BA Cityflyer

[richardwpprn]

From the schedules it appears the aircraft and crew will sort of be based at Florence, Ibiza Malaga and Palma de Mallorca for the weekend to operate these routes.

Interesting that AGP and FLR continue to the end of the summer timetable in October, it'll be interesting to see what happens for the winter timetable.

BA Source has a useful summary http://thebasource.com/ba-cityflyer-...turday-series/

'All services will operate as inbound returns from the non-UK airports to the following schedules:

BA7016 Florence 1110 – Bristol 1225 Saturdays
BA7017 Bristol 1310 – Florence 1625 Saturdays
BA7024 Florence 1710 – Birmingham 1835 Saturdays
BA7025 Birmingham 1920 – Florence 2240 Saturdays

BA7018 Ibiza 1310 – Bristol 1440 Saturdays
BA7019 Bristol 1525 – Ibiza 1850 Saturdays
BA7026 Ibiza 1940 – Birmingham 2125 Saurdays
BA7027 Birmingham 2210 – Ibiza 0145+1 Saturdays.

BA7020 Malaga 1330 – Bristol 1515 Saturdays
BA7021 Bristol 1600 – Malaga 1940 Saturdays
BA7030 Malaga 2025 – Birmingham 2220 Saturdays
BA7031 Birmingham 2305 – Malaga 0255+1 Saturdays

BA7022 Palma 1415 – Bristol 1545 Saturdays
BA7023 Bristol 1630 – Palma 1955 Saturdays
BA7028 Palma 2040 – Birmingham 2215 Saturdays
BA7029 Birmingham 2300 – Palma 0230+1 Saturdays.'

[richardwpprn]

Originally Posted by richardwpprn

Are there some high end leisure airports in Europe where an A319 can't go but E190SR can?

La Gomera GMZ has a runway length of 1500m, not sure if it's too far from LCY nor high end enough?

[davidjohnson6]

La Gomera manages 2 prop flights per day to Tenerife North airport. There are currently no flights either to other Canary Islands nor to the Spanish mainland. The main tourist pull is for walking holidays - I think the main non-Spanish country market for this is Germany. Talking about flights to the UK is somewhat theoretical

[Flightrider]

Disagree ref GMZ being exclusively targeted for the German market. The island's infrastructure and economy is heavily tied to Fred Olsen and together with its developments, there is also a reasonably big UK set-up there by Holiday Property Bond, which will generate 300-400 travellers ex UK each week in all.

[richardwpprn]

Would refuelling at GMZ be expensive?

[toledoashley]

I think Astraeus tried flights to Gomera on their 73G for one or two seasons. Similar sort of profile as La Palma - and that manages 4 flights per week from London, so there must be a market.

[AirLCY]

Its probably too far from LCY otherwise wouldn't they fly LCYTFS etc? Wonder if it could work from STN?

[davidjohnson6]

La Palma has 2200m of runway while La Gomera has just 1500m - this makes routes to La Palma with a 150+ seat jet from northern Europe much more economically viable

La Gomera really is a lovely place - and I'd happily go there tomorrow. I just think that if IAG were going to open a new route from La Gomera outside the Canary Islands, somewhere like Madrid is going to be much higher up in the priority list

[richardwpprn]

Originally Posted by AirLCY

Its probably too far from LCY otherwise wouldn't they fly LCYTFS etc? Wonder if it could work from STN?

They did TCI-LCY when they were delivered from Embraer.

[jijpc]

I think I am right when I say that they were initially delivered to Exeter or Manchester for pre entry mods rather than direct to LCY.

It is also worth noting that they would not have been full of passengers and freight on delivery. I suspect that with a full load they would not be able to carry enough fuel off the runway at LCY to undertake a flight of this length.

[Cloud1]

How do the BACF E190s fair against the BE E195s? I only ask because Flybe operate BHX-PVK (Preveza, Greece) in the summer which must be a reasonable sector. Not sure how it compares to a TFS sector though.

[cornishsimon]

Look at the runways at BHX and LCY.

cs

[richardwpprn]

LCY-JTR is the current longest, is that about the maximum range?

[AirLCY]

Probably the longest from LCY, but E190's can do more than that from a long runway, Air Canada have/had some 5-6 hour sectors

[Cloud1]

Originally Posted by cornishsimon

Look at the runways at BHX and LCY.

cs

Let's apply a little common sense, I wasn't comparing BHX and LCY. It had been mentioned STN-TFS so a reasonably decent comparison to the likes of BHX-PVK I would have thought.

[BAladdy]

Does anyone know if BACF have dropped there planned weekly LCY-MAN service?. It's just that the flights are not available to book.

BACF are also adding a weekly DUB-IBZ service. Flights are currently showing as operating as follows:

BA2349 DUB 22:25 IBZ 02:20 E90 5
BA2348 IBZ 09:00 IBZ 10:55 E90 7

[LAX_LHR]

The LCY-MAN flights are bookable from 21st Feb as per the press release. One flight LCY-MAN but 2 flights MAN-LCY. Also 2 more routes expected to fill out the 2nd E190 based at MAN Sat/Sun.

MAN-LCY:

BA9797 MAN 1320 LCY 1420
BA9785 MAN 1955 LCY 2055
Sun

LCY-MAN:

BA9784 LCY 1945 MAN 2045
Thu

Hope that helps.

[BA318]

BA are launching LCY-LIN and STN-LIN



Twice daily from LCY and twice a week from STN.


British Airways - LAUNCH OF MILAN FLIGHTS FROM TWO LONDON AIRPORTS

[ATNotts]

Is this expansion of services into "the regions", albeit at the moment only a good way of increasing weekend fleet utilisation, perhaps a toe in the water towards diversification away from over concentration on LCY, should the Brexit negotiations go badly, and demand for services between LCY and the principal financial centres fall as a result?

Perhaps moving forward we could see a return to some thicker routes from the likes of MAN, BHX and BRS - I'm thinking of destinations such as PAR / FRA / MIL for example using the E170. Could shake up FlyBe in their own backyard if they did.

[virginblue]

As LCY most likely will be the hardest hit British/English airport as a result of Brexit, it is probably a good idea for BACF to refocus and shift some capacity from business routes to (high end) leisure routes at LCY and in general do more leisure oriented flying away from LCY. As they cater for the higher end of the market, their customer base will be less affected by the rising costs of holidays abroad, whereas business travel by the same customers will be somewhat reduced with the UK economy focusing more on overseas links and less so on the continent. Will be very interesting to see how pax numbers at LCY develop in this new political world.