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MUC and MAN
I was just mentioning MUC as it seems to be an airport that LH may use their A380s, whereas MAN will see less of them, but was still wondering why there has not been a visit to the North West airport which was apparently supposed to happen back in May?
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Have they definitely got rights to be able to fly passengers MAN-GVA-MAN and let them deplane?
No travel sites seem to flag up SVA for direct flights on the route and the Airport website doesn't say that SVA cover Geneva as a destination.
No travel sites seem to flag up SVA for direct flights on the route and the Airport website doesn't say that SVA cover Geneva as a destination.
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Yes, SV definitely have rights according to their station manager, bookable through the sales office.
On a different issue, who applied for slots at the recent slot conference? Did KU or CX re-apply for a HKG service?
On a different issue, who applied for slots at the recent slot conference? Did KU or CX re-apply for a HKG service?
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Manchester Snippets
Two items from the latest "Travel Trade Gazette":
1. JET2 proposes to increase the MAN-based fleet to "eleven or twelve" units for Summer 2008 from nine based in Summer 2007. The additional capacity will be aimed predominantly towards sunshine leisure destinations compatible with Jet2holidays. Type split and actual destinations not stated.
2. GB AIRWAYS Winter 2007/8 scheduled programme from MAN is to include services to Innsbruck and Malta. The airline will not resume services from EMA and BRS to TFS. Perhaps the based units will be completely devoted to MAN services again?
And finally - not from TTG - Singapore cargo airline JETT8 has at last commenced its long awaited MAN service, which should operate twice weekly. Nice to move one from the 'rumours' to the 'news' category occasionally. Good things come to those who wait and all that.
By the way, any further news on the MAN-KRK route? Whilst SkyEurope plans to increase MAN-BTS to daily this Winter, the airline is apparently set to close its Krakow hub to reduce dependence on Eastern Europe. The KRK route always seemed pretty popular from MAN? One for Jet2 to consider if ESK does withdraw perhaps (I believe EXS/LS fly LBA-KRK) ... and MAD would be nice too!
Cheers, SHED.
1. JET2 proposes to increase the MAN-based fleet to "eleven or twelve" units for Summer 2008 from nine based in Summer 2007. The additional capacity will be aimed predominantly towards sunshine leisure destinations compatible with Jet2holidays. Type split and actual destinations not stated.
2. GB AIRWAYS Winter 2007/8 scheduled programme from MAN is to include services to Innsbruck and Malta. The airline will not resume services from EMA and BRS to TFS. Perhaps the based units will be completely devoted to MAN services again?
And finally - not from TTG - Singapore cargo airline JETT8 has at last commenced its long awaited MAN service, which should operate twice weekly. Nice to move one from the 'rumours' to the 'news' category occasionally. Good things come to those who wait and all that.
By the way, any further news on the MAN-KRK route? Whilst SkyEurope plans to increase MAN-BTS to daily this Winter, the airline is apparently set to close its Krakow hub to reduce dependence on Eastern Europe. The KRK route always seemed pretty popular from MAN? One for Jet2 to consider if ESK does withdraw perhaps (I believe EXS/LS fly LBA-KRK) ... and MAD would be nice too!
Cheers, SHED.
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Manchester Airport Plc, I know that you are very busy with security stuff at the moment, but maybe you could just pause for breath and objectively look at a decision you've made over the weekend?
You are still allowing cars (including Mercs and 4x4's) right up to Terminal One, but you won't let the staff bus any nearer than the train station. Just how many busbombs have we had in the last few days? And are not the staff buses reasonably secure, since they run 24/7 with little chance of being loaded with petrol cans and butane cannisters?
Or have you decided to economise on the service still further, and this is the opportunity you've been waiting for? A year ago you blew a fanfare over the new 7.5 minute service, now it's back to 10 minutes, soon it will be to the station only. Let the airline and handling staff walk, after all MAPlc get the best parking spaces near their offices.
