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BA's slot perecentage at LHR is, I believe, a lot less than the slot percentages for rival airlines at their hubs.
Regarding the JFK link, it's just a pity that now that a potential BA/AA joint venture is more likely to be given the go-ahead, they drop a route which could have benefited from closer co-operation.
Regarding the JFK link, it's just a pity that now that a potential BA/AA joint venture is more likely to be given the go-ahead, they drop a route which could have benefited from closer co-operation.
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I may be totally wrong but I think those hoardings are referring to the whole T1 development when it says complete by Spring 2009 ie - the brand new airside shopping concourse. The new security area opens on Monday but the new extended airside area will remain the same for this summer, with a few exceptions. However by next Spring, it will have been transformed with brand new shops, cafes, bars and restaurants. I'm sure that's what the completion date is on the hoardings. I had heard somewhere that the new shops in T1 Arrivals will be open by June but that may well have changed. It's been a good few months since I've seen the plans.
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Living by a regional airport
I put this on a T5 thread but it is just as relevant here.
I am based in Manchester and travel with one of the three alliances on a weekly basis at least. I am writing this because as I got T5'ed last night after several incident free (but at times comedy) trips through BAA's new greenhouse. I got stuck in an automated check-in nightmare and missed the last flight. It was a pain but BA put me on a BMI alternative without any drama. I was in Paris recently and my flight went tech. Air France found another plane and we got in 90 minutes late - a great performance.
I have a list of delays, cancellations and nightmares (Moscow once took 24 hours with KLM via AMS and CDG) for all the carriers. My conclusion - living in a region sucks and this will get worse as MAN goes loco.
I am based in Manchester and travel with one of the three alliances on a weekly basis at least. I am writing this because as I got T5'ed last night after several incident free (but at times comedy) trips through BAA's new greenhouse. I got stuck in an automated check-in nightmare and missed the last flight. It was a pain but BA put me on a BMI alternative without any drama. I was in Paris recently and my flight went tech. Air France found another plane and we got in 90 minutes late - a great performance.
I have a list of delays, cancellations and nightmares (Moscow once took 24 hours with KLM via AMS and CDG) for all the carriers. My conclusion - living in a region sucks and this will get worse as MAN goes loco.
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does the ryanair expansion at MAN define the future? MAN as a low cost base,if so maybe the multi storey car park at liverpools john lennon will be pretty empty.many of liverpools punters hail from the manchester catchment area and there is only so much business to go around.a comprehensive ryanair route scedule from manchester will devastate the scouse operation,that is if muirhead and his cronies offer a cheap enough deal to encourage the expansion.
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EGCC Airport without Power
Just received the following regarding EGCC Manchester: -
2ND POWER OUTAGE AT MAN
TERMINAL ONE AND THREE NO POWER WHATSOEVER
TERMINAL TWO - EMERGENCY POWER ONLY
-NO CHECK IN AVAL
-NO AIRBRIDGES AVAL
SOME PHONES OUT OF USE
SOME RUNWAY AND TAXIWAY LIGHTS UNSERVISABLE
TOWER HAS LOST 1 RADAR.
Lets hope that it can be fixed prior to daylight.
2ND POWER OUTAGE AT MAN
TERMINAL ONE AND THREE NO POWER WHATSOEVER
TERMINAL TWO - EMERGENCY POWER ONLY
-NO CHECK IN AVAL
-NO AIRBRIDGES AVAL
SOME PHONES OUT OF USE
SOME RUNWAY AND TAXIWAY LIGHTS UNSERVISABLE
TOWER HAS LOST 1 RADAR.
Lets hope that it can be fixed prior to daylight.
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Manchester Evening News: "...a flood in a plant room in one of the airport’s office buildings...".
That'll teach 'em to go green. Wonder what they were growing hydroponically...?
That'll teach 'em to go green. Wonder what they were growing hydroponically...?
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2nd Power Outage At Man ..... Update
Terminal One And Three:
Some Power In Certain Areas Airside
Terminal Two:
Most Systems Working. Some Problems With Bag Belts
Fuel Farm:
No Fuel Aval From Fuel Farm To Whole Airport
Terminal One And Three:
Some Power In Certain Areas Airside
Terminal Two:
Most Systems Working. Some Problems With Bag Belts
Fuel Farm:
No Fuel Aval From Fuel Farm To Whole Airport
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2nd Power Outage At Man ..... Update
Terminal One And Three:
All Power Systems Ok.
