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Hi Suzeman
I actually bought the paper so havnt checked the web.
I was over in hometown Monday and picked up a copy, it was by one of the opinion writers page 8 or 9 something like that, but like an editorial comment over 1 page..... but to be honest I do not get the MEN very much so not sure who it was.....!
He was suprisingly well informed and knew about blocked applications etc etc.
If you remind me FRI when I am back home I will check it out, I am currently working away til then.
I actually bought the paper so havnt checked the web.
I was over in hometown Monday and picked up a copy, it was by one of the opinion writers page 8 or 9 something like that, but like an editorial comment over 1 page..... but to be honest I do not get the MEN very much so not sure who it was.....!
He was suprisingly well informed and knew about blocked applications etc etc.
If you remind me FRI when I am back home I will check it out, I am currently working away til then.
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These articles are from MEN Online:
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....w_york_service
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....take_off_again
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....w_york_service
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....take_off_again
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Viscount...
With regards to the ZB winter schedule, the reduction in frequency on some routes has come about as a direct result of new routes that were not available last winter and an increase in frequency on established routes from last winter. These are:
GIB - New route, operates 3 x weekly
LCA - New for winter, operates 3 x weekly
MJV - New for winter, operates 3 x weekly (didn't operate Nov, Dec or Jan during W07/08)
ACE - Increased to 4 x weekly up from 2 x weekly during W07/08
AGP - Increased to 12 x weekly up from 10 x weekly during W07/08
BCN - Increased to daily up from 6 x weekly during certain months W07/08
Decreases are as follows:
TFS - Reduced to 6 x weekly from daily during W07/08
ALC - Reduced to 6 x weekly from daily during W07/08
LEI - Reduced to 3 x weekly from 4 x weekly during W07/08
MAH - Will not operate. Reduced from 1 x weekly during W07/08
In line with W07/08, PMI & IBZ will not operate Nov 08 - Mar 09.
FAO remains 5 x weekly in line with W07/08.
GIB - New route, operates 3 x weekly
LCA - New for winter, operates 3 x weekly
MJV - New for winter, operates 3 x weekly (didn't operate Nov, Dec or Jan during W07/08)
ACE - Increased to 4 x weekly up from 2 x weekly during W07/08
AGP - Increased to 12 x weekly up from 10 x weekly during W07/08
BCN - Increased to daily up from 6 x weekly during certain months W07/08
Decreases are as follows:
TFS - Reduced to 6 x weekly from daily during W07/08
ALC - Reduced to 6 x weekly from daily during W07/08
LEI - Reduced to 3 x weekly from 4 x weekly during W07/08
MAH - Will not operate. Reduced from 1 x weekly during W07/08
In line with W07/08, PMI & IBZ will not operate Nov 08 - Mar 09.
FAO remains 5 x weekly in line with W07/08.
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Thanks for the update.
AFAIK MAN not yet released and what is showing may not be final unless you have other information.
When I first looked certain destination were not showing and what was available seemed to suggest greater reductions than you have now reported.
Interestingly, the TFS on SAT, LEI on SAT and ALC on Weds showing now as sold out rather than no flight. Could these still be added.
Viscount
Thanks for the update.
AFAIK MAN not yet released and what is showing may not be final unless you have other information.
When I first looked certain destination were not showing and what was available seemed to suggest greater reductions than you have now reported.
Interestingly, the TFS on SAT, LEI on SAT and ALC on Weds showing now as sold out rather than no flight. Could these still be added.
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Well they haven't announced anything but as IB says, the routes are on sale. Strange, unless they were released prior to LTN, BHX & LGW but I don't recall hearing that. Maybe they're still tweaking the schedules and as a result have added frequencies over the past few weeks and will perhaps change the flights around again prior to releasing them.
