BA Cityflyer

[RJ100]

V_2

I say that based upon friends who have flown with MPL candidates at other airlines who spend more time baby sitting and recovering from poorly executed approaches and landings. Most of those complained that it's like flying single pilot. I feel that this type of flying is best left to trainers rather than line pilots.
I'm sure that you might get some exceptional candidates, but most from what I've been told require rather an unusual amount of supervision.

[RJ100]

During a recent positioning flight on BA I had an interesting chat. Seems the new GM will shortly be announced and that the rumour is our GMFO has already planned a move to another airline with a Manchester base.

Gotta love all the rumours going around Mainline about us.

[Fokkeriaan]

Speaking about rumours....:

Rumours are bouncing around that BA CityFlyer are looking at the F50 network with the end result seeing VLM Airlines "reborn" as an airline. The former network to ANR/RTM/MAN will be back to VLM service qaulity and level, but will fly with joint BA/VG flight numbers.

Found here: Air France-KLM nears decision on CityJet | ATWOnline

Rgds,

[BAladdy]

BACF would only be interested in WX for the slots.

[BAladdy]

S13 Weekend Charters

Looks like it is going to be another busy Summer season for weekend charters.

BACF will operate charter flights from ABZ, EDI and GLA using there 98 seater E190's . They will operate the flights on behalf of Barrhead Travel, Thomas Cook Holidays and Thomson Holidays. Below is a list of the flights that will be operated. Flights operating on behalf of Barrhead travel are in Red, Thomas Cook in Blue and Thomson are shown in black.

Aberdeen to/from

Barcelona

BA4507C ABZ 07:00 - 10:50 BCN / BA4508C BCN 11:50 - 13:45 ABZ 7 26MAY - 06OCT

Mahon

BA4505C ABZ 15:30 - 19:40 MAH / BA4506C MAH 20:40 - 22:50 ABZ 6 01JUN - 28SEP

Malaga

BA4503C ABZ 06:40 - 11:10 AGP / BA4504C AGP 12:00 - 14:30 ABZ 6 25MAY - 10OCT

Reus

BA4501C ABZ 06:00 - 09:55 REU / BA4502C REU 10:45 - 12:35 ABZ 5 31MAY - 27SEP

Edinburgh to/from

Faro

BA4519C EDI 14:05 - 17:25 FAO / BA4520C FAO 18:25 - 21:45 EDI 6 01JUN - 14SEP

Ibiza

BA4511C EDI 06:10 - 10:10 IBZ / BA4512C IBZ 11:00 - 13:00 EDI 6 01JUN - 14SEP

Palma

BA4537C EDI 07:00 - 11:00 PMI / BA4538C PMI 12:00 - 14:05 EDI 6 09JUN - 15SEP

Glasgow to/from

Alicante

BA4527C GLA 15:00 - 19:00 ALC / BA4528C ALC 20:00 - 22:05 GLA 6 11MAY - 21SEP
BA4529C GLA 15:45 - 19:45 ALC / BA4530C ALC 20:45 - 22:50 GLA 6 25MAY - 19OCT

Barcelona

BA4545C GLA 05:40 - 09:20 BCN / BA4546C BCN 10:10 - 11:55 GLA 7 26MAY - 20OCT

Faro

BA4539C GLA 13:15 - 16:35 FAO / BA4540C FAO 17:35 - 20:55 GLA 6 11MAY - 21SEP

Ibiza

BA4535C GLA 05:45 - 09:45 IBZ / BA4536C IBZ10:35 - 12:35 GLA 7 02JUN - 13OCT

Malaga

BA4525C GLA 06:40 - 00:00 AGP / BA4526C AGP 00:00 - 14:35 GLA 6 25MAY - 19OCT

Palma

BA4531C GLA 05:35 - 09:35 PMI / BA4532C PMI 10:35 - 12:40 GLA 7 26MAY - 20OCT
BA4515C GLA 06:00 - 09:55 PMI / BA4516C PMI 10:55 - 13:00 GLA 5 03MAY - 20SEP
BA4521C GLA 07:30 - 11:30 PMI / BA4522C PMI 12:20 - 14:25 GLA 6 25MAY - 19OCT
BA4517C GLA 14:45 - 18:40 PMI / BA4518C PMI 19:40 - 21:40 GLA 5 24MAY - 23AUG
BA4523C GLA 15:20 - 19:20 PMI / BA4524C PMI 20:15 - 22:20 GLA 6 25MAY - 19OCT

Reus

BA4533C GLA 06:40 - 10:20 REU / BA4534C REU11:10 - 12:50 GLA 7 05MAY - 13OCT

Venice

BA4543C GLA 06:50 - 10:25 VCE / BA4544C VCE 12:15 - 13:55 GLA 6 25MAY - 19OCT


The weekend charter flights to CAG and OLB from MAN that BACF operated last year will be be operated this year by BE.

