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Old 1st Dec 2008, 12:32
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It must miff Peel not owning the whole site. The new security fence is partly to stop punters useing the Spar hotel car park and walking to the terminal.
I wonder what petty plans they have to stop this new development?

If you go down to where hanger 5 used to be and see the mess you would think Peel would be happy to see it cleaned up. If my neighbours house was a derelict eyesore I would jump at anything to get it cleaned up.
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Old 1st Dec 2008, 13:44
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11 office blocks of airport related development to commence next summer
........on Teesside, at an airport with an ever dwindling number of flights, in the middle of the worst recession in 30 years, where the banks won't lend to developers at any rate of interest, where big businesses are shutting up shop almost monthly..??????????
About as likely as Globespan returning with a brand new A380 to Sydney twice daily
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Old 5th Dec 2008, 23:15
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Oh dear! an inch of sleety snow causes the airport to close. It's a good job we are not in Iceland (financial problems apart ). It's not as if they didn't know it was coming. Mind you the Official Met Office Forecast for my area bearing in mind I am less than 2 miles from an official weather station bore absolutely no relation to what actually happened. I looked at a Dutch site with precipitation and wind direction and speed sites and it was spot on to within 20minutes. Good job weathermen are not paid by results or Bob Johnson would be busking in the Dundas Arcade in Middlesbrough.
That's if he could find a space between MME senior management.
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Old 6th Dec 2008, 06:17
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I have been looking at the railway station usage stats and Tees-Side Airport Station is placed at 2510 out of 2520 stations with only 85 passengers a year being recorded as using the station. This is no doubt due to the fact that I can only see one train a day stopping at the station.

So why does the airport authority bus passengers to Darlington, a journey of 27 minutes when there is a railway station on site that is not used due to a lack of passengers when the journey would take 8 minutes?

Surely an airport station would be at the top of the pile on a wish list for most airports?
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Old 6th Dec 2008, 07:44
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It's one train a week!!! Saturday I think. Quite surprised there was 85 passengers a year because its two miles to the terminal now they have put the new fence up.

The money man was to blame for the snow clearing. I don't think income from the flights balanced out against, staff coming in early on double time to clear snow, or so I have been informed. the passengers!!
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Old 6th Dec 2008, 10:04
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airport station

Out of interest how do you actually get from the station platform to the terminal? Unlike grown up airports their are no carpark shuttle buses and I have never seen a courtesy coach driving about.
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Old 6th Dec 2008, 10:17
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Taxi or walk!
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Old 6th Dec 2008, 12:00
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Looking at Google earth the station seems to be on top of the airport. With a bit of money the station could be upgraded and I would have thought a shuttle bus could run a feeder service to meet the trains. If there was a demand then the trains would stop.
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Old 6th Dec 2008, 12:06
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I worked at tees-side airport 30 years ago and the station was used then and was quite popular, mainly with airport staff and passengers. The shuttle bus used to meet every train then, and it was free
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Old 6th Dec 2008, 12:52
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In the good old days when common sense prevailed every train was met by an electric bus driven by one of two old guys, train about every twenty minutes.

Then the airport removed the bus and asked the local bus company to add the station on its route which it did. I think good old "Maggie" and her rail privatisation finished things off as the train operators wanted to cut the journey time so most of the stations on route got the chop. One of the futuristic plans is a new metro to the airport but when.

I wonder how much it would cost to bring back the electric bus pay an old guy minimum wage and re-open the station, or would they lose carpark revenue.

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Old 6th Dec 2008, 13:55
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DTVA Train Station

British Rail / National Rail or whatever they are called this week would like to close the station. It would cost them too much money to close the thing down, so the cheaper option is to have 1 train stop a week.

A few years ago every train either stopped at the station, or you could give the driver a hand signal, and the train would stop & let you on.

I guess the latter stopped when too many people gave the drivers the wrong type of hand signal too often
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Old 7th Dec 2008, 21:51
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Athens Monday 8th December

Anybody know any details about the arrival at 8am from Athens?
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Old 7th Dec 2008, 22:00
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Yes its an Antonov An-124 apparently bringing in Lynx helicopters to go to Dishforth. Presume its bringing them from somewhere in the sand pit via Athens (fuel stop?).
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Old 9th Dec 2008, 15:16
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Fly Globespan.
Heard they given three months notice to DTVA.

"Wanted" low cost charter airline.
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Old 9th Dec 2008, 22:54
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If it's true then it's not surprising. They make a lot more money leasing their aircraft than running MME ALC type routes. I believe they have also got a lucrative MOD contract recently. They don't seem to fit into any slot really either dedicated long haul or locost short routes operator. Their aircraft spend too many hours on the ground to be a loco and their long haul operations have had horrendous problems over the last two years but they insist that they are profitable.
MME was always a side show for them and they must be using the credit crunch as an excuse to get out.
Still look on the bright side it opens up the MME TFS and ALC routes to a new operator...Kazakstanair or Middlesbrough Airways perhaps.
Remember the glass is always half full.
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Old 10th Dec 2008, 12:51
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paarmo - the way things are at the minute we're in danger of even loosing the half full glass!
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Old 10th Dec 2008, 13:09
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Yes but there is still a long stretch of tarmac available......perhaps Top Gear may be interested in relocating from Kent.
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Old 10th Dec 2008, 13:43
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Top Gear would be interested in relocating from Kent, if they wern't based at Dunsfold in Surrey
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Old 10th Dec 2008, 13:52
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Does Stig have a cousin from Middlesborough ?
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Old 10th Dec 2008, 14:07
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yup... His name is Smog
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