have cost Jet2 as much as you think to put them up in the hotel, as baring in mind Jet2Holidays will have pre bought hotel rooms and they evidently must have had a fair bit of availability in the Vulcano to put up pax there.
Talking of the fleet, it would make so much sense to get rid of a few 757's, lets face it the cabins are not the freshest. I can just see it now ... PM sells off 6 of the 757's and buys some used 737-800's from Ryanair. I would have thought that Jet2 could charge what the hell they like for a 757 as as far as i'm aware the likes of fedex, DHL etc are desperate for 757's? Gradually phase out the 757's, get a few more 737-800's and then get some ex EZY 737-700's in to get rid of the old -300's. One fleet type so lots of synergies with crew/MX etc..... maybe someone should wake me up from my dream now ...
Talking of the fleet, it would make so much sense to get rid of a few 757's, lets face it the cabins are not the freshest. I can just see it now ... PM sells off 6 of the 757's and buys some used 737-800's from Ryanair. I would have thought that Jet2 could charge what the hell they like for a 757 as as far as i'm aware the likes of fedex, DHL etc are desperate for 757's? Gradually phase out the 757's, get a few more 737-800's and then get some ex EZY 737-700's in to get rid of the old -300's. One fleet type so lots of synergies with crew/MX etc..... maybe someone should wake me up from my dream now ...
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Is there much of a long-haul expansion planned for Jet2 anymore?
There were so many rumors of jet2 getting 767's but nothing has ever appeared.
There was a rumor of Flyglobespan leasing jet2 one of there 767's but i guess that was just talk.
There were so many rumors of jet2 getting 767's but nothing has ever appeared.
There was a rumor of Flyglobespan leasing jet2 one of there 767's but i guess that was just talk.