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EZY are first with the local advertising - it's everywhere !
I have seen nowt all weekend but Bus Shelters, Buses & Road Side Ads with bright orange ads announcing EZY are "Proud to fly from Manchester".
I like the proud bit and reading between the line! EZY are chuffed at eventually getting their MAN dream.
I have seen nowt all weekend but Bus Shelters, Buses & Road Side Ads with bright orange ads announcing EZY are "Proud to fly from Manchester".
I like the proud bit and reading between the line! EZY are chuffed at eventually getting their MAN dream.
I am not a big fan of LPL, but I feel that the promise EZY made to increase their presence at LPL aswell as their new base MAN may not turn out as planned. When EZY realise that the profits to be made from MAN are far superior than those at LPL, they may think that it is far more profitable to make MAN their main base in the North. I know many on this thread would think it would be excellent and would shut up the 'LPL no-hopers' who believe that LPL has something over MAN, but I believe that this would be a bad thing for the region in that MAN would start to grow an even bigger gap on LPL and become too big a power for LPL to cope with.
I would also have said that FR would have taken over LPL before EZY had even moved out but by looking at their announcement for new routes from MAN and then apparent rumours for more it may not be the case.
I was once an LPL beater...but now I feel this could be a major blow for them in the long run...anyway...thats my thoughts out...back to the LPL bashing!
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Not in the industry so no idea of the implications...
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....trols_scrapped
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....trols_scrapped
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Concorde to get roof over it's head
According to a press release from the airport authority Concorde should finally get a long awaited roof over it's head this summer. 
Subject to planning approval from the City Council work should start in the spring and be completed by the end of July.
Presumably this means two things. Firstly the AVP will not be relocating in the near future, and secondly the talked about use of the AVP as apron/taxiway areas is also dead.
Subject to planning approval from the City Council work should start in the spring and be completed by the end of July.
Presumably this means two things. Firstly the AVP will not be relocating in the near future, and secondly the talked about use of the AVP as apron/taxiway areas is also dead.
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Manchester recieves Award
Announced today that MIA has been voted UK,s Best Regional Airport in 2008(?) in the Travel Weekly Globe Awards.(votes cast by Travel Agents)
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Hi Scottie Dog,
I believe that the plans for the Concorde development always envisaged use of a structure which could be easily dissembled and re-erected on a new site if/when circumstances require. So whilst news of the shelter is very welcome in itself, I wouldn't read too much into its implications for other planned developments around the airfield.
Apologies for not replying sooner; since the BA B777 incident my access to PPRUNE has been very intermittent.
All the best. SHED.
I believe that the plans for the Concorde development always envisaged use of a structure which could be easily dissembled and re-erected on a new site if/when circumstances require. So whilst news of the shelter is very welcome in itself, I wouldn't read too much into its implications for other planned developments around the airfield.
Apologies for not replying sooner; since the BA B777 incident my access to PPRUNE has been very intermittent.
All the best. SHED.
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Manchester recieves Award
Announced today that MIA has been voted UK,s Best Regional Airport in 2008(?) in the Travel Weekly Globe Awards.(votes cast by Travel Agents)
MIA.... ?? Miami Is voted the UK's Best Regional Airport ?????
Ho Ho !!!
I guess there weren't many contenders then ????
Musn't have been for MAN to win !!!!
Manchester recieves Award
Announced today that MIA has been voted UK,s Best Regional Airport in 2008(?) in the Travel Weekly Globe Awards.(votes cast by Travel Agents)
MIA.... ?? Miami Is voted the UK's Best Regional Airport ?????
Ho Ho !!!
I guess there weren't many contenders then ????
Musn't have been for MAN to win !!!!
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When you consider that is was the TRAVEL AGENTS who voted, it can be understandable.
1. Large UK airports (LPL,BRS,NCL etc.) offer alot of LCC flights which don't offer any commission.
2. Small airports don't offer enough destinations and are often only served by 1 based carrier + FR so not much money making out of there!
3. STN also offers very little money making power for the agencies.
4. The other three biggest (MAN,LHR,LGW) offer connections to destinations across the globe with the world's major legacy carrier and most importantly - make the travel agencies alot of money!
