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Oops I forgot.....
I suppose I should have included in my figures for Summer 08 the fact that planned movements are -2.8pc down and seats available -1.4pc on the same period last year.
Now that might seem like gloom and despondancy, however compared with the same figures at start of season for Winter 07/08 of -4pc, and with the mergers of MyTravel/Thomas Cook and First Choice/Thomsonfly it may not be quite as bad as it might have been.
For a comparision STN is showing -6.2pc on movments and -2.9pc on seats.
Finally having walked to the airport this afternoon - and being caught in the downpour - I did wonder whether I had brought upon myself a case of the LVPs, but at least we were on 23R!!
Now that might seem like gloom and despondancy, however compared with the same figures at start of season for Winter 07/08 of -4pc, and with the mergers of MyTravel/Thomas Cook and First Choice/Thomsonfly it may not be quite as bad as it might have been.
For a comparision STN is showing -6.2pc on movments and -2.9pc on seats.
Finally having walked to the airport this afternoon - and being caught in the downpour - I did wonder whether I had brought upon myself a case of the LVPs, but at least we were on 23R!!
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Link JB etc
The decision to withdraw (or add) any airfield facility is not taken lightly, only after careful discussion and hazard analysis involving Operations and ATC. In the case of RET 'JB' the LVP scenario was considered, and, as someone else has pointed out, no one could recall when 05L (or 06L) was last used in LVP. The negligible surface wind usually experienced in LVP means that the runway direction can be chosen, and invariably this is 23. Even when 05 is used, JB can be problematic because it delivers arriving aircraft straight into the taxiway bottleneck at the end of Pier A. This can create conflicts and require co-ordnation between Air and Ground controllers, often with next to no notice. So JB is not the capacity panacea in LVP or normal Ops, it is better for aircraft to vacate further east, allowing more routing and sequencing options in the T3 area - an area which is set to gain more stands. It is for these reasons that JB has been deleted from the Airfield Masterplan.
All-day operations on 05R-23L, and the upgrade of 05R to CAT III are development objectives in the Masterplan with no fixed time-scale. Such developments, whilst operationally attractive, have to be financially justified. The business case for both makes more sense as traffic grows. Hopefully it will soon.
All-day operations on 05R-23L, and the upgrade of 05R to CAT III are development objectives in the Masterplan with no fixed time-scale. Such developments, whilst operationally attractive, have to be financially justified. The business case for both makes more sense as traffic grows. Hopefully it will soon.
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The works currently taking place in T2 are the start of the redevelopment scheme, which is basically mirroring what is happening in T1. By July, everything in T2 beyond checkin will be airside. The hordings that are currently in checkin is where the new escalators and lifts will take passengers up to the new & larger security search area where the Atlantic Suite previously was. Many of the shops are closed on the current landside concourse because this is being transformed into a European style shopping 'Piazza' which will be the first area passengers arrive at once theyve cleared security and dropped back down to that level. The current OBC will be taken over by Alpha.
Sorry not the question although I admit badly expressed. Beloved was sent home early from work today (T2DF) because the Law closed the shop, they had already closed off the area from the DF shop to the higher numbered stands and were extending. There were Pongos in attendance. One has presumed a suspect item found but would have liked to know, she looses money you see !
Loose with her money eh? Send her over.
Further entrenchment by the ailing Central Wings, now sees ALL MAN flights withdrawn. MAN no longer on the Central Wings route map.
Correct me if Im wrong, but there now are no flights at all from MAN to anywhere in Poland.
Correct me if Im wrong, but there now are no flights at all from MAN to anywhere in Poland.
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Ahhh sorry, getting a little confused. I know what you're talking about now! T2 airside was closed for several hours yesterday after a suspect package was found. The bomb squad were called in. I don't know the full details but what does confuse me a little is that I believe the supposed device was in one of the airside offices at ramp level. So how anything suspecious got through security and into an airline/handling agent office is a mystery. Someone else on here may have some more detailed information.
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Correct me if Im wrong, but there now are no flights at all from MAN to anywhere in Poland.
Frantic meetings are apparently ongoing with LO/WW/FR and even W6! Seems MAplc are keen not to allow the grass to grow under their feet on this one!
My bet is on FR.....
Frantic meetings are apparently ongoing with LO/WW/FR and even W6! Seems MAplc are keen not to allow the grass to grow under their feet on this one!
My bet is on FR.....
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MAN the next FR base? Vuelo & MUFC fan do you have some inside information on this one? I think it will happen at some point but not just yet. However, FR are due to announce four new routes from MAN any time soon and I wouldn't bet against them having a predominantely Polish feel!
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Apparently the Oasis Hong Kong flights have been loaded into Hong Kong Airports website starting 3 July 2008.
Flights on Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday and Sunday with flight numbers O8501 and O8502 according to another site
Flights on Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday and Sunday with flight numbers O8501 and O8502 according to another site
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I will still not be convinced with this until you can buy tickets on their website. Perhaps I should not be convinced until it touches down on 23 given the Cathay fiasco last time.
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The whole Cathay business fell apart because they tried the impossible - routing through Russia and getting 5th freedom traffic rights. It was inevitable that this would run into difficulties.
As far as I'm aware there are no such difficult bilateral issues with Oasis and their proposed routing but if there are, I'm sure the MAN team will fight for the rights - as indeed they did on the Cathay business.
However, I agree that it will be better to see bookings available on their website rather than MAN just being a proposed point. But the fact that it has now just appeared on the Hong Kong Airport website must be progress.
So fingers crossed for an announcement soon if the start date of July is to be successful.
Suzeman
The whole Cathay business fell apart because they tried the impossible - routing through Russia and getting 5th freedom traffic rights. It was inevitable that this would run into difficulties.
As far as I'm aware there are no such difficult bilateral issues with Oasis and their proposed routing but if there are, I'm sure the MAN team will fight for the rights - as indeed they did on the Cathay business.
However, I agree that it will be better to see bookings available on their website rather than MAN just being a proposed point. But the fact that it has now just appeared on the Hong Kong Airport website must be progress.
So fingers crossed for an announcement soon if the start date of July is to be successful.
Suzeman
