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You may well be right about subsidies, I don't know, but Manston is geographically isolated with very poor transport and road links and this means that perhaps the average fare charged can be a little higher as it prevents a significant road trip to other airports that might be considered to be close by (LGW etc).
I suspect that Southend has a much denser population close by than Manston may have but those same persons may also have a greater opportunity to use alternative airports such as LCY or STN. It is this threat that may have put Flybe off taking into consideration how their base at Norwich suffered.
Time will tell but I hope Southend does well.It shows good promise as a new base for EZY but for Flybe perhaps Manston offered them the chance to develop a base that would be more defendable, using smaller aircraft. Given how EUJet suffered, it is unlikely that the market is sufficient for larger aircraft and so it suits the Flybe model.
You may well be right about subsidies, I don't know, but Manston is geographically isolated with very poor transport and road links and this means that perhaps the average fare charged can be a little higher as it prevents a significant road trip to other airports that might be considered to be close by (LGW etc).
I suspect that Southend has a much denser population close by than Manston may have but those same persons may also have a greater opportunity to use alternative airports such as LCY or STN. It is this threat that may have put Flybe off taking into consideration how their base at Norwich suffered.
Time will tell but I hope Southend does well.It shows good promise as a new base for EZY but for Flybe perhaps Manston offered them the chance to develop a base that would be more defendable, using smaller aircraft. Given how EUJet suffered, it is unlikely that the market is sufficient for larger aircraft and so it suits the Flybe model.
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Aurigny (Guernsey based airline) run a once daily service from Jersey to Stansted in conjunction with Guernsey to Stansted. I shouldn't think it will affect them too much - lots of islanders use the service so they've got their customer base already cut out.
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In comparing SEN v LGW, it is worth bearing in mind that LGW is just over half the train journey time from Victoria, compared to SEN from Liv. St. LGW also has direct services to London Bridge & St P's, together with connections throughout much of the south east.
SEN is going to take pax mainly from STN, and it is going to serve the local market, so it is no surprise to see Easy in and BE out.
Who is going to operate CAX, I just can't see the point in flying to somewhere 1hr away from London compared to a direct train to Euston in just over 3 hrs. CAX is not NCL - much smaller population, and where's the big business? The Glasgow train line goes straight through, and it also serves the leisure demand for the Lake District.
SEN is going to take pax mainly from STN, and it is going to serve the local market, so it is no surprise to see Easy in and BE out.
Who is going to operate CAX, I just can't see the point in flying to somewhere 1hr away from London compared to a direct train to Euston in just over 3 hrs. CAX is not NCL - much smaller population, and where's the big business? The Glasgow train line goes straight through, and it also serves the leisure demand for the Lake District.
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The additional 20 minutes by train from SEN should be more than made up by the swift journey from plane to train at SEN compared with LGW, so the overall time will be similar. Take into account the ease of air traffic access to SEN from the east and it will be highly competitive for flights from Germany, Netherlands and eastern Europe.
Flights from SEN to Carlisle will no doubt serve Stobart's own business interests, but I would use them rather than the seven hour slog by motorway to get to Keswick which I have to do every few months now - not sure if there are enough other Lake District freaks among SE Essex's half a million population to support such flights though!
Flights from SEN to Carlisle will no doubt serve Stobart's own business interests, but I would use them rather than the seven hour slog by motorway to get to Keswick which I have to do every few months now - not sure if there are enough other Lake District freaks among SE Essex's half a million population to support such flights though!
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Not my pics, just borrowed from face.book. another week and i think the new extension will meet the old runway. a pic taken yesterday showing fast progress.The old road which ran past the church was only closed a month ago. The 4 cottages which sat on the bend are now gone.
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Just a thought, would Aer Lingus consider doing Dublin/Southend in its own right (i.e. rather than Aer Arann as Aer Lingus Regional) now that it has A319 about to go into service?
Would certainly be a London airport where they could avoid Ryanair.. Yes Ryanair could turn up the heat on the STN route by adding Frequency and and dropping prices, but for the catchment area around Southend would Aer Lingus go for that??
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Would certainly be a London airport where they could avoid Ryanair.. Yes Ryanair could turn up the heat on the STN route by adding Frequency and and dropping prices, but for the catchment area around Southend would Aer Lingus go for that??
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New radar tower! and below that the hotel so far (3 weeks in). The amount of work done over the last two years has been staggering. A few days ago we received a local advertising booklet with a feature on the new terminal, with pictures from the inside. Thats not far off being finished either! I might scan it and post here if anyone is interested.
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maliyahsdad2: I would certainly be interested in the scanned leaflet.
EI-BUD: A nice idea, which could work.
EI-BUD: A nice idea, which could work.
