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Old 16th Jan 2007, 10:53
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According to the KLM and Skyteam schedules, the MME-AMS goes up to 4 rotations for the period April - June. Strangely, it isn't there in July and is infact only there for this 3 month period.

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Old 18th Jan 2007, 10:37
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i could be clutching at straws here but now BMI have released an EMB aircraft at LBA from its route to CDG is there any slim chance of them sending it to us at MME, and hopefully not just to operate to LHR. As we dont anymore have a route to CDG and Flyglobespan didnt add it to their base announcement of routes and having heard the pax loads on Baby werent too bad could this be a possible option or is the North east a bit flooded with services to CDG, especially as Jet2 are supposedly going to add capacity in BMI's absence?

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Old 18th Jan 2007, 10:55
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If they do I doubt it will head to CDG, i'm sure the news release I saw was that they were pulling out of CDG totally.

The ERJ has to go somewhere though, or will it just be used for the new LBA/CPH instead?
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Old 18th Jan 2007, 10:59
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LBA-CPH is only once daily so won't use the CDG aircraft. I thinkit will replace an EDI flight which will be moved to a new EDI based aircraft
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Old 19th Jan 2007, 12:09
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Lot's of diversions in yesterday and probably again today and next week as well due to weather, plus, rumours that on either Sunday/Monday a special flight could be arriving at MME which will be either a Gulfstream G450, a Boeing BBJ or even a Boeing 777, so a few things to look out for in the coming days.
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Old 19th Jan 2007, 16:57
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Mme - Cdg

Personally UKLad007 speaking as a francophile I would love to think that BD might start a regional service to CDG but I would think that this would go against the grain of the company's decision to pull out of CDG and any hope of such a based aircraft would surely be given to JER over CDG though given GSM announcing this route even this would seem slim.

My bet is that the spare EMB will be given to GLA, EDI, ABZ or MAN and taken up with increased frequencies to established routes
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Old 20th Jan 2007, 10:45
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Hey folks, I'm a twr/app controller, I'm thinking of applying to DTV after spotting the recent ad ... any controllers wanna pm me? Just a few Q's about DTV and Peel airports ... T's & C's etc

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Old 20th Jan 2007, 20:46
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The BD345 re-appears soon with an 0550 or 0600 departure ! This is only for two weeks before going back to 2145. Apparently due to the CDG slots being freed up. Come on bmi, stop mucking everyone about.
God knows what they're going to do to the summer schedule.

I have heard the BD Reus charter is confirmed for Monday lunchtimes in the summer, in at 1310 and out at 1410.
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Old 20th Jan 2007, 20:59
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BMI

I really do wash my hands with BD-What is their medium to long term development plan? To keep chopping and changing routes, bases, aircraft, times until some miracle happens either in the form of a takeover or financial success? It smacks to me of losing the plot with introducing this frequency for a 2 week period-I am already puzzled why they would drop all routes to CDG and this 5.50am departure from MME is equally baffling!!

Anyone know what equipment the REUS rotation will be on?

Also, is the FCA Grenoble flight a one off today?
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Old 20th Jan 2007, 21:11
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FCA ski flight to Grenoble went out the last 2 weeks also, so tomorrow will make it 3 departures in a row.... better than last year!

As for BD, I think that an early morning departure from here would be fairly popular, they really do need to seriously look at changing the MME times.
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Old 21st Jan 2007, 09:18
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bmi

With regards to bmi, they cut all CDG routes because they weren't competing well enough against the LCC's; there's no point in keeping routes that aren't making money.

But yes, they are messing us around, it's back to three times daily for the summer, and bmi seriously need to look at the times, and more importantly, invest in some serious and clever local advertising - a TV advert would be best, but I doubt that will happen right?

The events of this summer could decide the future of the LHR route - come on bmi, do something positive! I hope for all A319's for the summer, but knowing our luck, we'll probably get an Embraer again on the morning run.

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Old 21st Jan 2007, 10:58
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Flyg Changes

Been some minor changes to the Flyglobespan schedule for the summer, now sees a third weekly Faro flight on a Friday afternoon.... as well as some minor time adjustments. There is still 1 flight on a Saturday afternoon (Mahon) that doesn't fit in with 2 gaps (Sat morning, Tue afternoon) so I guess that will just fall into the Sat morning gap. Therefore this would leave 1 gap on a Tuesday afternoon.....

Also looks like Pegasus won't be coming back on the Dalaman flight for First Choice/Thomas Cook as both seem to be saying it's not available.
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Old 21st Jan 2007, 12:46
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FCA Ski Flight

Just seen the FCA on finals into MME so does that make it yesterday and today then? Is this a weekly route or for just two weeks like last year?


