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Old 3rd Oct 2007, 22:40
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Aaaah but MUFC_Fan, CX already have something operating from MAN in addition to those big freighters...... they have over 100 seats per flight, they operate numerous times a day, have a red white and blue colour scheme and drop the pax at a place called LHR to connect with a real CX flight, job done

Not sure on their prices compared to the other lot but NW should be a good addition to the network, could be a good grower starting with the 757 then look towards A330 or 787 ops if the route proves a success in the medium term?

Anyone got any other new snippets for next summer yet?!
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Old 3rd Oct 2007, 22:55
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As CX are determined to offer a "lesser" service out of MAN than they do out of LHR i.e. stop off in Moscow and not operate non-stop, then I think we may have to wait a long time for them to bring back passenger services. So how a passenger gets to HKG depends where you want to connect - think gonig with Finnair might be the quickest way to do it.

From Turin's post, one can say :

SQ went public on the "10 times weekly, subject to passenger demand" a while ago so not really adding anything to what was known (unless he's got knowledge of slots requests applications? I've seen Friday, Saturday and Sunday mentioned as the 3 extra days of operation but without times) and operating daily from October has been known for a couple of months or so. Hopefully the 2 extra services a week will attract sufficient passenger numbers for them to evaluate the 3 additional services with a view to starting them in 18-24 months time.

Etihad - I'd rather have them see what the new split timings a la Qatar will do for them before going to 2 daily! Don't think we could state with any confidence that current loads justify expansion just yet.

Qatar - I've seen the config of the 77W. Nice 2 class effort seating 330ish passengers i.e. ideal for MAN and a little bit bigger than the A333s they will be operating this winter. However, I believe they're intending using them on transtlantic runs though.

As for BA, logically if the 787 is replacing the 767, then should BA's MAN-JFK still exist in 4 years time, then it will be 787s. (Not too sure which variety of 787 though as they are getting both -8s and -9s).
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Old 3rd Oct 2007, 23:17
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BMI

BMI to add extra flight to EDI Monday to Thursday from 28 October. On timetable but not announced by BMI on Website

Also they announced Daily TLV from LHR a while back. Announcement removed anyone know why

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Old 4th Oct 2007, 19:08
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So they are going to do both MAN and STN!

I'm guessing STN will be first? MAN will be popular with the football supporters and with of course increase profits at MUFC!

Anyway, great for both airports!

When is the launch?
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Old 4th Oct 2007, 19:24
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no idea,you cant book flights yet though so.probs next summer.
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Old 4th Oct 2007, 19:30
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air asia x

I wouldn't read too much into MAN being shown on the map. In fact it has been showing for many weeks now so its not new. The map only really shows
the destinations being considered

Air Asia haven't said which will be the first destination in the UK or europe come to that. We will have to wait and see

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Old 4th Oct 2007, 20:10
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AirAsia X (D7) announced its first route - KUL-OOL, four-weekly - last Friday. A promotional ticket for KUL-OOL-KUL was about 92 all-in.

D7 has permission to begin flights to/from STN. But whether that'll be its first UK destination is completely uncertain.

D7 will be acquiring 340s - two, I believe. I wonder whether these would be used to/from the UK, or whether it'd operate the 330 via BAH, as some info. has suggested.

The biggest problem is the almost complete lack of information. I think it's just a case of waiting to see what materalises.
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Old 4th Oct 2007, 20:48
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well AK is deaprting back to KUALA LUMPER tommorow,its been in for 3-4 days.

http://www.manchesterairport.co.uk/a...&searchCode=ak
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Old 4th Oct 2007, 23:30
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Air Asia X

Not usually one to contribute to the rumour mill without hard facts (I leave that to others ), but I've heard from numerous different people in work tonight that, after sniffing around T2 for the last 3 days, a big announcement from Air Asia is expected sometime next week. Let's wait and pray...
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Old 5th Oct 2007, 19:52
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Talking

I am always here, looking, but not usually speaking. And no, I am not her, and she is not me, and they are not him, and he is not them....
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Old 6th Oct 2007, 02:30
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Just like the Scarlet Pimpernel.

