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Windy Day
By Christ its' been windy here, so much so it managed to spin a TOM 737 through 90 degrees, on std 200.
I belive it hit a baggage belt which helped it to stop
, just as well. The nose gear looked to be at limits but not sure.
Does anybody have more news on this error of judgement?
Fuelboy
I belive it hit a baggage belt which helped it to stop
, just as well. The nose gear looked to be at limits but not sure.Does anybody have more news on this error of judgement?
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Yes the shares are owned by the 10 local authorities, as they have been in the same proportion since 1986.
But the banks own the company in the sense that they hold large "mortgages". If at any time they foreclose, for example there's a profits or income downturn and MA can't make the payments, then MA is er goosed, to use a technical term.
You might think you own your house, but if you can't meet the payments then you'll be sat on your cases on the pavement before you know it.
Until MA bought EMA and BOH there was no debt and they owned everything. Now, they are very highly geared: they borrowed 100% of the purchase price of EMA and BOH and a further sum, almost as large again, secured against MAN, which until then was more or less debt-free.
But the banks own the company in the sense that they hold large "mortgages". If at any time they foreclose, for example there's a profits or income downturn and MA can't make the payments, then MA is er goosed, to use a technical term.
You might think you own your house, but if you can't meet the payments then you'll be sat on your cases on the pavement before you know it.
Until MA bought EMA and BOH there was no debt and they owned everything. Now, they are very highly geared: they borrowed 100% of the purchase price of EMA and BOH and a further sum, almost as large again, secured against MAN, which until then was more or less debt-free.
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Ringway
Thanks for you're concern and obvious support Mickeyman. One thing Dongle78 left off the fairly substantial list of terms and conditions that Ringway staff(that stay on) will lose is all ramp staff will lose over a thousand pounds a year from their wage packets. This is another example of the people at the bottom paying for the mistakes of their management.
I can only assume Mickeyman agrees with new conditions people will be forced to work under. Perhaps we'll see small children cleaning chimneys or working in mills, manual workers don't need all those H&S rules do they, staff are easily replaced!! I know it's far fetched but taking terms and conditions off people is not progress and staff are being backed into a corner with this "more for less" contract.
I should imagine Mr Cornish will get a pat on the back and a large bonus from our caring boss Mr Muirhead once he has overseen the total destruction of Ringway Handling. It would seem that the senior management of our shopping centre/airport just want to be landlords given the fact that they are currently trying to offload other parts of the business too.
Finally, I hope nothing like this happens to Mickeyman. I am not daft i can see the business is not healthy, years of inept management have seen to that. We as workforce are prepared to change the way we work to move forward but to ask a hard working staff to give up their terms and conditions is wrong.
I can only assume Mickeyman agrees with new conditions people will be forced to work under. Perhaps we'll see small children cleaning chimneys or working in mills, manual workers don't need all those H&S rules do they, staff are easily replaced!! I know it's far fetched but taking terms and conditions off people is not progress and staff are being backed into a corner with this "more for less" contract.
I should imagine Mr Cornish will get a pat on the back and a large bonus from our caring boss Mr Muirhead once he has overseen the total destruction of Ringway Handling. It would seem that the senior management of our shopping centre/airport just want to be landlords given the fact that they are currently trying to offload other parts of the business too.
Finally, I hope nothing like this happens to Mickeyman. I am not daft i can see the business is not healthy, years of inept management have seen to that. We as workforce are prepared to change the way we work to move forward but to ask a hard working staff to give up their terms and conditions is wrong.
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RE: GT/EZY situation. GB will continue to operate flights under the current BA franchise until the end of this winter (2007/08). After that, a decision has still to be made regarding this. There are currently legalities regarding LPL and the contract that EZY has there. There is a possibility, albeit a slim one, that EZY will not continue flights out of MAN. There intention however, is to open MAN as a base and this has long been a desire. If EZY do open MAN, the current GB flights will operate as per usual for the summer 2008 season but thereafter, EZY may decide to use the slots for other, more traditional, EZY routes.
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Those Cargo Chappies have got it right!!
