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Have travelled MAN-TLV recently and despite being half term the flights had a about 180 passengers compared to approx 235 capacity
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The flights to TLV do apparently do well but it doesn't mean they are going out jam packed all the time. Consequently the 738 is probably a better fit, a fit that wasn't possible previously when the 752 was needed to carry out the mission in terms of range.
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the 737-800 has the same cabin arrangement as the 757 and the same seats.
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True the "cabin arrangement" is the same on the B752 as on the B738, but the number of seats are 186 on the B738 and 229 on the B752. Overall a difference of 43 passengers of carrying capacity, which means that a B752 can transport more than 23% more passengers than a B738.
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Minor correction, the 738 carries 189 pax, and some of the 752's carry 232 pax, most carry 229.
In an earlier post comparing the B752 and the B738NG, it was said that:
the NG does 90% of the same job for 66% of the cost
If anyone has any facts or figures that would help to clarify the above, perhaps they would kindly post them.
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I can't think of a single route that the 757 does that the 738 cannot do other than the odd Xmas USA special or ad hoc MOD charter the 757 needs to be full to make any sense or money against the 738 and this is at a time when apart from half term weekends even the 733 are far from full. It looks like the second one will be Manchester bound as well for crewing reasons
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I can't think of a single route that the 757 does that the 738 cannot do other than the odd Xmas USA special or ad hoc MOD charter the 757 needs to be full to make any sense or money against the 738 and this is at a time when apart from half term weekends even the 733 are far from full. It looks like the second one will be Manchester bound as well for crewing reasons
JFK - MAN, DUB
PHL - DUB
That's just UK/ROI from the top of my head for 3 of the US carriers.
There will be dozens more across the globe.
Also - if you can get a fully loaded 737 to Berlin from NYC - do get in touch with Boeing. They'll want to hear from you...
If you're on about European/medium haul routes, you may be right. I don't know how a 737 would do from Egypt/Cape Verde Islands to the UK in the height of summer though...
But do remember how LCCs work, certainly in LS's case. The fares start low and move upwards. Therefore the extra 46 seats may be (most likely) will be sold at far above average/break even fares therefore contributing to offsetting the extra costs involved with a 757 as opposed to a 737.
Just my opinion anyway.
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The 800 when delivered was fitted with 186 seats, since then it has had the new acro seats fitted.
All 189 of them, that is from the company paperwork and not a spotters forum.
The 738 will do Egypt back to the UK (any airport from my experience of operating it to Scotland.) even in the height of summer, reasonably comfortably, the limiting factor is almost always the take of performance. But in the many times I have done it, I have never seen a tech stop or a reduction in payload. And that is with a full airplane and an outside temperature of +40 degrees centigrade.
The 800 when delivered was fitted with 186 seats, since then it has had the new acro seats fitted.
All 189 of them, that is from the company paperwork and not a spotters forum.
The 738 will do Egypt back to the UK (any airport from my experience of operating it to Scotland.) even in the height of summer, reasonably comfortably, the limiting factor is almost always the take of performance. But in the many times I have done it, I have never seen a tech stop or a reduction in payload. And that is with a full airplane and an outside temperature of +40 degrees centigrade.
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Another correction for you.... G-LSAK is also fitted with 229 seats and not 216. I also believe the max config of the 757-200 is 238. Jet2 had the a/c now fitted with 232 configured with 238 seats up until about 2 year ago.
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I suspect that when Jet2 got into buying the 757 they had longer routes in mind APD in the UK has distorted the mid/long haul travel Market Sky new reported today that UK passengers are taxed three times more heavily than the nearest Europe country ( Germany ) in respect of APD it quoted a family of 4 to Florida paying £240 in APD compared with just £11 if flying from Dublin.
Unfortunately the rules on connecting flights preclude exemption from APD by joining a flight in Dublin from the UK if booked as a through ticket.
I was very surprised that Jet2 have not picked up some of the MOD sponsored flights from Tunisia to Egypt. Reports suggest that TCX from EMA, Titan from LGW and air Aitialia have got £4m for round the clock flight to clear exiled Libyan workers, hope that comes out of the overseas aid budget
MUFC
I agree with you on the sale of the extra seats, but you have to fill them!
Unfortunately the rules on connecting flights preclude exemption from APD by joining a flight in Dublin from the UK if booked as a through ticket.
I was very surprised that Jet2 have not picked up some of the MOD sponsored flights from Tunisia to Egypt. Reports suggest that TCX from EMA, Titan from LGW and air Aitialia have got £4m for round the clock flight to clear exiled Libyan workers, hope that comes out of the overseas aid budget
MUFC
I agree with you on the sale of the extra seats, but you have to fill them!
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Does jet2 have any spare B757 and fill the gap at BFS for flights to Toronto and possibly to Orlando. There is a huge market there that is lying untouched now for a few years people are having to travel to Dub and mainland airports if the B757 and the B737-800 could do these flights why could an airline like jet2 that have these aircraft not do these routes.
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Does jet2 have any spare B757 and fill the gap at BFS for flights to Toronto and possibly to Orlando. There is a huge market there that is lying untouched now for a few years people are having to travel to Dub and mainland airports if the B757 and the B737-800 could do these flights why could an airline like jet2 that have these aircraft not do these routes.
I don't think it's as big as you think...
I'd like to think in 3-5 years time LS would be able to move into the long haul holiday market with such destinations as SFB and YYZ.
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INKJET: 10,000 extra pax are travelling from Harwich to the Hook to avoid APD. Jet2 have " no appetite" to fly to North Africa, I tried to charter a 757 from them in the early days of the Eygptian troubles. We are now using our friends from the former Soviet bloc with great success . 4 Mill...that will just about pay for a new refurb of Titans' offices