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Hmmm. The potential is there, I just don't think they realise it. There is definately demand for onward connections to South America, you only have to look at how many connect through Amsterdam and Paris on a daily basis. With O&D leisure and business traffic on top of connections, a daily A320 would definately fill. Question is, do IB have the spare capacity and if so, how many other destinations are higher up on their list of desires?
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The issue IB would have is that most of their longhaul departures leave MAD mid morning, so you would need a connector in to MAD from MAN that left at between 0600 and 0700 in order to make the transit times viable. Coming back, with the majority of Latin America flights ariving in to MAD early morning, not many pac would want to remain at MAD til the evening for a flight to MAN.
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IB struggle to fill a daily A320 MAD-DUB even reducing it to a A319 some days, didnt they try MAN before? I dont think there is much hope for NCL and other regional airports.
The other barrier is BA they have a hold on IB and want them to send everybody via LHR.
The other barrier is BA they have a hold on IB and want them to send everybody via LHR.
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Well, just received an email today announcing that the Jerez service is cancelled - including my next flight booked on the 30th of November. I used the Madrid service when MON launched it a couple of years ago and that went the same way.
However, got a full refund £157 and rebooked with Ryanair for £89 (to Granada and back from Seville - so quids in!
However, got a full refund £157 and rebooked with Ryanair for £89 (to Granada and back from Seville - so quids in!
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I know IB did the MAN run from Madrid with the Air Nostrum CRJ's as a short lived stand alone service previously..... but back then they were up again 2x daily BA CitiExpress or whatever guise they were in at the time. If my memory serves my correctly I think thats around the time ZB threw their hat into the ring too with their daily A320 too meaning there were far too many seats available to sustain everyone.
Difference is now we have nothing and are crying out for this service to be reintroduced by somebody. I personally think 2x daily Air Nostrum CRJ's would be a good starting point and an instant hit. I would much prefer this option over somebody like WW having a go. With the right timings IB / Air Nostrum could feed into the IB South American network and also cater for the point to point mix of business and city-break traffic.
Difference is now we have nothing and are crying out for this service to be reintroduced by somebody. I personally think 2x daily Air Nostrum CRJ's would be a good starting point and an instant hit. I would much prefer this option over somebody like WW having a go. With the right timings IB / Air Nostrum could feed into the IB South American network and also cater for the point to point mix of business and city-break traffic.
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RB are changing times for Winter. Very odd timings. Also nothing now showing for next summer although OAG were showing flights next summer until a few days ago.
Zoom have flights bookable from all UK airports for next summer other than MAN. Is there anything to this or are they still sorting themselves out with timings.
What about NW and DTW. Everything suggested both here and elsewhere that there would be an announcement by now. the only announcement so far from NW is to AMS
TOM They have made some changes to the routes already announcedfor next summer. Some flights up others down the big decrease is VCE which is only 1 per week as opposed to 4 last year. Remaining flights awaited.
BMI have increased winter flights to EDI but no announcement yet. What happened to SOU.
BE does anyone think that when they do get round to basing any 195's at MAN (these seem to be overdue) they will look at MAD as has been suggested.
Any news on LN cargo service mentioned previously.
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Zoom have flights bookable from all UK airports for next summer other than MAN. Is there anything to this or are they still sorting themselves out with timings.
What about NW and DTW. Everything suggested both here and elsewhere that there would be an announcement by now. the only announcement so far from NW is to AMS
TOM They have made some changes to the routes already announcedfor next summer. Some flights up others down the big decrease is VCE which is only 1 per week as opposed to 4 last year. Remaining flights awaited.
BMI have increased winter flights to EDI but no announcement yet. What happened to SOU.
BE does anyone think that when they do get round to basing any 195's at MAN (these seem to be overdue) they will look at MAD as has been suggested.
Any news on LN cargo service mentioned previously.
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Am I mistaken or did I read somewhere earlier this year when we lost the Madrid route that a service would be back in place by the Winter? ..seem to remember this was promised by an Airport spokesman??
Took the time to E.mail Air Nostrum and had a reply along the lines of serious planning goes into new routes and they cannot confirm that they are looking at starting a Manchester service....but will pass the email on to the route development team..............looks like Easyjet and Ryanair from Liverpool will continue to get my Business then!!!
No chance of Flybe taking this route over methinks...........if Iberia/Nostrum/Click don't start up on the route bet your bottom dollar that Jet2 will with stupid timings and a limited service which will be pulled down to poor loads resulting us back at square one....