"They seek him here, they seek him there"
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Old 7th Oct 2007, 13:18
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Stats for September

MAPLC Stats for September don't make good reading on PAX front down again

Cargo on the other hand is doing very well up nearly 24% on last year

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Old 7th Oct 2007, 14:42
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Again we know the figures are going to be down until the Flybe/BAcon effect and the drop in LHR/LGW work through
Don`t expect an increase this year

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Old 7th Oct 2007, 17:17
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Judging by the mutterings from the unhappy punters in the massive security queues in T1 this afternoon, pax will continue to fall. With a choice of other regional airports for most flights, MAN is becoming a less attractive option. BTW, building more shops is not going to be the answer.
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Old 7th Oct 2007, 17:54
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Just read a report that it took over an hour to get through immigration at Stansted the other night so it is not just Manchester

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Old 7th Oct 2007, 18:01
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i know everyone have thoings against man,i flew in peak season in august from T1 and found it fine most i qued was around 10-15 mins.
security was tight etc which is what you want.
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Old 8th Oct 2007, 08:22
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Climate Campaigners 'Blockade Airport'

From Sky News

Climate change protesters say they have blockaded the entrance to domestic departures at Manchester Airport. Robbie Gillett, a spokesman for Plane Stupid, said activists had locked arms to prevent passengers passing through security. A Greater Manchester Police spokesman confirmed they were dealing with a protest at the airport.

A spokesman for Manchester Airport said the protesters had not passed through security checks.

"We have got some protesters in Terminal Three," he said. "They seem to be blockading the entry to the security through into the departure lounge. At the moment, passengers cannot get through to security, but we do have alternative ways of getting passengers through. It is a public area of the airport. They have not breached security. The police are on site and they are dealing with it."

The spokesman added that the protesters had not yet caused any delays to flights.
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Old 8th Oct 2007, 11:08
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Pax figures

Liverpool JLA are reporting a pax increase of 13.7% for the period June to August.This compares to another slippage by MAN on the pax front.
Liverpool now has ( or about to get) around 19 scheduled destinations not served from MAN. Notably Madrid, Berlin, Gdansk & Bucarest.
Where there is a choice, is it that people prefer JLA ? From experience it is easier to park, easier to transit through, not everything is on different levels & queuing is significantly less.
People want an easy & relaxed experience from check in to gate. They are not getting this from MAN. I am sceptical the new T1 security will make any difference, as it is all about more retail shopping. No point in adding more x ray machines, when the existing ones arn't always staffed.
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Old 8th Oct 2007, 11:15
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The spokesman added that the protesters had not yet caused any delays to flights.
No just to the passengers I would have thought! Will get the goss tomorrow as not in today!
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Old 8th Oct 2007, 11:35
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Plane 'Stupid', a very appropriate name for them! What do they hope to achieve? The majority of people flying out of MAN this morning will be there by choice and are therefore not going to be put off flying by a load of jobless morons! If anything, their presence will have a negative effect as they've been delaying passengers getting through security which is bound to annoy most people.

On the subject of Liverpool, it now serves 19 destinations not served by MAN does it. So what? How many destinations do MAN serve that LPL doesn't? I agree that MAN seriously needs routes to Madrid, Geneva, Berlin etc but Liverpool is purely a low cost base and therefore its route structure is bound to be different.

Why is it that Manchester and Liverpool are seen to be in competition with one another? From a management point of view, the growth of LPL is worrying for the top dogs at MAN but from a passenger point of view, surely it's good news. Fact of the matter is, people of the north west can only gain from the fact that we now have a greater choice of airports to fly from. If a route is not available from MAN, then it may well be available down the road at LPL and vice versa. This has got to be better option than transiting through the mess that is London!
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