I doubt that those flights are really sold out. That has happened to me once before on an AGP-MAN flight about two years ago. I booked it, it then showed full in the system and a week later they emailed me to say that the flight was no longer operating and I needed to choose an alternative. What is a little odd though is the fact that having been increased to 9 x weekly for the summer, TFS is reduced for winter. I would have thought there would be more winter demand to the Canaries and this is shown by the increase in ACE flights to 4 x weekly from October. 12 x weekly for AGP is also quite an ambitious winter programme especially for December and January. We shall see...
I doubt that those flights are really sold out. That has happened to me once before on an AGP-MAN flight about two years ago. I booked it, it then showed full in the system and a week later they emailed me to say that the flight was no longer operating and I needed to choose an alternative. What is a little odd though is the fact that having been increased to 9 x weekly for the summer, TFS is reduced for winter. I would have thought there would be more winter demand to the Canaries and this is shown by the increase in ACE flights to 4 x weekly from October. 12 x weekly for AGP is also quite an ambitious winter programme especially for December and January. We shall see...
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The MAN ZB flights were not bookable at the beginning of the week.
By releasing now, they can pick up bookings before WW, EZY and LS reveal their programme.
By releasing now, they can pick up bookings before WW, EZY and LS reveal their programme.
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Maybe the MAN routes are so popular that ZB don't need to advertise them!
They needn't worry about LS. They'll probably operate the usual poor excuse of 2 x weekly AGP etc. Think it'll be a very quiet winter as far as they're concerned. WW and certainly EZY may have the 1 or 2 things up their sleeves though.
They needn't worry about LS. They'll probably operate the usual poor excuse of 2 x weekly AGP etc. Think it'll be a very quiet winter as far as they're concerned. WW and certainly EZY may have the 1 or 2 things up their sleeves though.
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MAG to sell HUY
MAG have put HUY up for sale. Cash in the bank for a possible BAA airport purchase maybe?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/humber/7367258.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/humber/7367258.stm
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Or storing cash for the lean times ahead - following Martin Lewis's advice and reducing debt 
MAPLC bought HUY thinking it was the cool thing to do, then suddenly got the chance to buy EMA (getting BOH for free - lucky them) though they paid well over the odds for it thinking they'd spoil any other bidders' chances. Pity there weren't any.
Having bought those two, they realised that HUY was a bit embarrassing but had to be seen to hang onto it to save face. I'm surprised they've waited this long.
I wonder if they'll offer the former MAPLC employee and HUY's MD, Rob Goldsmith, a job within MAG, or will they leave him out in the cold?
MAPLC bought HUY thinking it was the cool thing to do, then suddenly got the chance to buy EMA (getting BOH for free - lucky them) though they paid well over the odds for it thinking they'd spoil any other bidders' chances. Pity there weren't any.
Having bought those two, they realised that HUY was a bit embarrassing but had to be seen to hang onto it to save face. I'm surprised they've waited this long.
I wonder if they'll offer the former MAPLC employee and HUY's MD, Rob Goldsmith, a job within MAG, or will they leave him out in the cold?
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HUY for Sale
MD HUY, Rob Goldsmith, has already been appointed as MD BOH. He did his best to bring traffic to the airport, but in the face of the competition from Robin Hood and EMA, it was a massive task, especially in the loco world.
MAG bought HUY to appease John Prescott who was DPM at the time, and to bring political favour. That worked, but with no realistic future growth, time has sadly run out.
It's hardly likely that the returns from the sale of HUY will fund the purchase of LGW, maybe a few lawyers only!
Uncertain times for the good people who work at HUY, I hope all works out well for everyone's future, either in MAG or with a new operator.
MAG bought HUY to appease John Prescott who was DPM at the time, and to bring political favour. That worked, but with no realistic future growth, time has sadly run out.
It's hardly likely that the returns from the sale of HUY will fund the purchase of LGW, maybe a few lawyers only!
Uncertain times for the good people who work at HUY, I hope all works out well for everyone's future, either in MAG or with a new operator.
