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Old 7th Mar 2010, 06:53
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Refering to the Embraers as jungle jets, is because , Embraer's manufacturing facility was bulit from scratch ,literally in the jungle of Brazil and that is the reason they are called "Jungle Jets"
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Indeed "YJ" was delivered yesterday afternoon in EXT for pre-entry mods. ON the 10th the aircraft flies to MAN. (propably to show it off to the head office. )

On the 11th it heads to Cambridge for training and later that day it arrives at LCY at 1245z to go back to Cambriddge at 1315z.

What happens on the 13th is unknown. On the 14th it operates it's first commercial sectors, starting in EDI on the BA8703, 8712,8717 nightstopping in LCY.

So basically the standard 3 day pre entry mods done in EXT and then straight into promotion/training and entry into service. Not much time wasted to be honest. Maybe one day to cope with unexpeced delays (weather) or something.
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Old 7th Mar 2010, 10:04
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Was just wondering if a service from LCY to Belfast would ever be considered in the future? Previous services by Cityjet and Flybe to BHD were unsuccessful due to inappropriate timings and high fares. With the right timings and reasonable fares, it could work for both business and leisure passengers - just a thought!
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Old 7th Mar 2010, 11:30
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E190

BACF new E190 looks great, wish there were some MAN ops still!

Photos: Embraer ERJ-190-100LR 190LR Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net
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Old 7th Mar 2010, 12:44
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Only correction to it would be that it's not an 'LR' version but a modified 'STD' one. Now called the '190SR' due to obvious reasons.
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Was just wondering if a service from LCY to Belfast would ever be considered in the future? Previous services by Cityjet and Flybe to BHD were unsuccessful due to inappropriate timings and high fares. With the right timings and reasonable fares, it could work for both business and leisure passengers - just a thought!
You never know you might even see some true regional routes!!
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Old 7th Mar 2010, 16:33
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That picture is seriously cool, it looks the business.
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Old 10th Mar 2010, 11:58
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What are the "obvious reasons" for the 190s being 190SRs rather than 190LRs?
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Old 10th Mar 2010, 14:09
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I'm guessing Dutchbird is refering to the fact that the "STD" bid sounds a bit like sexually transmitted disease....
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Old 10th Mar 2010, 15:16
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"SR" = Short Runway, ie with steep approach capability? And, I'm guessing (shot in the dark, this), this model might coincidentally also be certified to a maximum of <100 seats (unlike the 114 seats of the standard model) to avoid any pesky scope clause issues?
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Old 10th Mar 2010, 15:30
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Pardon my ignorance chaps (and chappesses), but what is the Scope Clause you mention?
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Old 10th Mar 2010, 15:45
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It does sound like that come to think of it.

It's the E190SR cause BA wanted a 'Short Runway' version. Embraer had three E190 versions; STD, LR and AR. And now thus the SR, specifically adapted to operate out of LCY. (or other short runways) Plus it's only got <100 seats, much less than the certified 114 seats.

The scope clause in a nutsthell is BA preventing anyone from flying an aircraft with >100 seats unless they are operated by BA mainline. The RJ100's were excempt from the scope clause but it meant that any new aircraft for BACF had to be less than 100 seats. There's more to it but this is why the E190 has got <100 seats.
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Old 10th Mar 2010, 16:36
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I believe there's an Embraer at MAN today, which is nightstopping. Is this in preparation for the summer schedule, or being maintained/painted?
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Old 10th Mar 2010, 18:20
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I think it's there to show the new big toy to the management in Didsbury. It's heading to Cambridge tomorrow to do some training.
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Old 11th Mar 2010, 07:36
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Not much point - if they don't like they cannot hand it back!
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Old 11th Mar 2010, 15:58
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Ba Cf Fleet

Could the following be confirmed/altered as necessary please

SEATING CONFIGS

rj 85 - 85
rj 100 - 100
emb 170 - 70
emb 190 - 98
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Old 11th Mar 2010, 16:15
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rj 85 - 87
rj 100 - 110
emb 170 - 76
emb 190 - 98
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configs

many thanks
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Old 13th Mar 2010, 10:38
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190 seat pitch

Flew the 190 LCY-EDI yesterday on the BA 8706 which I think was its first flight - terrific aircraft, noticeably better legroom (33in pitch?) than 170... A real step up for BACF
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34" pitch actually compared to 31" on the E170. And indeed the 8706 yesterday was it's first commercial flight.
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