Does anyone know if BACF plan to operate regular weekend charter services from any other airports this summer

[euromanxdude]

Past 2 years seen a BACF E190 operating a one off IOM-PMI for Thomas Cook during 1st weekend in June

[GayFriendly]

BACF Charters

I would be interested to know roughly how these are crewed. I assume crew have to fly up on a Fri then overnight Fri, Sat and Sun in EDI, GLA and ABZ respectively to operate these flights before heading back to LCY on Sun/Mon. Nice trips I would imagine for allowances and a change of scenery from LCY?

[Omnipresent]

Found here: Air France-KLM nears decision on CityJet | ATWOnline

Rgds,

July seems an awfully long time to decide between 2-3 bidders!

Sorry, but I just don't believe BA would buy CityJet. I think they've been quite clear they have no interest, and there's no reason to believe they're bluffing.

[LAX_LHR]

BACF will also be running some charters for TCX from MAN to IBZ.

There only seems to be a few dates in May, however.

[BAladdy]

I would be interested to know roughly how these are crewed. I assume crew have to fly up on a Fri then overnight Fri, Sat and Sun in EDI, GLA and ABZ respectively to operate these flights before heading back to LCY on Sun/Mon. Nice trips I would imagine for allowances and a change of scenery from LCY?

Would have thought the EDI and GLA charters will be operated by EDI based crew.

ABZ flights could be operated by EDI based crew who are positioned by road to and from EDI or LCY crews on a 3 or 4 day tour.

[RJ100]

BA Cityflyer to start LCY to Granada Spain.

The year-round service will launch on July 25.
Flights will operate on a 98-seat Embraer 190 jet four days a week with an
additional flight during the summer.

Flights:
M-W-F
LCY - Grenada 09:10 arrive 12:50
Grenada - LCY 13:35 arrive 15:15

Sunday
LCY - Grenada 15:20 arriving 19:00
Grenada - LCY 19:40 arriving 21:20

During the peak Summer weeks there will also be an
additional Thursday service.

Frequency to Malaga will also increase from 4 to 5 flights per week.
Flights to Barcelona from LCY will be suspended from this time.

[svw8700]

When will the LCY-BCN route be suspended?

[irishbcn]

That's a pity, I used the BCN route quite often but the timings really weren't the best for working in London.

[RJ100]

BCN will be suspended from when the new route starts in July until further notice.

[Omnipresent]

I'm a little surprised at some of the "sun" routes being dropped recently by BACF. I would have thought BCN would have been a better prospect than Granada.

[Red Four]

Granada is not offered from Luton, Southend & Stansted though!

[RJ100]

Omnipresent-
What other "Sun" routes have been dropped by BACF recently?

[wowzz]

I have to say that the new Granada route is surprising - are there enough pax in the LCY area who want to fly to a city that is 120km or so from the coast at Malaga?
It is not as if Granada is a financial centre requiring direct flights from the Square Mile.

[davidjohnson6]

Granada is difficult to reach, but makes the suburban middle classes rather orgasmic when they tell the neighbours they are going to Andaloothia for their summer holiday - even better to mention the Alhambra. Perhaps in the same vein as places like Mahon and Quimper ?
Ryanair did after all manage to run 4 routes to northern Europe - although this may well have included some marketing support payments from the Spanish public sector. I think even Monarch ran a Gatwick route.

I can see 2x per week doing well - unsure about 4x per week, even if BACF have a monopoly.

[compton3bravo]

Sorry David disagree Granada is not difficult to reach. Excellent dual carriageway to Malaga, Cordoba, Costa del Sol, etc and hardly any traffic and most of it paid by UK taxpayers including a very nice new road which bypasses Malaga City which in some places is five lanes wide on each carriageway! Also it is a ski destination in the winter - Sierra Nevada which should help. Saying down here - go skiing in the morning and if you are lucky with the weather sit on the beach and sunbathe in the afternoon! Back to aviation matters it does seem rather a strange choice and Monarch did try it for a while with no success but only time will tell but good luck to them.