Baggage Processing System Not Avilable. Contingency Plans In Place
To Process Bags To Aircraft - Some Delays Expected During Peak Times
Terminal Two:
All Systems Ruuning As Normal
Fuel Farm:
Systems Running As Normal
Cargo Terminal And Off Airport Offices Incl Clc
All Systems Running As Normal
Terminal One And Three:
All Power Systems Ok.
Baggage Processing System Not Avilable. Contingency Plans In Place
To Process Bags To Aircraft - Some Delays Expected During Peak Times
Terminal Two:
All Systems Ruuning As Normal
Fuel Farm:
Systems Running As Normal
Cargo Terminal And Off Airport Offices Incl Clc
All Systems Running As Normal
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a flood in a plant room in one of the airport’s office buildings
Er sorry no - that was the last fault some months ago.
This morning's fault was a cable failure somewhere in the vicinity of the fuel farm, West Cargo apron still affected, rest of site fully on supply.
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bermudatriangle and All,
Expansion on a significant scale at MAN by Ryanair is not assured. The four routes launched in April - whilst very welcome - amount to just twelve departures per week. At the time, Ryanair stated that a further four routes ex-MAN would follow with a launch date of June 2008, and four more routes beyond that for next Winter. However, there has been no sniff of an announcement regarding new routes since that initial press release. If they intend to launch new routes in June they really need to be placing them on sale right now. Another possible explanation is that they have quietly shelved plans for the four new routes in June and hope that everybody has forgotten about them. You may recall that the original press-release did seem like a rushed-job in response to Easyjet's big announcement the previous day.
Now I hope that I am wrong and that Ryanair do indeed announce those four new routes for June launch. But if they do not, what does that imply for those services promised next Winter and beyond? Perhaps it is premature to assume that Ryanair has big plans for MAN; they have committed themselves to a major base at BHX since the original MAN announcement, and generally tough market conditions (notably fuel costs) have led to RYR suggesting that they will ground 20 aircraft for Winter 2008/9. Even Ryanair must respond to the harsh realities of economic slowdown. One is forced to wonder whether - under these conditions - the company view expansion at MAN with quite the same enthusiasm that we contributors to this thread do.
Some observant readers may have noticed a significant snippet of information in the Thomsonfly thread. Fleet distribution plans for the merged TOM/FCA airline call for a reduction of FIVE based aircraft at MAN for Summer 2009. Just stop for a moment and consider the impact of this single news item; its not a headline-grabber like the BA JFK decision but it is massively more significant. This substantial setback alone outweighs all commitments to MAN offered by Easyjet's proposal to eventually base five (smaller) aircraft at MAN themselves. Ryanair's existing programme does not come close to offsetting cutbacks by the combined MyTravel/Thomas Cook operation, cutbacks by XL, Astraeus etc, and the disappearance of Flyjet and British Jet. We are looking at lean times going forward and will be best served by being realistic about that.
The idea that Ryanair and Easyjet will save the day by committing vast resources to an enhanced MAN operation in the future is an attractive dream to many. But it may be unwise to presume that significant additional expansion from them will actually transpire in the medium term. And we must be prepared for the possibility that some carriers already serving MAN will not emerge from the other side of this coming recession. I write this on the day that EOS failed; not a MAN operator I know, but another symptom of difficult times ahead. Think not to service expansion; think to service retention!
Best to All. SHED.
Expansion on a significant scale at MAN by Ryanair is not assured. The four routes launched in April - whilst very welcome - amount to just twelve departures per week. At the time, Ryanair stated that a further four routes ex-MAN would follow with a launch date of June 2008, and four more routes beyond that for next Winter. However, there has been no sniff of an announcement regarding new routes since that initial press release. If they intend to launch new routes in June they really need to be placing them on sale right now. Another possible explanation is that they have quietly shelved plans for the four new routes in June and hope that everybody has forgotten about them. You may recall that the original press-release did seem like a rushed-job in response to Easyjet's big announcement the previous day.