They should rename the awards: 'Best money making airport.' Little to do with how good the airport ACTUALLY IS.
1. Large UK airports (LPL,BRS,NCL etc.) offer alot of LCC flights which don't offer any commission.
2. Small airports don't offer enough destinations and are often only served by 1 based carrier + FR so not much money making out of there!
3. STN also offers very little money making power for the agencies.
4. The other three biggest (MAN,LHR,LGW) offer connections to destinations across the globe with the world's major legacy carrier and most importantly - make the travel agencies alot of money!
They should rename the awards: 'Best money making airport.'
Little to do with how good the airport ACTUALLY IS.
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How about cover for the Punters as well?
According to a press release from the airport authority Concorde should finally get a long awaited roof over it's head this summer.
Anyway back to route news: This may be old hat to some, but I haven't seen it mentioned yet, and that is that JADE Cargo are to start a twice weekly service to Shenzhen from May 1st, arriving mid afternoon and departing at tea-time, via Budapest with B744's - which is nice!
Also Turkish are planning to increase to Eleven flights per week in summer.
Daily at 1000 and out at 1100, and then Mon, Wed Fri & Sun at 1420 in and 1520 out, - all local times.
I'd imagine (although I may be wrong) that little old Manchester will be second only to Amsterdam for Chinese Freighters?? ( Cathay, Dragonair, Air China, Great Wall, Jade and from Chinese Taiwan, China Airlines) - eat your hearts out south of 52.30N !!??
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And I thought you were a nice guy!!
As a travel agent, can you please explain why when I arrange payment at month end to the airlines my commission earnings are approximately £400 on a turnover of £100,000. If travel agents support an airport because of the earning from scheduled carriers then you are very out of touch.
The majority of IATA carriers have paid 0% commission for a number of years - and even the few that did are becoming fewer. Add to that the fact that British Airways even have the audacity to charge the agent a fee of 50p or £1.00 (depending on class of travel) for every sector booked if we wish to have access to all of their fares, and you will see that travel agents are far less likely to support an airport for purely financial reasons.
Hey ho, it's a weekend and I've had enough of talking about work. Time for coffee and then back to the world of aviation as a hobby.
As a travel agent, can you please explain why when I arrange payment at month end to the airlines my commission earnings are approximately £400 on a turnover of £100,000. If travel agents support an airport because of the earning from scheduled carriers then you are very out of touch.
The majority of IATA carriers have paid 0% commission for a number of years - and even the few that did are becoming fewer. Add to that the fact that British Airways even have the audacity to charge the agent a fee of 50p or £1.00 (depending on class of travel) for every sector booked if we wish to have access to all of their fares, and you will see that travel agents are far less likely to support an airport for purely financial reasons.
Hey ho, it's a weekend and I've had enough of talking about work. Time for coffee and then back to the world of aviation as a hobby.
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Quite agree Scottie, any monies made on air bookings are from management fees charged to the client for the work done by the agent, so doesn`t matter if it is a BA/AF or Easyjet flight as they are treated the same way
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Looks like the long haul routes were still going strong during Dec 07!
MAN-SIN 15874 90%!
MAN-DXB 42210 80%
MAN-AUH 13986 86%
MAN-DOH 14469 83%
MAN-EWR 17897 85%
MAN-ATL 11406 89%
These are just a pick of the bunch. Other US destiations keeping the loads up and Pakistan still fighting strong.
Lets hope we see an increase in flights to these destinations over the next 12 months! Cannot believe the destinations above havn't either been upgraded to larger aircraft or have frequency increases!
There is time...
MAN-SIN 15874 90%!
MAN-DXB 42210 80%
MAN-AUH 13986 86%
MAN-DOH 14469 83%
MAN-EWR 17897 85%
MAN-ATL 11406 89%
These are just a pick of the bunch. Other US destiations keeping the loads up and Pakistan still fighting strong.
Lets hope we see an increase in flights to these destinations over the next 12 months! Cannot believe the destinations above havn't either been upgraded to larger aircraft or have frequency increases!
There is time...
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Don't for get that SQ bumped up frequency this winter back to daily and QR were meant be increasing capacity to A330-300s.