Been thwarted by Somerset house regarding the name change to Lord Tootreeright as they say it's positive discrimination against all Tootreelefts and that Magnetic variation should have been taken into account at the time of the bestowing of my honours!!! - Has the world gone mad?
Anyway to the matter in hand:-
I have heard from a reliable source two pieces of news, one good and one not quite so good.
The not quite so good news is that Air China MAY be scaling back their operation at Manchester from Three services per week down to Two per week next summer.
The good news is that Jade Cargo may be starting a B747F service, twice per week come Springtime, via Budapest
Lean Green frieghter machines!!
Nice for piccies.
Lord 24R
Anyway to the matter in hand:-
I have heard from a reliable source two pieces of news, one good and one not quite so good.
The not quite so good news is that Air China MAY be scaling back their operation at Manchester from Three services per week down to Two per week next summer.
The good news is that Jade Cargo may be starting a B747F service, twice per week come Springtime, via Budapest
Lean Green frieghter machines!!
Nice for piccies.
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Bagchucker:
Obviously Dongle78 was not bothered about loosing the
grand and thats why he didnt mention it!
As your name suggests you are only employed to load
and so are not as important as you seem to think.
From a mangement point of view your expensive
employment can be seen to be surpluss to their
requirement now that there are plenty of cheaper
options available.
It makes no difference if you are in a union or not these
days the outcome will be the same........
In the strive for efficiency the management hold all
the cards..............and may have dealt you a
terminal one (sic).
Happy days..........
MM
Obviously Dongle78 was not bothered about loosing the
grand and thats why he didnt mention it!
As your name suggests you are only employed to load
and so are not as important as you seem to think.
From a mangement point of view your expensive
employment can be seen to be surpluss to their
requirement now that there are plenty of cheaper
options available.
It makes no difference if you are in a union or not these
days the outcome will be the same........
In the strive for efficiency the management hold all
the cards..............and may have dealt you a
terminal one (sic).
Happy days..........
MM
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One of our captains aparently was sat next to one of EZY's legal team on the shuttle who informed him that the LPL legality has been settled out of court and that 11 routes have been applied for by EZY ex MAN
could easy have a future then?
One of our captains aparently was sat next to one of EZY's legal team on the shuttle who informed him that the LPL legality has been settled out of court and that 11 routes have been applied for by EZY ex MAN
could easy have a future then?
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Mickyman
yes I am bothered about the cuts in pay !!
I just did not have that information at the time of posting.
I DON'T WORK FOR RHS.
What a nice guy you appear to be !
yes I am bothered about the cuts in pay !!
I just did not have that information at the time of posting.
I DON'T WORK FOR RHS.
What a nice guy you appear to be !
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The not quite so good news is that Air China MAY be scaling back their operation at Manchester from Three services per week down to Two per week next summer.
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Good evening Suzeman.....
It looks as if we might be working from a similar script!!
As to easyJet it would be good to see their establish a base at Manchester. Certainly they are better known than sme of the other LCC and would hopefully breathe new life into the airport; it's services and investment.
It looks as if we might be working from a similar script!!
As to easyJet it would be good to see their establish a base at Manchester. Certainly they are better known than sme of the other LCC and would hopefully breathe new life into the airport; it's services and investment.
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AMS
AGP
MAD
BCN
CDG|
SXF
TLL
LIS
ATH
CIA
NCE
would be my guess.....
AGP
MAD
BCN
CDG|
SXF
TLL
LIS
ATH
CIA
NCE
would be my guess.....
What about LYS and LEI?
Also, which terminal? T1? Will anybody react? FR from LPL?
Look out MAN! Orange is the new colour!
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It would be good to have some decent competition on BCN so Easy would be welcome on this route as far as I'm concerned...... I've just booked for March with ZB and what I paid was hardly what you would class as a "low fare". Still, thats bad news for me and good news for ZB I guess! 
Goes without saying that if they started MAD, SXF and LIS these would be very welcome seeing as they've all slipped off MAN's departure boards over the last year.
Goes without saying that if they started MAD, SXF and LIS these would be very welcome seeing as they've all slipped off MAN's departure boards over the last year.
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Well if the SXF route does come off then it's mixed news.