You are still allowing cars (including Mercs and 4x4's) right up to Terminal One, but you won't let the staff bus any nearer than the train station. Just how many busbombs have we had in the last few days? And are not the staff buses reasonably secure, since they run 24/7 with little chance of being loaded with petrol cans and butane cannisters?
Or have you decided to economise on the service still further, and this is the opportunity you've been waiting for? A year ago you blew a fanfare over the new 7.5 minute service, now it's back to 10 minutes, soon it will be to the station only. Let the airline and handling staff walk, after all MAPlc get the best parking spaces near their offices.
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If only!
Despite that newsclip, at lunchtime cars were still dropping off outside the T1 Jet2 check-in but the staff carpark bus was banned.
Nothing can get close to T2, and only buses can get to the train station. Perhaps MAPlc want T1 demolished? (Sorry, bad taste suggestion)
Despite that newsclip, at lunchtime cars were still dropping off outside the T1 Jet2 check-in but the staff carpark bus was banned.
Nothing can get close to T2, and only buses can get to the train station. Perhaps MAPlc want T1 demolished? (Sorry, bad taste suggestion)
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Sorry for slight thread hijack here, currently on days off, until Wednesday am. Am I reading this correctly? Staff buses only as far as the rail link? That's insane I work in T3 and our offices are in Olympic! Please pm me.
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The staff bus will only run from the station for at least the next 2 days from what I have heard today. This is not the decision of MAPlc but the advice which has been given and enforced by special branch. Why there are cars being permitted into the ground level drop off area in T1 I do not know but this is clearly a break down in communications somewhere.
The roads directly outside T2 have been closed to all vehicles since Saturday evening and black cabs & private hire have been using the bowling green car park. Car park shuttle buses and hotel courtesy buses are using the station.
Not an ideal situation for both staff and passengers but one I believe is neccessary in the current climate. Give it a few days and, unless anything else happens in the meantime, it will all calm down and services should start returning to normal.
The roads directly outside T2 have been closed to all vehicles since Saturday evening and black cabs & private hire have been using the bowling green car park. Car park shuttle buses and hotel courtesy buses are using the station.
Not an ideal situation for both staff and passengers but one I believe is neccessary in the current climate. Give it a few days and, unless anything else happens in the meantime, it will all calm down and services should start returning to normal.
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Cars should not be allowed so close without some mandatory checks even when this does all calm down...? Even a simple stop and visual check !
Surley it must be difficult to hide gallons and gallon of petrol and gas cylinders.
I am not en expert on car bomb technique but would not road calming/bumps 100 yds away on the approach roads help and be cost effective ?
Would not a severe jolt set a bomb off ?
...there again if they pop 25 mile down the road they could drive in the back way to Stanlow Oil Refinery, leave a bomb and be out of the country by the time it went off!
.....no security on the side lanes and the fence is all hanging down...only contains 30% of all UK oil !
Surley it must be difficult to hide gallons and gallon of petrol and gas cylinders.
I am not en expert on car bomb technique but would not road calming/bumps 100 yds away on the approach roads help and be cost effective ?
Would not a severe jolt set a bomb off ?
...there again if they pop 25 mile down the road they could drive in the back way to Stanlow Oil Refinery, leave a bomb and be out of the country by the time it went off!
.....no security on the side lanes and the fence is all hanging down...only contains 30% of all UK oil !
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Vehicle access at MAN.
First of all if this is in the wrong thread, then please do move it.
Manchester Airport has completely lost the plot with vehicular access to the airport.
Staff who park in staff west and ride the bus in are now taken only as far as the train station and then have to walk the rest of the way in. This is fine except that public vehicles are still being allowed to proceed past Olympic house, where the bus usually drops off for the T1/T3 area, and into the short stay which is attached to T1! This is adding at least another 20 minutes to our day and is rather annoying and makes no sense when passengers are allowed much nearer the terminal in their private vehicles.
Passengers using T2 are not allowed to drop off/pick up outside T2, but can still park in the attached short stay.
Passengers using T3 are now to be dropped off on the roundabout next to the perimeter fencing which has a very large a/c parked directly opposite it everyday.