Now I hope that I am wrong and that Ryanair do indeed announce those four new routes for June launch. But if they do not, what does that imply for those services promised next Winter and beyond? Perhaps it is premature to assume that Ryanair has big plans for MAN; they have committed themselves to a major base at BHX since the original MAN announcement, and generally tough market conditions (notably fuel costs) have led to RYR suggesting that they will ground 20 aircraft for Winter 2008/9. Even Ryanair must respond to the harsh realities of economic slowdown. One is forced to wonder whether - under these conditions - the company view expansion at MAN with quite the same enthusiasm that we contributors to this thread do.
Some observant readers may have noticed a significant snippet of information in the Thomsonfly thread. Fleet distribution plans for the merged TOM/FCA airline call for a reduction of FIVE based aircraft at MAN for Summer 2009. Just stop for a moment and consider the impact of this single news item; its not a headline-grabber like the BA JFK decision but it is massively more significant. This substantial setback alone outweighs all commitments to MAN offered by Easyjet's proposal to eventually base five (smaller) aircraft at MAN themselves. Ryanair's existing programme does not come close to offsetting cutbacks by the combined MyTravel/Thomas Cook operation, cutbacks by XL, Astraeus etc, and the disappearance of Flyjet and British Jet. We are looking at lean times going forward and will be best served by being realistic about that.
The idea that Ryanair and Easyjet will save the day by committing vast resources to an enhanced MAN operation in the future is an attractive dream to many. But it may be unwise to presume that significant additional expansion from them will actually transpire in the medium term. And we must be prepared for the possibility that some carriers already serving MAN will not emerge from the other side of this coming recession. I write this on the day that EOS failed; not a MAN operator I know, but another symptom of difficult times ahead. Think not to service expansion; think to service retention!
Best to All. SHED.
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I agree with you Shed-on-a-pole.
MAN should not expect the major expansion but I do feel that the way MOL will play it is by going head into the recession. Sort of a 'come and get me' statement. He will not be grounding 20 planes this winter as explained on another post. There won't be planes sat on the ground for 5 months while we wait for the summer season to start! It means it is the equivalent of 20 planes meaning the a/c will do less sectors per day. Yes they will spend more time on the ground, maybe operating an operation similar to an airline that treats the planes well and doesn't crank up the hours on it's plane's engines (not that I am saying that is a bad thing - works for FR!)
I do believe that FR will grow in the MAN market and they can't afford not to. MAN is going to become a U2 playground if the recession takes hold on the likes of WW and LS and the only way for FR to combat that is to expand at the airport, which to be perfectly honest, I see happening within the 12 months. I'm not expecting a BHX style expansion yet, but I would be surprised if FR were to avoid MAN if one of the other locos was going to joing EOS, MaxJet, ATA etc. in the graveyard.
MAN should not expect the major expansion but I do feel that the way MOL will play it is by going head into the recession. Sort of a 'come and get me' statement. He will not be grounding 20 planes this winter as explained on another post. There won't be planes sat on the ground for 5 months while we wait for the summer season to start! It means it is the equivalent of 20 planes meaning the a/c will do less sectors per day. Yes they will spend more time on the ground, maybe operating an operation similar to an airline that treats the planes well and doesn't crank up the hours on it's plane's engines (not that I am saying that is a bad thing - works for FR!)
I do believe that FR will grow in the MAN market and they can't afford not to. MAN is going to become a U2 playground if the recession takes hold on the likes of WW and LS and the only way for FR to combat that is to expand at the airport, which to be perfectly honest, I see happening within the 12 months. I'm not expecting a BHX style expansion yet, but I would be surprised if FR were to avoid MAN if one of the other locos was going to joing EOS, MaxJet, ATA etc. in the graveyard.
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MAN loses power as of 14:00 27/04/08
MAN has lost serveral power systems all over the airport, it has affected airfield ops as well, including lighting....
keep updated in the following thread...
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=324514
scott
keep updated in the following thread...
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=324514
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G-STAW
Having read the start of the original post that you link to I see that the event actually happened at around 0200 this morning.
Your post makes it read as if the airport had just suffered another loss of power!!
Might be best just to leave the old thread to be discussed..........
Having read the start of the original post that you link to I see that the event actually happened at around 0200 this morning.
Your post makes it read as if the airport had just suffered another loss of power!!
Might be best just to leave the old thread to be discussed..........
