DURHAM TEES VALLEY AIRPORT - 4
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I read in here that there is speculation that Ryanair may open a new base in the north of England, while i hadnt heard that I cant see it being NCL. Copenhagen airport own NCL and they dont do the type of sweetheart deals that FR want and in addition, they are very committed to EZY they said that before.
If its a NE base MME would be a better bet. However, I held the view that FR would launch base at BOH and then DSA . So Doncaster Sheffield is my gut feeling on next base. BOH Has just happened.
We will see. I hope that you guys at MME get some good news this year, but it is reassuring that bmi are staying I thought most short domestic flights would be axed.
If its a NE base MME would be a better bet. However, I held the view that FR would launch base at BOH and then DSA . So Doncaster Sheffield is my gut feeling on next base. BOH Has just happened.
We will see. I hope that you guys at MME get some good news this year, but it is reassuring that bmi are staying I thought most short domestic flights would be axed.
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EI-Bud - agree with you that the appropriate sweatner may not be available from NCL to encourage FR but the airports committment to EZY would not stop them getting FR in look for a further example look how hard they worked to get LS in.
As things stand I would be suprised to see FR come to any NE base whether it be NCL, MME or LBA, for a while at least anyway. However of these 3, although my loyalty lies with NCL, I would have thought that MME would be the favourite. LBA, in my opinion is a non starter, as they wont want to upset LS as the airport are given LS long hauls ambitions from LBA.
As things stand I would be suprised to see FR come to any NE base whether it be NCL, MME or LBA, for a while at least anyway. However of these 3, although my loyalty lies with NCL, I would have thought that MME would be the favourite. LBA, in my opinion is a non starter, as they wont want to upset LS as the airport are given LS long hauls ambitions from LBA.
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Originally Posted by EI-BUD
I hope that you guys at MME get some good news this year, but it is reassuring that bmi are staying I thought most short domestic flights would be axed.
With regards to Ryanair, if they follow their business model then MME and DSA are more likely as opposed to NCL and LBA, simply because they're the smaller airports of the region, and as has already been said, they'll probably get a sweeter deal.
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Just a rumour i heard, Hugh Lang is to move into the Peel group itself, Kerry is to become the MD and the new operations manager is going to be someone with no operations experience. Just a rumour but an interesting one!
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Just a rumour i heard, Hugh Lang is to move into the Peel group itself, Kerry is to become the MD and the new operations manager is going to be someone with no operations experience.
, I mean what experience would an airport CEO (even a complete plonker) have that covers building sites....
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Isn't Hugh Lang just running DSA until a permanent replacement is found? I thought he was running both.
papa oscar please be more specific, how has Kerry got more interest? I'd assumed she'd be worse than Hugh?
papa oscar please be more specific, how has Kerry got more interest? I'd assumed she'd be worse than Hugh?
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What I believe is going to happen is that Hugh in the near future will become the overall airports director for Peel. What I heard on the grape vine was that the MD at Robin Hood was not willing to work under Hugh so left.
Kerry is probably going to be worse at running the airport than Hugh, at least Hugh had experience of running an airport prior to his appointment at MME
Kerry is probably going to be worse at running the airport than Hugh, at least Hugh had experience of running an airport prior to his appointment at MME
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I flew into MME the other day and got chatting with a couple of former colleagues. I was told that Aviance are looking at closing MME and are in talks with Servisair about transferring their current operation to them.
This is a blow and having a monopoly handling agent would not be good in my opinion. If Aviance do shut up shop I would like to see someone like Menzies come along and take over.
Any more information on this would be appreciated.
This is a blow and having a monopoly handling agent would not be good in my opinion. If Aviance do shut up shop I would like to see someone like Menzies come along and take over.
Any more information on this would be appreciated.
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Anything actually happening here??
Its OH so quiet..Is there any news of any worth at all?
I see DTV down to 25th place in UK airport passenger figures..behind the might of the IOM now..can it get any worse??
I see DTV down to 25th place in UK airport passenger figures..behind the might of the IOM now..can it get any worse??
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Sadly, the volumes at DTV make it hard work for the ground handling companies. If one does close then I doubt if any of the other big boys (Menzies or Swissport) will come in. It is not long ago that Servisair were looking for a way out.
A monopoly on the current volumes could actually improve the service for the airlines and allow a company to turn a profit.
Which one will stay?
Think your thought is probably right with the current operators.
Sadly, the volumes at DTV make it hard work for the ground handling companies. If one does close then I doubt if any of the other big boys (Menzies or Swissport) will come in. It is not long ago that Servisair were looking for a way out.
A monopoly on the current volumes could actually improve the service for the airlines and allow a company to turn a profit.
Which one will stay?
Think your thought is probably right with the current operators.
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I am sorry Groundhog but there is no such thing as a good monopoly. Do you not remember the days before telecommunications were privatised ? Telephone calls were expensive and it took 6 to 9 months to get a telephone fitted in your home. I could give further examples including BEA and BOAC who were the forerunners of BA. Monopolies raise prices and reduce service EVERY time.
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In principle I would agree your sentiment when relating to large businesses covering wide areas, however, there are lots of examples where monopolies work well in small market areas and, DTV IS a SMALL market area.
Free market competition does not always raise standards and does not always reduce prices.
At DTV a monopoly would:
Raise prices - marginally, yes it would happen but it HAS to happen to allow the ground handling companies to invest in people and equipment. Currently the rate of return (way less than current interest rates) means that they pay minimal wages so have difficulty in attracting and keeping good individuals and have no money to invest in good GSE to improve the service to their customers.
Reduce service levels?
Hard to imagine that this would happen. A better resourced unit is better prepared to deal with the issues that come their way. This comes down to the unit is managed; and good management costs money.
Just the thoughts of someone who has a few years 'doing the business' at airports.
GH
In principle I would agree your sentiment when relating to large businesses covering wide areas, however, there are lots of examples where monopolies work well in small market areas and, DTV IS a SMALL market area.
Free market competition does not always raise standards and does not always reduce prices.
At DTV a monopoly would:
Raise prices - marginally, yes it would happen but it HAS to happen to allow the ground handling companies to invest in people and equipment. Currently the rate of return (way less than current interest rates) means that they pay minimal wages so have difficulty in attracting and keeping good individuals and have no money to invest in good GSE to improve the service to their customers.
Reduce service levels?
Hard to imagine that this would happen. A better resourced unit is better prepared to deal with the issues that come their way. This comes down to the unit is managed; and good management costs money.
Just the thoughts of someone who has a few years 'doing the business' at airports.
GH
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Can I just ask if MME have heating in the terminal building? I was there on Sunday for the GSM061 to ALC, as if it wasn't bad enough being delayed, but it was bloody freezing in there. I know it's not the busiest airport in the UK and may have to cut corners, but that was ridiculous.
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Luke0705, what do you mean by "Good news from flyglobespan!"? I know it's 23:09, and I've just got back from the first of 5 pantomime performances in which I'm stage assistant, plus I've had a couple of drinks with the cast in the local boozer, but despite all of that, I think I would remember anything to do with GSM at MME that would provoke such a comment - have I missed something?
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http://www.durhamteesvalleyairport.c...d=67&month=Feb is what I found on the Durham Tees Valley website. Seems like bookings are doing very well...excellent news!! 
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