Most of the airlines will want to see these kind of occupancy rates maintained for a reasonable (12 months minimum) length of time prior to them boosting capacity or frequency. Besides, we know both SQ and EK are suffering from a lack of equipment...this could be a good thing, as the extra 3 flights SQ are looking at become more likely as and when loads stabilise around the 90% to 95% mark; EK would probably be in 2 minds - a 3rd service means an A330 which could otherwise be used for a new route or an A380 onto EK17: the effects of either would result in around an extra 450 seats each day to be filled!
QR and EY would probably want to bed in their services further - what they plan is open to conjecture. Being fanciful, if QR are interested in EDI at 4 weekly operating 2 morning and 2 evening services, perhaps it might not be out of the realms of possibilty that they may be looking at other services to boost frequency.
CO and DL are probably going to be restricted in upgrading aircraft whilst they are after potentially more lucrative services that require the range or configuration of larger widebodied aircraft.
Most of the airlines will want to see these kind of occupancy rates maintained for a reasonable (12 months minimum) length of time prior to them boosting capacity or frequency. Besides, we know both SQ and EK are suffering from a lack of equipment...this could be a good thing, as the extra 3 flights SQ are looking at become more likely as and when loads stabilise around the 90% to 95% mark; EK would probably be in 2 minds - a 3rd service means an A330 which could otherwise be used for a new route or an A380 onto EK17: the effects of either would result in around an extra 450 seats each day to be filled!
QR and EY would probably want to bed in their services further - what they plan is open to conjecture. Being fanciful, if QR are interested in EDI at 4 weekly operating 2 morning and 2 evening services, perhaps it might not be out of the realms of possibilty that they may be looking at other services to boost frequency.
CO and DL are probably going to be restricted in upgrading aircraft whilst they are after potentially more lucrative services that require the range or configuration of larger widebodied aircraft.
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The December figures were for a daily SQ flight.
About the EK increase. You could say that about their last increase. Remember, they started with only one A310 (don't think it was even daily!). Then came the A330, double daily A330, daily A330 and daily B77W and now look - two B77W! Obviously, there is a limit to how big the market will grow and we can't expect all the carriers to grow and there are simply not enough people wishing to travel! But I would expect EK to be at the top of the list for wanting to collect as many passaengers as possible!
I agree with the CO/DL comment. I would also like to add that if the proposed DL/NW merger was to go through, wouldn't it be quite soon that we would see a NW service? I know that they are getting alot of PAX passing through AMS with them via KLM but surely a daily 752 would get them going? Most routes from MAN do seem to go either one way or the other - total disaster or exceptional.
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So what are we expecting (wanting) over the next twelve/eighteen months?:
Air Asia - Kuala Lumpar
Air China - Beijing
Cathy Pacific/Oasis Hong Kong - Hong Kong
MASSIVE EASYJET EXPANSION!
EK/QR/EY/SQ increase in frequency/aircraft type?
About the EK increase. You could say that about their last increase. Remember, they started with only one A310 (don't think it was even daily!). Then came the A330, double daily A330, daily A330 and daily B77W and now look - two B77W! Obviously, there is a limit to how big the market will grow and we can't expect all the carriers to grow and there are simply not enough people wishing to travel! But I would expect EK to be at the top of the list for wanting to collect as many passaengers as possible!
I agree with the CO/DL comment. I would also like to add that if the proposed DL/NW merger was to go through, wouldn't it be quite soon that we would see a NW service? I know that they are getting alot of PAX passing through AMS with them via KLM but surely a daily 752 would get them going? Most routes from MAN do seem to go either one way or the other - total disaster or exceptional.
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So what are we expecting (wanting
) over the next twelve/eighteen months?:Air Asia - Kuala Lumpar
Air China - Beijing
Cathy Pacific/Oasis Hong Kong - Hong Kong
MASSIVE EASYJET EXPANSION!
EK/QR/EY/SQ increase in frequency/aircraft type?
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If my memory is correct SQ was still daily in December 2006.It went to 5 Weekly on 18 January 2007 until daily was reinstated ay the end of October 2007. The increase was small but still an increase over the previous December
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