Security in T3 this morning were made to allow access to T1 passengers as there was a backlog due to a full evacuation of T1 (kitchen fire, nothing sinister).
Manchester is becoming a complete nightmare to work at. When will the daft bus policy change? Why not have pax park in what is now staff west and bus them in? Why not left staff, who should obviously be safer, park in the short stay?
Manchester Airport has completely lost the plot with vehicular access to the airport.
Staff who park in staff west and ride the bus in are now taken only as far as the train station and then have to walk the rest of the way in. This is fine except that public vehicles are still being allowed to proceed past Olympic house, where the bus usually drops off for the T1/T3 area, and into the short stay which is attached to T1! This is adding at least another 20 minutes to our day and is rather annoying and makes no sense when passengers are allowed much nearer the terminal in their private vehicles.
Passengers using T2 are not allowed to drop off/pick up outside T2, but can still park in the attached short stay.
Passengers using T3 are now to be dropped off on the roundabout next to the perimeter fencing which has a very large a/c parked directly opposite it everyday.
Security in T3 this morning were made to allow access to T1 passengers as there was a backlog due to a full evacuation of T1 (kitchen fire, nothing sinister).
Manchester is becoming a complete nightmare to work at. When will the daft bus policy change? Why not have pax park in what is now staff west and bus them in? Why not left staff, who should obviously be safer, park in the short stay?
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West gate security
What a joke today at west gate only 3 lanes open.....waiting over 30 mins to get through............
I know there is a security alert at present but there antics today were way over the top there seem to be more staff stood about talking than actually assisting the ones checking under bonets in boots...come on guys
J
I know there is a security alert at present but there antics today were way over the top there seem to be more staff stood about talking than actually assisting the ones checking under bonets in boots...come on guys
J
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I've actually started a thread on this in R&N. It is a shambles! People allowed to drop off on the perimeter opposite stand 55 in T3. Good call guys.
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Since when does this shambles of an airport, ever care about the staff who have to use it each day?
Security at MAN is a joke, they target the wrong people. The whole response to the GLA bombing has been a typical knee jerk reaction, with someone sitting in Olympic House proclaming that they are now bomb proof!! To stop the staff bus at the railway station whilst still allowing the public up close is tantamount to criminal.
Today, I received an email from my company asking me to sign a form that has been sent by the Pass Office at MAN. On it, it tells me that I must inform the powers that be if I see anything suspicious. Failure to sign and return by the 27/7 WILL result in cancellation of my ID. I ask you. How does signing a useless bit of paper make me any more vigilant.
Security in the UK is run by jobworths who have as much idea as a dead cod. Perhaps all staff at MAN should go on strike for a day during the summer until the airport wakes up and smells the coffee.
MAN is a tired, badly designed, leaking sh**hole of an airport, and they still have the gall to describe themselves as the worlds favourite. Yeah right, they are really good when compared to Vancouver or Changi!!!
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Security at MAN is a joke, they target the wrong people. The whole response to the GLA bombing has been a typical knee jerk reaction, with someone sitting in Olympic House proclaming that they are now bomb proof!! To stop the staff bus at the railway station whilst still allowing the public up close is tantamount to criminal.
Today, I received an email from my company asking me to sign a form that has been sent by the Pass Office at MAN. On it, it tells me that I must inform the powers that be if I see anything suspicious. Failure to sign and return by the 27/7 WILL result in cancellation of my ID. I ask you. How does signing a useless bit of paper make me any more vigilant.
Security in the UK is run by jobworths who have as much idea as a dead cod. Perhaps all staff at MAN should go on strike for a day during the summer until the airport wakes up and smells the coffee.
MAN is a tired, badly designed, leaking sh**hole of an airport, and they still have the gall to describe themselves as the worlds favourite. Yeah right, they are really good when compared to Vancouver or Changi!!!
Rant over
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Isn't it quite obvious that staff, who undergo security checks numerous times a day and have to undergo disclosure checks even if their moving companies on the same airport, pose much more of a security risk than Joe public who's just got off a plane from Baghdad.