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Old 28th Apr 2009, 17:51
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If it is written off I wouldn't have thought that LCY would be too keen on a contract scrap merchant coming in to the apron, so presumably it would be the barge to somewhere. Would the wings have to come off to get it out through the lock into the Thames ?
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Old 28th Apr 2009, 21:43
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Discussions still ongoing about AR.
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Old 29th Apr 2009, 22:01
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When it comes to replacement for tech aircraft, is FLI the new FLT?
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Old 5th May 2009, 10:36
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@ egnxema.
Looking at the BA website, AMS is down to three frequencies a day. BA8752/3 have been axed. Don't know why and for how long.

AMS is a really good performer. So would this have something to do with creating a spare aircraft at times?
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Old 5th May 2009, 12:26
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Ams/lcy

On BA website it shows they have only withdrawn the BA8452/3 on the 5th, 6th, 12th, 13th, 19th, 20th, 25th (Bank Holiday), 26th and 27th May and back to normal in June

Basically BA8452/3 operates days 1,4 and 5 with the exception of the bank holiday on the 25th.
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Old 5th May 2009, 16:46
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Just the two random dates (12/19) I picked to confirm the story. Well, now wondering if it's only this month or the rest of the season?
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Old 9th May 2009, 16:34
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Stand-by aircraft

I see that Atlantic Airways now have a RJ85 based at Southend on stand-by for Cityflyer. Has the Titan contract now finished ?
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Old 25th May 2009, 20:16
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From BBC News

25 jobs to go

BBC NEWS | Scotland | Edinburgh, East and Fife | BA jobs go after plane write-off
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Old 25th May 2009, 23:15
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Interesting article - sounds like this was the "only" option on the table and "regrettably" BA has been left with no choice in the matter......

I am a big BA supporter but please - there really isnt another RJ/BAE parked up somewhere in the world not being used

I know there is slightly more to it than my over simplification of the issue but it reads as though there was only one option!
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Old 26th May 2009, 09:00
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There are plenty of RJs around - one of the more plentiful types available at present. For example, there are the last of the formr Northwest fleet still available.

But with the new fleet of Embraers on the way by the end of the year it is an opportunity to avoid the costs associated with bringing another aircraft in, bringing the cabin up to BA standards, etc. BA have a contract with Titan for a standby aircraft as required, if they don't want to take that up in the medium term they are using this as an excuse for cost-cutting. A competent airline financial planning team (one thing that BA do possess) will have a provision for costs for exceptional events. Unfortunately it seems that budget has been raided to support the corporate bottom line. Whether this would have happened if the LCY operation had been part of Mainline instead of Cityflyer is a topic for discussion.

If only the competition on LCY-Edinburgh were still Scot Airways with their excellent cabin service they would have lost more. Unfortunately that has gone, in favour of the Air France (alias Cityjet) corporate approach which is not nearly as good.
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Old 26th May 2009, 14:15
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AirFrance is now operating the Scot Airways Edinburgh Service.

The city flyer decision to reduce the LCY - EDI service due to loss of an aircraft is a lame excuse. There are plenty of wetlease A/C available to repalce the damaged A/C ( now allegedly written off - as repairs cannot be completed within period of Lease) but I suspect BA want to reduce capacity before bringing in EMB190 in the autumn.

Whilst I accept it is a genuine excuse I do feel it is a little bit convenient and pehaps if BA were being honest they could have just given economic reasons for reducing service and making staff redundant. BA and honest are not two words that always sit well together.
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Old 26th May 2009, 20:26
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Air France carry more passengers than Scot Airways did, so surely this means they are more competition not less?

The cost of wet lease is huge, as would the refurb of the old Northwest RJ85's full of sand in the desert!

EDILON market is down loads, and this effects LCY pretty badly with the finance industry in so much trouble.
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Old 26th May 2009, 21:12
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EDILON market is down loads
...I'll excuse the pun , but you're quite correct:

Jan 2007 29373pax
Jan 2008 22051pax

- 25%

Feb 2007 28972pax
Feb 2008 20772pax

-28%
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Old 26th May 2009, 21:13
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I was at Exeter Airport on Friday and there are a number of Avro RJ/BAe 146 sitting there in storage along with a number of Embraer RJs.
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Old 2nd Jun 2009, 11:30
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First RJ100 to 'retire' will be 'AW' within a fortnight!
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Old 2nd Jun 2009, 11:46
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Having already lost ' AR and Flightline, why is this? Replacements are a bit away yet (!) End of lease and expensive to re-sign?
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First RJ100 to 'retire' will be 'AW' within a fortnight!
'AW' WFU 29 May, to Exeter 30 May
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As you rightly state Cityflyer are already three aircraft down on the operational fleet of last December, and AW has also now left. It ferried to Exeter last Saturday for hand-back, and AX is due to follow next month with all this quite a few months ahead of the replacement Emb's coming on-line.
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Old 2nd Jun 2009, 13:38
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We'll propably end up with one sole remaining RJ just before the first E-jet arrives...
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Old 2nd Jun 2009, 14:04
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Is business that bad or is it good but with no yield?
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