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Old 14th Dec 2007, 09:07
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Why not fly NCL-LGW with J2? Three times a day M-F and daily SS, got to be better than the drive!
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As I live virtually on top of DTVA it doesn't make sense to drive and then pay for parking at NCL.

Also, driving North for a journey to the South doesn't appeal
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Just thought a 3hr journey for £40 + parking would be better than 5-6hrs in the car or the £108 on the train. Return petrol must be about the same?
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Old 14th Dec 2007, 11:46
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Like he said, why go north to go south? I wish every person in our catchment area would realise that this is completely pointless.
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Old 14th Dec 2007, 12:01
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I think they do realise, but they're never given the choice.

Anyone needing some light lunchtime amusement should read HL's self congratulatory press release on the airport website about the increase in passenger numbers last month. A pre-emptive strike perhaps, before the full years figures are published, which by the looks of it, will be down to around 740K, a drop of around 17%-20% on 2006.
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Old 14th Dec 2007, 12:04
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That's true, is there any particular reason travel agents don't seem to give people the choice and they always seem to offer NCL first? You'd think it would be in their best interests to offer MME before NCL since it's closer?
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North first etc...... If its shorter cheaper than car and train so what!!!

I regular fly east to fly west i.e. USA via AMS

Travel agents probably offer NCL for the choice of available holidays, I am sure if the holiday was available from MME then they would offer it. They get the same commission! Afew years ago when Airtours went big time into MME they upped the commission to travel agents to sell MME every travel agent that year tryed to push mme first! Airtour's base is long gone from mme as is Thomsonfly's, says alot really!
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Anyone needing some light lunchtime amusement should read HL's self congratulatory press release on the airport website about the increase in passenger numbers last month. A pre-emptive strike perhaps, before the full years figures are published, which by the looks of it, will be down to around 740K, a drop of around 17%-20% on 2006.
Well I must add to the cynacism of DB5. I have questioned Hughie's ability on a number of postings and nothing that has occurred subsequently has changed my view that he spends most of his working day in his sand pit. This bit of propaganda would have done Goebels proud. To illustrate yes Nov 06 was a disaster at c.35k pax, but to draw any conclusion is utterly pointless other than that at 41.5k pax in Nov 07 couldn't be any worse, though perhaps Hughie no doubt chose not to state that it was only 76% of that of Nov 05 at 54.5k pax. What is not needed here is reasons for this whether the local football team were in Europe or whatever, it's ALL history and now irrelevant ! The issue is that the pr*tt in charge doesn't know what he is doing, and it would appear surrounds himself with indivuals who are hardly a threat. I'll end on this quote from Emma who ! (Hughie's neighbour?) which should give everone loads of comfort
...Added Marketing and Promotions Manager Emma Ormerod The increase in passengers can be attributed to the increasing range of destinations available from Durham Tees Valley this winter bringing more choice for passengers.
Inspiring ?
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Old 14th Dec 2007, 15:20
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You're on your soap box again!

Every travel agent I have ever been in, an that is quite a few, ask questions before offering anything.
Where do you want to go to?
Duaration?
Dates?
Flight preferneces - airport, time etc?

If you say you want to travel from DTV as a first choice, then any agent worth their commission will offer this first.
Sadly though, if a passenger wants choice, then it's likely to be the airport up the road, the one down the M1 or the one across the M62.

Simjock - you've got it just about right.
You'd not save any (or very little) time going to NCL for a flight to LGW. It would be 2.5 -3 hours from leaving DTVA before you were in the air, 1hr 15 before you get off in LGW, another 20 mins+ before you could leave the airport (and that's only if you are forst off with the requirement of having your photo taken before you can enter the terminal); and then any travel time you have at that end. And all that assumes that there is a flight time to suit your preferred departure time from DTVA.

How many people traqve to LHR or LGW to then go North again before crossing the pond to the US?
Much quicker, if flight times permit, to go to DUB and then direct over to the US.

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Old 14th Dec 2007, 20:59
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I wouldn't go to Newcastle to fly to London, by the time you have faced the western bypass, you could be halfway there by car.

