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Old 30th Jan 2009, 23:12
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It's being dimantled to make way for the Sven Investments development
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Old 31st Jan 2009, 09:23
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Approach Lighting

..just another observation, when you look at the new replacement lights that have been put up on the approach, they are a lot smaller than the old lights, perhaps even these ultra efficient LED lights ? If the approach is not being uprated to CAT II/III why then do you need a new electrical substation to feed smaller more efficient lights ? what was wrong with the old supply ? just seems a waste of money to me on an airport with declining usage.
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Old 31st Jan 2009, 11:20
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I think the first supply was first maintained by Canadian electricians, ie during the war!
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Old 2nd Feb 2009, 00:19
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The whole place is one little joke, I want to go skiing in the next few weeks.
What ski flights are on offer from MME ?


NONE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 2nd Feb 2009, 08:44
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You can Ski on the airfield today!
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Old 2nd Feb 2009, 14:22
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I want to go skiing in the next few weeks.
What ski flights are on offer from MME ?
as said none from MME / DTV but then the positive for yourself is still sufficient availability from NCL to satisfy the demand of the region, albeit you may have to travel about an hour, but then you do have the added advantage of CHOICE. Loco EZY to GVA & many T/O's offerings to GVA, INN, SZG & possibly others. Petrol & Car Park you'd probably incur these costs if was service from DTV unless you planned to walk. This is not meant to be a promotion for NCL, but a classic example as to why unfortunately DTV has "lost". Even a "proper" marketing department as opposed to "the girls at DTV" would have their work cut out to encourage anyone to set up a service against this back ground, & in reality then who could blame them?
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Old 2nd Feb 2009, 19:55
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cancellations

Can anyone explain why so many flights were cancelled into MME today due to the snow when just down the coast-with similar weather conditions-HUY was unaffected.

Never realised MME was so intrinsically linked to the fortunes of MFC-as one heads for relegation so does the other!!

As for ski flights, TOM have been operating ski flights to Grenoble for several weeks but for a change they were very poorly advertised!unless of course you like to watch teletext p469 you were unlikely to catch them!
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Old 2nd Feb 2009, 21:06
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Flying from NCL is not a positive, it is a 'have to do' because of the lack of flights from MME.
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Old 2nd Feb 2009, 23:24
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I think you will find that the cancelations were down to individual airlines rather than the airport which makes a change I suppose.They obviously had destination problems, misplaced aircraft and crews or not high enough certification for the conditions etc.
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Old 3rd Feb 2009, 12:07
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Can anyone explain why so many flights were cancelled into MME today due to the snow when just down the coast-with similar weather conditions-HUY was unaffected.
I think HUY had a couple of cancellations also... At least one AMS and ABZ flight each.
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Old 3rd Feb 2009, 15:36
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Wrong!!

Sorry Paarmo,enjoy your posts as you are pulling in the same direction as the rest as us but.....many of the cancellations from Teesside(sorry DTV) were down to the airport.

Amsterdam's and Aberdeen were untouched so I think you will find the airport didn't open(for the third time this winter) due to the inability and lack of resources to clear the runway and taxyways. After all one little tractor(I watched it) isnt going to make much difference is it? BMI did suffer because of Heathrow.

Looking at other threads its interesting that Newcastle did suffer a lot of cancellations but that was a result of other airports down south.They worked well to keep runway open and as a result picked up BA diversions from Dacca,Nassau and Philidelphia.Sorry to say it but they are a proper airport and its recognised throughout the industry. Wonder if BA looked here!!!!!!!

Lets face it we are cheap and chatty!!

Annoyed in that order
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Old 3rd Feb 2009, 16:04
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Well, we've known for months, but for those of you who still saw that glimmer of hope, Flyglobespan have confirmed their final departure:

Airline confirms final departure from airport (From The Northern Echo)

Although it's interesting that they're saying they may come back in future, can't see it somehow.
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Old 3rd Feb 2009, 17:28
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yes they are gone and taking with them over 100,000 pax
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Old 3rd Feb 2009, 21:12
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And unlike when baby left, there is no other UK carrier who's business model suits a DTVA base operation.

I'm surprised the TFS route that they launched before the base hasn't survived though, with it being separate from the base?
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Old 3rd Feb 2009, 21:59
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Still think Flybe fits DTVA perfectly but alas while they have the current crop of destinations out of Newcastle and Leeds there's very little chance of them looking at DTV!

Don't suppose anyone else has heard any rumours? Going to be a quiet summer by the looks of it. Of course once pax are lost to Newcastle/Leeds its going to be very hard to tempt them back.
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Old 4th Feb 2009, 09:06
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I don't know - I think people from the Teesside area would love to be able to fly from their airport if the destinations and prices were right. So they'd happily be tempted back from NCL or LBA.
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Old 4th Feb 2009, 09:23
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Several years ago the tour operators increased flights from Edinburgh, which were very low compared to Glasgow, as many people from Edinburgh were complaining -why do we have to travel to Glasgow? The local newspaper said that now was the time to book from Edinburgh, in other words use it or lose it. The result was that Edinburgh people used the flights and Edinburgh has never looked back, granted the low cost operators greatly helped the passenger numbers. I notice that something similar is happening at LBA, and that the great number of Yorkshire people using MAN is being pulled back somewhat with the success of Jet2 and TCX. Is there a lesson for the people of Teesside?
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Old 4th Feb 2009, 12:30
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You can’t use what isn’t being offered in the first place. Surely one of the basic rules of any successful business is to know your customers requirements?
It may come as a surprise to DTVA management that there are other countries in Europe to which people from Teesside might want to travel. There must be thousands like me who have no desire whatsoever to travel to Alicante on a frequent basis. Fine for the minority that do, but useless to everyone else.

I’m sure someone will correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t know of any open public consultation process that DTVA has ever used. If they did, it might provide a meaningful indication to operators and tour companies as to destinations where 2.7 million potential customers in the DTVA catchment area (DTV figs not mine) might want to travel if they were given any sort of choice in the matter.
Customers aren’t going to use their local airport, shops, theatre, etc. if the ‘owner’ doesn’t first of all find out what they want, and then do everything possible to provide at least some of it, safe in the knowledge that they’re at least using customer driven opinions.
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Old 4th Feb 2009, 13:23
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Its a bit daft when the airport quote 2.7million passengers live within 1 hour of Teesside. Of those 2.7m more than 50% live within 1/2 an hour of newcastle. Which probably takes us back to the start of this thread (how many years ago)
Historically Teesside used to do rather well with flights to the cheaper destinations, Yugoslavia being well used in their pre war years, Northern spain, recently Turkey and Bulgaria.That's probably because per capita Teessiders spend slightly less on holidays and generally don't favour the more exotic destinations. Employment levels and wages account for the differences in travel patterns when compared with the more affluent parts of the country. Globespan had the right business model a small number of cheapish destinations but messed up because of poor reputation for reliability (go back through the Gazette archives) and, as I read it from other threads ,lack of airframes to base down here.
This summer will be quiet, but maybe Ryanair will be encouraged if the Alicante and Girona flights sell well and perhaps extend the programme in 2010.
One thing I can't see is Peel Holdings chucking any money at facilities improvement.
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