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Old 20th May 2010, 19:42
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thanks TSR 2
I guess 2010 is heading for 2002's movements with 2004's pax but with 2007's overheads

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Old 20th May 2010, 21:24
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Years ago I remember Eastern European Ilyushins swamping Inverness in support of the fishing fleets. Are they no more?
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Old 20th Sep 2010, 19:49
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maybe some good news for inv

just hope they get the times right this time

unlike air uk and scotairways who have both tried in the past

BBC News - Flybe plans to launch Inverness to Amsterdam flights
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Old 20th Sep 2010, 22:08
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It said it was close to concluding a deal with possible partners in the Netherlands for the venture
I would hazard a guess that its KLM, giving the fact that flybe are partnering with AF on other routes.
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Old 29th Nov 2010, 12:49
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I was at the airport this morning attempting to get to LGW. Imagine my surprise when I'm told we aren't going because the Handling Agents don't have any de-ice fluid left!!!! Unbelievable. Last year there were three companies doing de-icing and this didn't happen. Now it's only Dalcross Handling. An entire day's flying just about wiped out because of this. Jokers
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Old 29th Nov 2010, 13:25
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nothing on the NOTAMs about the de-icing problem
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Old 15th Nov 2013, 18:22
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If the Flybe base is to close, does the Amsterdam route have a future ? Would KLM perhaps put an F70 on the route ? Am wondering if KLM might switch the F70 used for Durham Tees Valley with all that airport's issues to an Inverness route...
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Old 15th Nov 2013, 21:44
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From the local rag


"Flybe remains fully committed to delivering unrivalled regional connectivity throughout the UK to and from Inverness and can reassure its passengers that they can continue to book with confidence."



Flybe to shut Inverness base and axe 35 jobs | Highland News | News
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Old 15th Nov 2013, 22:08
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Dont think the routes will be hit so much other than the already known closure of LGW services.

MAN route can continue on a MAN based a/c and the AMS could continue either on the back of the BHD or BHX?

BHD-INV-AMS-INV-BHD
BHX-INV-AMS-INV-BHX
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Old 15th Nov 2013, 22:21
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scr1 - not quite sure what your opinion is and have no wish to offend, but the canned statement you're quoting from Flybe is pretty meaningless - the only thing it confirms for people in Inverness is that the airline will maintain at least one UK route to Inverness for the time being and that anyone whose flight is cancelled will get a refund.

Thanks however for posting the link - the bit about public funding for Amsterdam expiring in Sept 2014 was very interesting
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Old 15th Nov 2013, 23:07
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davidjohnson6 - please quote the text that states 1 UK route will run and that anyone whose flight is cancelled will get a refund. I think I missed it as I cannot see it

Flybe operate from INV to LGW (due to end Mar14), AMS (poss review Sep14), BHX, MAN & BHD along with a winter link to GVA and summer link to JER
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Old 15th Nov 2013, 23:19
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Cloud1 - I accept that I'm making an inference rather than quoting strictly. My point is that Flybe's attempt at reassurance is a bit of smoke and mirrors and nothing more than a standard PR exercise. It *seems* something you can rely on, but when you try to think about precise meaning, and what would stand up in any kind of court or which could not be otherwise explained away, there's actually very little of hard substance. Any company can always say at a future date that based on recent events, they had to change their pland.

Regional connectivity can be delivered by a direct route to one location in the UK (eg Manchester hub) followed by a change onto somewhere else. Not great for passengers, but as long as *at least* one route to Inverness is maintained, strictly speaking it counts as regional connectivity. You can be confident in making a booking... because if we cancel we'll give you your money back so you can't claim damages under the law of tort.

Cynical perhaps, but given Mrs Johnson is a lawyer, I've heard all too often how what appears to be reassuring, when push comes to shove, is actually meaningless. People who write press releases and who work in PR are usually very good at wording what they say in a precise way, so as to sounds warm and fuzzy, while actually formally committing very little.
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Old 15th Nov 2013, 23:57
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Any company can always say at a future date that based on recent events, they had to change their pland.
Well yes, thats why terms and conditions are in place. These often say that the company can change their schedules.

Regional connectivity can be delivered by a direct route to one location in the UK (eg Manchester hub) followed by a change onto somewhere else. Not great for passengers, but as long as *at least* one route to Inverness is maintained, strictly speaking it counts as regional connectivity.
Fair enough, lets hope that other carriers flock to INV then to pick up these routes if this turns out to be the case.

Cynical perhaps, but given Mrs Johnson is a lawyer, I've heard all too often how what appears to be reassuring, when push comes to shove, is actually meaningless
the only thing it confirms for people in Inverness is that the airline will maintain at least one UK route to Inverness for the time being and that anyone whose flight is cancelled will get a refund.
Maybe you are overthinking things then......speculating on something that has not yet happened. As far as we know so far is that the routes will continue as normal apart from LGW.

I guess, if one wanted to be picky, could Flybe not press legal action against you for making a statement which could damage their reputation if potential passengers were put off booking after reading your comments. Suggesting that booking tomorrow for a flight in April to BHX for example will get cancelled and refunded nearer the date of travel....? Does Mrs Johnson deal with many cases of slander?
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Old 16th Nov 2013, 00:53
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So who will be offering a service to us rebellious Celtic types wishing to see her maj in the great city of the south post Christmas 2013?

And will it be direct or encompass fifty interconnections...
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Old 16th Nov 2013, 06:08
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Simple answer is nobody outside BE knows - and a fair chance they don't know yet as they're still working on the plans.

Current statements can be interpreted in both the way Cloud1 and DJ6 state - is your glass half full or half empty?
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Old 16th Nov 2013, 07:31
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DavidJohnson6 I am aware that it is just PR and gives no concrete guaranties, Just hope that we will be left with something at decent times. Personally I think that MAN and AMS will survive not so sure about BHX and BHD.
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Ive just noticed a link on another website suggesting that aid to small regional airfields is to be phased out, anyone heard of this before?
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/21/bu...orts.html?_r=1

re the Flybe reorganisation, what is the effect on Inverness ? Is it business as usual except for the Gatwick?

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Old 22nd Feb 2014, 17:39
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All Flybe flights are staying apart from the LGW, to be operated by non based A/C. (the LGW has been picked up by EZY)

Of The HIAL airports INV and LSI break even i believe. The rest lose large amounts of money. The subsidy is payed to HIAL not the airport. Of the lose making airports apart from Dundee could easily be argued as requiring a subside as their is no way the island airports could operate with out it and they are required. I doubt the island airports are the type this is aimed at and their will be some loop hole to allow it to continue.

(sorry for the disjointed reply had a few drams)
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Old 23rd Feb 2014, 07:03
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No need to apologise for a few drams...

From the link bad bear provided that article states regional airports
with fewer than 700K pax per year are exempt. INV being the
busiest airport in the HIAL portfolio only manages I think less
than 400K per annum, and with island airports being lifelines
I doubt there will be any change for a long time.

Some of the places Ryanair operate to is another matter.
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Old 23rd Feb 2014, 09:54
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I believe INV will retain based aircraft and it will either 1 dash throughout summer or a mix of Dash and E175 - this will be used to serve an early morning rotation to MAN

INV-MAN-INV-AMS-INV-MAN-INV

I believe this is the intention but all subject to change I guess. To be honest this pattern means the aircraft is on the ground in INV for up to 2 hours so they cod have squeezed the BHD on this line as well

At present the BHD and BHX operate on other based aircraft. At weekends JER operates on the INV based unit
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