Easy have already put up their fares on the LPL-SXF route this winter with the cheapest fares doubled. Bad news for competition and choice. I'd still rather see AB again at MAN.
The futures a sort of murky orange colour from here.
Easy have already put up their fares on the LPL-SXF route this winter with the cheapest fares doubled. Bad news for competition and choice. I'd still rather see AB again at MAN.
The futures a sort of murky orange colour from here.
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Goes without saying that if they started MAD, SXF and LIS these would be very welcome seeing as they've all slipped off MAN's departure boards over the last year.
LS and WW - watch out! The big boys are arriving and from what we have heard, aren't going to be taking any of the punches!
Does anybody know how many aircraft they plan to base? Surely somebody from the inside is reading this and is ready to burst? PLEASE!
It is starting to make sense now. When they announced flights from BHX to the ski airports afew months ago, I questioned why not MAN aswell? Weel, I think we may now be seeing the answer!
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Are we not jumping the gun on EZY at the moment.
To more mundane things.
Has anyone heard anything Re:
BD to SOU I reported above.
What new routes WW may have in mind
What Zoom are up to.
Also anything more about possible routes to Africa reported last year
To more mundane things.
Has anyone heard anything Re:
BD to SOU I reported above.
What new routes WW may have in mind
What Zoom are up to.
Also anything more about possible routes to Africa reported last year
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What Zoom are up to.
Not sure, time is going on now and seemingly still no commitment to a summer 08 schedule from MAN. Would eat my hat if they didn't stick around for a bigger slice of the Canadian action now AC are off the scene..... but we all know this industry, stranger things have happened.
Not sure, time is going on now and seemingly still no commitment to a summer 08 schedule from MAN. Would eat my hat if they didn't stick around for a bigger slice of the Canadian action now AC are off the scene..... but we all know this industry, stranger things have happened.
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Well, the BD flights are only a matter of time away. Expect the route to be announced within 7 days. As you say, it is already in the OAG engine. Will this effect BE or are they too strong on the route?
Currently, OAG is showing twice weekly for ZOOM while TCX/TS will operate:
MON 13:30(TS) & 14:45(TCX) A310/B752
TUE 15:55(TCX) B752
WED 12:00(TCX) B752
THU 13:30(TS) 14:35(TCX) A310/B752
FRI 14:15(TS) 16:35(TCX) A310/B752
SAT 13:30(TS) 15:55(TCX) A310/B752
SUN 13:25(TCX) 13:30(TS) B752/A310
All are obviously codeshares and will be used mainly for Canadian Affair.
Flyglobespan will be weekly (Tue) for next summer to YHM with B752 (I think!)
WW probably will be shi**ing themselves with an EZY base looking very likely.
May see LS long haul from MAN and NCL according to other threads.
And according to the Airliners, VS are looking at PVG (Shanghai) 3x weekly. Can only see this as a rumour.
Air China due 2009
CX due next summer
AirAsiaX also very likely to join the airport. Unless STN pull through MAN could see Kuala Lumpur on the departure board quite soon. Nothing to do with MUFC being sponsored by AirAsia or anything like that!
Anymore?
Currently, OAG is showing twice weekly for ZOOM while TCX/TS will operate:
MON 13:30(TS) & 14:45(TCX) A310/B752
TUE 15:55(TCX) B752
WED 12:00(TCX) B752
THU 13:30(TS) 14:35(TCX) A310/B752
FRI 14:15(TS) 16:35(TCX) A310/B752
SAT 13:30(TS) 15:55(TCX) A310/B752
SUN 13:25(TCX) 13:30(TS) B752/A310
All are obviously codeshares and will be used mainly for Canadian Affair.
Flyglobespan will be weekly (Tue) for next summer to YHM with B752 (I think!)
WW probably will be shi**ing themselves with an EZY base looking very likely.
May see LS long haul from MAN and NCL according to other threads.
And according to the Airliners, VS are looking at PVG (Shanghai) 3x weekly. Can only see this as a rumour.
Air China due 2009
CX due next summer
AirAsiaX also very likely to join the airport. Unless STN pull through MAN could see Kuala Lumpur on the departure board quite soon. Nothing to do with MUFC being sponsored by AirAsia or anything like that!
Anymore?