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Old 4th Aug 2010, 21:42
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Why would there be a big exodus to the sand pit? Every company has got it's pro's and con's. Cptns have either specifically chosen not to go down that route, don't feel like (also) turning their families life upside down, are locals through and through or are new in the seat. And f/o's are gaining quality experience and might be looking at a command 'soon' with a good airline and a good type on their license.
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Old 5th Aug 2010, 02:04
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W10/11

Its just over 10 weeks to the start of the W10/11 timetable. Does anyone know if the timetable on BA.com is the final schedule or is there some ammendments on the way??

If it is correct then BACF will have a spare E190 on a Monday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday. With the a/c only operating LCY/BCN/LCY on a Tuesday. Also there seems to be a E170 on a Tuesday and Wednesday that arr from GLA at 09:25 and doesnt leave LCY until early evening.....

According to the timetable on BA.COM have noticed the following additional changes:

LCY-CPH

From start of W10/11 there will be no Saturday CPH-LCY sector. The W10/11 shows a CPH/LCY/CPH flight on a Sunday .

LCY-GLA

On Thursdays only there seems to be a new 19:55 flight ex GLA
On Fridays only two flights ex GLA departing GLA 07:55 and 16:15 showing.

LCY-EDI

Some strange flight departures.

Monday to Friday there seems to be 14:50 and 15:15 dep from LCY. Is there the demand for these two flights so close together. Could understand if they where later in the afternoon. Say from 16:30 to 18:00. The flights return from EDI at 16:40 and 17:00 with the next and last flight 18:50. Would make more sense to have the 17:00 depart at 17:45.
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Errrr. Maybe cos the pay (for a jet) is cr@p and people are fed up being away for about 15 nights a month??
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Nite Stops...

It is a touring airline at the end of the day....
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Are many of the FOs close to command time?

If some people do start to leave (whatever the reason) would there be sufficient experience to fill LHS slots or would DEC again be required?

(or indeed if the other 3 options are taken soon)

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I would say there would be sufficient people to fill the lhs when the time comes. In 6 to 12 months especially you'll end up with quite a number ready (just purely looking at hours) for command.

There might be a reason for the downtime for those two jets...

Strange that there is no Saturday CPH-LCY flight on there. I just had a look and we still show a saturday cpl-lcy service.

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Errrr. Maybe cos the pay (for a jet) is cr@p and people are fed up being away for about 15 nights a month??
The salary might not be great and there might be many night stops, yet not many Middle Eastern operators will give a narrowbody Airbus DEC to a skipper off an RJ/E-Jet, when there will be people out there that do have Boeing/Airbus time on type.

If the above is the case then you will probably earn the same as an F/O in the sandpit but go to the bottom of the seniority list and wait for another command. Not really worth it when viewed in that context! Also being away 15 nights from home is better than only getting home when you are on leave as is the case in the ex-pat world.
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Old 6th Aug 2010, 17:54
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"Also being away 15 nights from home is better than only getting home when you are on leave as is the case in the ex-pat world."

Comparing apples with oranges I see...

I think there will be an exodus, heard along the vine that several F/Os (into double figures) have requested copies of their training files, doesn't take a rocket scientist to work that one out. Fact is there is more money, better Ts and Cs and a better type rating out in the middle east, so it's obviously going to lure people in.

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Old 6th Aug 2010, 18:07
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Good good, for all those who are not happy at CF there are many people who would love your job...

I would love to fly an Embraer, get to live in London and do a touring roster... the sandpit has no appeal to me at all but each to his own.

Bring on the new aircraft and the exodus: is it just FOs rumoured to be considering an exit?

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Seems to me both seats are actively looking outside CF, We've heard nothing about more aircraft I'm afraid, thinking about it, they delayed G-LCYN until November, if you needed more aircraft why would you delay the final delivery?
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Last E190 delayed to get c/n700. Further news is that Iberia will start codesharing on the MAD and BCN flights.
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late arrival of E190 Palma flight again today into LCY...

the Sunday inbound Cityflyer E190 from Palma is becoming a frequent visitor between 22:00 and 22:30 into LCY - looks like its just going to get in before the 22:30 close again tonight !
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Old 8th Aug 2010, 22:02
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Unfortunately it's just the way the scheduele is that day. Part of the final delay initially occured on the very early GLA-AGP charter and it sort of grew worse thereafter. It got in 10 minutes before airport closure. Only almost 2 1/2hrs late...
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"Also being away 15 nights from home is better than only getting home when you are on leave as is the case in the ex-pat world."

Comparing apples with oranges I see...
It is only apples and oranges if one is willing to view their relocation in the context of it being long term.
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Old 9th Aug 2010, 07:03
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Originally Posted by DutchBird-757
Unfortunately it's just the way the schedule is that day. Part of the final delay initially occured on the very early GLA-AGP charter and it sort of grew worse thereafter. It got in 10 minutes before airport closure. Only almost 2 1/2hrs late...
At the present time, two round trips through Spanish airspace, domestic sectors as well, and ending the day into a rigidly curfewed airport is rather chancing it.
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My daughter was on the above flight,and although delayed,once she left the plane it took about 15min. to go through passport and pick her bag up and be outside.
So full marks to the ground crew at LCY.
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Old 9th Aug 2010, 08:55
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Originally Posted by jubilee
it took about 15min. to go through passport and pick her bag up and be outside.
So full marks to the ground crew at LCY.
That's actually quite a long time at LCY

I have done aircraft steps at Gate 2 to hand on a taxi door outside in less than 60 seconds (I actually stopwatched it). Admittedly that was domestic, so no immigration, and hand baggage only, but I do quite often walk with hardly a stop past the immigration team (who compared to elsewhere are not only more efficient but actually pleasant with it as well - what a refreshing change), pick up a bag, and be out in just a few minutes.

On one occasion I was travelling in parallel with a colleague from Munich, I saw him taxi out for Heathrow, eventually we departed for LCY, I phoned him from the aircraft right on engine shutdown on stand at LCY, he was in the immigration queue at Heathrow, I called him again later from the taxi speeding away from LCY, he was STILL in the immigration queue at Heathrow.
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WHBM.

Just to update my previous post,what my daughter said, was, that she was out in less than 15 minutes,more like 10.
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Old 17th Aug 2010, 11:29
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As expected;

LCY to Chambery with an E190 starting four times a week from 18th December until the end of March 2011.(MON/FRI/SAT/SUN)

Also LCY to GVA as per normal winter scheduele starting on 19th December with an E190 daily except SAT and double on SUN.

Expect more to follow...

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Old 18th Aug 2010, 15:50
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More routes?! Who's going to fly them? We're short of numbers as it is

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