As with regards to bmi, advertising would be great as the MME LHR is a great route to have that many a regioanl airport would love but i'm afraid an advert after the Tyne Tees weather with no mention of the actual route (Just the BMI name and website!)won't help!

For the average passenger who would use BMI to LHR, just knowing whether its 3 or 4 times a day and knowing the times (i.e a morning, lunchtime and evening) is paramount and makes you more likely to book with them than this constant chopping and changing which leaves people confused and unable to make concrete plans in the future. KLM seem to do this no probs at MME with only minor tweaks to the timetable and aircraft at the usual times u'd expect i.e. going from winter to summer timetable etc!

I'm sorry if BMI can't make CDG work it's worrying as from LHR they seem to offer low fares and many a passenger would be interlining to a star alliance partner. Ok at LBA its different but i thought BD was for the business traveller given its frequency of 3x daily and the 1 x daily Jet2 was for leisure as they could never afford the regional prices!
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Old 23rd Jan 2007, 15:13
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Cork and Newquay

Was just wondering if any airlines had looked at picking these routes up out of MME, both were fairly popular. These would be ideal for an airline like Flybe, Air Southwest or Aer Arran to take on. Also is there any possibility that these could in anyway be tied into some sort of based operation for an airline with Gatwick, Paris or Belfast. Maybe something for BMI or Flybe to look at!
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Old 23rd Jan 2007, 16:47
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Originally Posted by onion
Maybe something for BMI or Flybe to look at!
One of these days when I get really bored I'm going to have a look aound all the various airport threads and tot up exactly how many regional airports FlyBe is going to be the saviour of!

Methinks they've got an awful lot of work with the BA Connect deal before they go looking for trouble elsewhere...
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Old 23rd Jan 2007, 17:32
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Originally Posted by onion
Was just wondering if any airlines had looked at picking these routes up out of MME, both were fairly popular. These would be ideal for an airline like Flybe, Air Southwest or Aer Arran to take on. Also is there any possibility that these could in anyway be tied into some sort of based operation for an airline with Gatwick, Paris or Belfast. Maybe something for BMI or Flybe to look at!
I can only see Aer Arann picking up Cork, but they won't because they operate the route at LBA, which they would probably see MME-ORK as competing with themselves, and it doesn't fit GSM's route-structure. The only way I can see us getting Cork is if Jet2 launch the route from LBA, muscling Aer Arann out, then they may look at us. As for Newquay, when Air Southwest decides to expand, MME-NQY possibly via BRS should be right up their street. Other than a BHD service, Flybe probably won't touch us, and we definitely won't get anymore base operations in the near future.

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Old 24th Jan 2007, 10:39
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Yesterday an application was published on the CAA website for a scheduled service between DTV and Jersey by Flyglobespan to operate between 30th June and 27th October 2007.
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Old 24th Jan 2007, 12:06
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SWBKCB I think your being a little harsh. MME doesn't need a saviour. Just looking at the routes I suggested and being sensible about who may operate them. Anyway does Flybe being the saviour of regional airports include coming into NCL with a 4 aircraft base?
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Old 24th Jan 2007, 17:11
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Future routes ex MME

I agree with a lot of opinions here with regards future routes and have said so in previous posts but will throw my ideas open again:

definately can't see a new based operation in the near future. MME must see how GSM get on first as don't want to tip the boat and have too many routes for too few pax so...

BHD-will only be on a BE BHD based aircraft or-at a push-a MME T3 Jetstream

NQY/BRS-fits WOW perfectly and would bring back BRS into the network from MME but hard to fit this into winter AND summer so maybe summer NQY and BRS and winter BRS only?

CDG/ORY-only option would be GSM expanding (u never know even if not currently served by them elsewhere just look at JER) or very tenious but cityJet or EZY from their ORY base.

ORK- could only see GSM trying this one as agree Aer Arann would be stepping on their own toes here

CIA- come on FR it was popular and if they choose the right times and don't offer it from NCL/DSA/LBA it will draw a lot in from across the catchment area

LGW-do we need it?

Apart from these routes i really don't see any more routes are needed/sustainable. All have been tried just not served by the best operator/timings/aircraft
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Old 24th Jan 2007, 17:19
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I would rather see a BFS service before a BHD, probably a good one for Eastern to try but the airport management would have to ask them, and they have got about five more BAe Jetstream 41s due for delivery to them in the next few days, two of which were circuit bashing at MME in the form of G-CDYH and G-MAJZ, so they could do it. NQY for summer and BRS for winter would be ideal for Air Southwest, but they don't seem to be expanding at the moment. There's no suitable operators who will look at CDG or ORY from MME, GSM could try it but don't think it's likely, as for CIA, I believe GSM already serve Rome so I'm sure they could make it work from here and we definitely don't want LGW back yet, because it would finish LHR, and I'm sure people would rather see LHR recover, I know I would.

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