Getting sick and tired of saying this but its about time we did really have some new and interesting routes............
Will be interested to see the annual passenger total at the end of the year.
Thats my rant over....time for a beer
Took the time to E.mail Air Nostrum and had a reply along the lines of serious planning goes into new routes and they cannot confirm that they are looking at starting a Manchester service....but will pass the email on to the route development team..............looks like Easyjet and Ryanair from Liverpool will continue to get my Business then!!!
No chance of Flybe taking this route over methinks...........if Iberia/Nostrum/Click don't start up on the route bet your bottom dollar that Jet2 will with stupid timings and a limited service which will be pulled down to poor loads resulting us back at square one....
Getting sick and tired of saying this but its about time we did really have some new and interesting routes............
Will be interested to see the annual passenger total at the end of the year.
Thats my rant over....time for a beer
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I think had Flybe been at all interested in MAD they would have taken on the route directly from BACON to keep the regular punters on the route happy....I would eat my hat if they suddenly decided they wanted to give it a go now!
Gleno, here's hoping your email to Air Nostrum gets the route development team thinking...... and sharp-ish too! Sometimes at the moment it does feel like its doom and gloom in terms of new services and carriers at MAN. Looks like it could be a while until MAN is back on its feet with some of these lost routes............ but here's hoping I'm proved wrong.
Gleno, here's hoping your email to Air Nostrum gets the route development team thinking...... and sharp-ish too! Sometimes at the moment it does feel like its doom and gloom in terms of new services and carriers at MAN. Looks like it could be a while until MAN is back on its feet with some of these lost routes............ but here's hoping I'm proved wrong.
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Seriously, no emails to and from any airline are going to have any impact on the route development team, although a bit of lobbying from interested parties (i.e. us) does help. You can guarantee that these people are in constant contact and almost permanent negotiation with all airlines, including Iberia, Air Nostrum, Clickair, Vueling.....
The loss of MAN-MAD is a probably a huge headache at MAN (and not only the airport, but the City of Manchester, MIDAS, Greater Manchester Chamber of Commerce and all other agencies involved with business, economic linkages and development and tourism, not to mention their Madrid equivalents) The fact that Easyjet and now a predatory Ryanair siphon off so many passengers through LPL, means that it's increasingly difficult for other airlines' number-crunchers to come up with a + sign in their calculations. If it wasn't, there would have been an almost instant BA replacement.
It's time to start viewing MAN and LPL as one market, served by two airports only 23 miles apart, and the best way forward is to provide better ground transport facilities between all areas of the Northwest and both its primary airports.
The loss of MAN-MAD is a probably a huge headache at MAN (and not only the airport, but the City of Manchester, MIDAS, Greater Manchester Chamber of Commerce and all other agencies involved with business, economic linkages and development and tourism, not to mention their Madrid equivalents) The fact that Easyjet and now a predatory Ryanair siphon off so many passengers through LPL, means that it's increasingly difficult for other airlines' number-crunchers to come up with a + sign in their calculations. If it wasn't, there would have been an almost instant BA replacement.
It's time to start viewing MAN and LPL as one market, served by two airports only 23 miles apart, and the best way forward is to provide better ground transport facilities between all areas of the Northwest and both its primary airports.
Yes, agreed. Its about time there was a direct ground transport link between the two airport, so you could swap between services.
There used to be a direct bus service 20 years ago, it took under 40 minutes. Now there is a significant increase in services from both airports there is no such service. There should be co-operation between the two, rather than competition.
There used to be a direct bus service 20 years ago, it took under 40 minutes. Now there is a significant increase in services from both airports there is no such service. There should be co-operation between the two, rather than competition.
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Another thread has reported that AC will not be returning to MAN next year.Can anyone confirm. Seems to be correct as nothing showing on OAG anymore.
Also rumour elsewhere of NE to VIE again anyone have any information.
GSM have put on Website 2x weekly YHM for next summer. Originates from GLA.
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Also rumour elsewhere of NE to VIE again anyone have any information.
GSM have put on Website 2x weekly YHM for next summer. Originates from GLA.
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Great..... looks like we could soon be adding Toronto to the list of previously served destinations from MAN. Now we have rumours of no AC returning, question marks surrounding Z4 as all other UK stations sorted for next summer apart from MAN. Haven't TSC said they won't operate to MAN next summer too???
Yet again we're left high and dry with a sh*tty GSM service to YHM....... well if you can call it a "service" that is
Yet again we're left high and dry with a sh*tty GSM service to YHM....... well if you can call it a "service" that is