It would make sense to go to the USA via Dublin, IF the flights were timed to connect and IF there were sensible fares.

The link through AMS allows KLM to do consolidated fares which mean business class flights for around £2k, rather than the £5k through Heathrow.

Don't think there are any cheap flights from DUB. Maybe an opportunity for someone like Eos?
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Old 18th Dec 2007, 09:45
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Durham Tees to Alicante 3x weekly for summer 2008
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Old 18th Dec 2007, 10:01
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Well I often wondered whether or not Ryanair would ever operate this route, but I doubted it because I didn't think there was enough room for both Ryanair and Flyglobespan...or could they be trying to replace TOM on the route? Even so I think they will now force GSM off the route.
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Old 18th Dec 2007, 10:59
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I can see Alicante in the Ryanair search engine but it wasn't part of the 50 route announcement today.

Has it been announced locally yet?
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Old 18th Dec 2007, 11:18
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Its now showing as bookable and on DTV's own website.
Interesting competition for GSM or will they announce they are to reduce frequency/axe the summer 08 route altogether in favour of somewhere else.
How happy are Ryanair with MME - am guessing they are to have announced a third route and wonder if more will come.

Obviously slowly but surely is the way to go - it would be good to get Rome back or something new which isnt being offered by one of our exisiting carriers - and its not hard to stick a pin in the map and find a place we dont serve!
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Old 18th Dec 2007, 11:51
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Yep good news from FR, be interesting to see how GSM react to this, if at all. Looking on the TCX site it seems they are to add back in Alicante too so this would give us 7 flights a week to ALC, which I believe is still actually less than last summer!

Are GSM still to announce a load more new routes? The Saturday Jersey still doesn't fit into the based aircraft, and I have heard Paphos will be going ahead There are a few routes that I thought would work, Rome, Corfu being one of them (has now been dropped ex EDI and GLA tho ) and a few others - surprised we haven't got a flight to Murcia! Everyone else seems to have one! Also I would expect to see Ibiza back! Pula seems to have done well last summer as they've added it back into EDI and GLA.....could we see it return next summer?

As for more Ryanair routes, may take a while, but with 11 flights a week now (from March) it's nice to see them slowly but surely building a mini base here! Some that could work include Rome, Stockholm, Cork
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Old 18th Dec 2007, 12:32
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Originally Posted by Jamesair
I can see Alicante in the Ryanair search engine but it wasn't part of the 50 route announcement today.

Has it been announced locally yet?
According to the airport press release it is part of the 50 route announcement, but when you check the Ryanair website they're not including it as part of the 50 route announcement - it might as well be though.
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Old 18th Dec 2007, 13:31
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Thanks for all your suggestions
problem now sorted.. have resigned from the job and am going back to work at Gatwick At least from their I can get to my other destination SOF thanks to squeezy jet.
Saw some 'suits' poking around hangar 1 at DTV today, does that mean its been let ? one of the suits had an orange badge

Edited to add:

Anyone want to buy a flat 5 minutes from DTVA

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Old 18th Dec 2007, 13:54
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Good news for customers this morning, but I'm worried about the longer term effect. FR will always struggle at MME because of the 738 capacity...it will be more difficult for them to make money. I'm worried about doing anything that will make GSM think again about their commitment to us and this announcement won't do that commitment any favours. In the short term though, its an increase in capacity (good news) and competition for the punters (great news). Let's hope GSM react positively.
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Old 18th Dec 2007, 15:04
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My thoughts exactly Pembo, would for been nice to have seen a new destination instead.
On the controller front there are big problems ahead, just recently 2 controllers have left with a 3rd on his way and more could follow. The aiport is never going to attract controllers when their top controllers are struggling to make £55000 yet Inverness were advertising for controllers to start on £62000. Then you have the problem of the managment offering ATC jobs at higher than the existing controllers, no wonder the ATC staff are pissed off. If this is Peels idea of going about moving the rada operations to LPL then their mad. The controllers at LPL are not use to the type of operations that happen at MME.
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Old 18th Dec 2007, 16:08
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Aren't we?? We do Doncaster Radar, so why not Tees-side??
Please explain to me why LPL Controllers couldn't do it?
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