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Don't tell me you are all surprised at BA pulling the plug on the JFK route? They are nicknamed 'London Airways' for a reason! They have no desire to direct customers away from T5. As for the slot at MAN - they will probably put a extra LHR rotation in. Like what bmi have done recently!! 
Well, you saw the BA 777 that came a croper at LHR had only something like 138 pax from PEK. My mate has just been on LHR-ORD with BA on one of their 3 daily rotations, less than 80 pax on board-J class almost empty. So yes, far better BA keep all their ships down at LHR on all those lucrative routes down there.
Back to MAN, anyone any idea how much of a slump there will be to the "old" landside shops now that they are all airside ? Must be hundereds of landside staff now with no access to the likes of Boots ( all airside now) etc I know alot used Boots not just for sandwiches-but also presciptions as Boots collected prescription from surgeries too.
I guess Spar in T3 may have to open a second till !
Back to MAN, anyone any idea how much of a slump there will be to the "old" landside shops now that they are all airside ? Must be hundereds of landside staff now with no access to the likes of Boots ( all airside now) etc I know alot used Boots not just for sandwiches-but also presciptions as Boots collected prescription from surgeries too.
I guess Spar in T3 may have to open a second till !
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To BA's defence, you have only picked out 2 flights there.
IF BA were only flying 80 pax on all three BOS flights they would surely reduce the route to 1x daily?
Alot of BA flights fill out, especially going East.
IF BA were only flying 80 pax on all three BOS flights they would surely reduce the route to 1x daily?
Alot of BA flights fill out, especially going East.
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BA's planes are full of people who hail from
all corners of the country but I have not seen
any guns being held to the travelling publics
collective 'heads' to make them travel with
them.
BA is not a national airline after all and it makes
good logistical business sense to funnel all
traffic through one departure point ie: London -
the epicenter of the country.The monopoly on slots
held by BA at Heathrow is another matter - long since
glossed over by the ruling liberal elite.
They are as keen as MOL on keeping a tight ship
which is what the shareholders want at the end of the
day.All hail to the shareholders for they are king!!
T5 was a bit of a shocker though and it might end up
that it wasnt BA's but BAA's fault - the damage has been
done to the brand and compensation will be millions if
proved to be - as well as BAA loosing one of its clutch
of airfields.
MM
all corners of the country but I have not seen
any guns being held to the travelling publics
collective 'heads' to make them travel with
them.
BA is not a national airline after all and it makes
good logistical business sense to funnel all
traffic through one departure point ie: London -
the epicenter of the country.The monopoly on slots
held by BA at Heathrow is another matter - long since
glossed over by the ruling liberal elite.
They are as keen as MOL on keeping a tight ship
which is what the shareholders want at the end of the
day.All hail to the shareholders for they are king!!
T5 was a bit of a shocker though and it might end up
that it wasnt BA's but BAA's fault - the damage has been
done to the brand and compensation will be millions if
proved to be - as well as BAA loosing one of its clutch
of airfields.
MM
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Mr A Tis...
Once the redevelopment of T1 Arrivals is complete (Mid June I think), there will be new landside shopping facilities down there. It's been a while since I have seen the plans but I believe there will be a Boots, larger WHSmith, Greggs bakery & a small food court located in the new arrivals shopping concourse. This was included in the arrivals redevelopment plan because prior to its inclusion, there were no planned facilities for landside staff or passengers on delayed flights and the airport (eventually) recognised that they needed to make previsions.
The same style of redevelopment will also occur in T2 Arrivals, albeit at a later date. I believe the plan for T2 will include a Boots & a 24-hour Spar in addition to the current WHSmith & food court.
The same style of redevelopment will also occur in T2 Arrivals, albeit at a later date. I believe the plan for T2 will include a Boots & a 24-hour Spar in addition to the current WHSmith & food court.
According to the hoardings in T1 arrivals, it says the redevelopment of landside arrivals will be open in Spring 2009
In the meantime, there is Burger King & a pasty van. no Boots.
In the meantime, there is Burger King & a pasty van. no Boots.