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SNN-KRK leaves at 1635 on Wednesdays, return lands 1625 Sundays, both accessable by many buses. Similar situation with modlin.
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Departs SNN on Sundays @ 07.25, departs KRK Wednsday @ 20.45, as most peoples holidays start at w/e these times are not suitable for the Poles that I work for so they will be going on the aircoach to Dublin. Forget about them overnighting in a hotel in SNN, most of them send money home where they can and are really just about living above breadline.
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Some massive generalisations going on here. Personal experiences mean **** all regarding how many polish people are on a bus or whether they drive or not.
There is also quite a large Polish/ Eastern European population based in the Midwest and beyond, that have used the Cork services in the past, regardless of departure times, bus times etc. I am sure Ryanair would also have a fair idea of that breakdown based on previous bookings..
But hey, lets disregard all that and confine the SNN services to the dustbin before they start, in true Cork fashion.
There is also quite a large Polish/ Eastern European population based in the Midwest and beyond, that have used the Cork services in the past, regardless of departure times, bus times etc. I am sure Ryanair would also have a fair idea of that breakdown based on previous bookings..
But hey, lets disregard all that and confine the SNN services to the dustbin before they start, in true Cork fashion.
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To those who maintain Cork's runway will forever be a barrier to transatlantic, you should have seen this morning in Dublin Airport as both a United 757 and an Etihad 777 took off with ease from 16/34 which at 2,072m is 61m shorter than 17/35. Granted there was the helping hand of a 20kt wind on the nose but it shows what is possible.
Unfortunately that doesn't solve the more prosaic matter of whether such services are commercial...!
Unfortunately that doesn't solve the more prosaic matter of whether such services are commercial...!
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On the subject of Etihad, I hear that they are examining the feasibility of operating to another Irish airport. However, I strongly suspect that the airport in question is Belfast as it's also the third largest catchement in the UK without any form of Middle East service. Still we can always hope.
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The STN frequency to three times daily is a welcome piece of news, if the schedule stays as envisioned and LGW remains it would more or less cover the loss of Wizzair, I think?
. On the runway length problem is the wind is almost always a cross wind, like it was today.
16/34 is no problem for 757/767/A332 (A321 is actually more restricted than A332 due to lower surplus of power and less braking power relative to weight due to single axle main gear).
I strongly suspect that 777 was not particularly full or had relatively little cargo on board. A Boeing 777-200ER needs 8,000 feet / 2,438 meters of runway at mean sea level in calm winds with air conditioning off and zero runway gradient on an ICAO standard day (15 degrees celcius, QNH 1013.25 hpa and density of 1.225 kg per meter squared) at MTOW. 777-300ER probably needs even longer. A 20kt headwind is a pretty big help too!
I strongly suspect that 777 was not particularly full or had relatively little cargo on board. A Boeing 777-200ER needs 8,000 feet / 2,438 meters of runway at mean sea level in calm winds with air conditioning off and zero runway gradient on an ICAO standard day (15 degrees celcius, QNH 1013.25 hpa and density of 1.225 kg per meter squared) at MTOW. 777-300ER probably needs even longer. A 20kt headwind is a pretty big help too!
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I strongly suspect that 777 was not particularly full
Agree statements about the RWY, it's never been an issue - Same with that story EI put out before about the A330 taxi limitations using the turnpad on R35, I can clarify that was bull!
Just said I'd point out to people, FR are launching daily service between DUB-CGN from Winter '14, highly likely Germanwings won't take them on next Summer ex-DUB, possible serious opportunity for Cork to win that route, as they serve the west already via NOC.
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Am surprised that FR don't split their ondon operation across STN & LTN like it does with NOC & KIR.
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FR increasing Cork flights for S14 period;
Faro from 3PW to 5PW - Mondays, Wednesdays, Fridays (double daily), Sundays.
Lanzarote from 1PW to 3PW - Tuesdays, Thursdays, Sundays.
Liverpool from 5PW to 6PW - Daily bar Thursdays.
Reus from 3PW to 4PW - Mondays, Wednesdays, Fridays, Sundays.
Wroclaw from 2PW to 3PW - Tuesdays, Thursdays, Sundays.
Of particular interest is the increases in flights to Faro, definitely necessitated by demand, nearly all full last Summer particularly from June to September;
ORK-FAO total flights in S13 (10PW)
ORK-FAO total flights in S14 (13PW)
For the first time now, more flights operating to Faro than Malaga this Summer - (ORK-AGP total flights in S13/PEAK (12PW), S14/PREAK total (11PW).
Pretty certain now, EI will be backing off SNN-FAO in S15, jury is still out on SNN-AGP. Would be surprised not to see at least a twice weekly ORK-FAO service in Winter 14/15.
Faro from 3PW to 5PW - Mondays, Wednesdays, Fridays (double daily), Sundays.
Lanzarote from 1PW to 3PW - Tuesdays, Thursdays, Sundays.
Liverpool from 5PW to 6PW - Daily bar Thursdays.
Reus from 3PW to 4PW - Mondays, Wednesdays, Fridays, Sundays.
Wroclaw from 2PW to 3PW - Tuesdays, Thursdays, Sundays.
Of particular interest is the increases in flights to Faro, definitely necessitated by demand, nearly all full last Summer particularly from June to September;
ORK-FAO total flights in S13 (10PW)
ORK-FAO total flights in S14 (13PW)
For the first time now, more flights operating to Faro than Malaga this Summer - (ORK-AGP total flights in S13/PEAK (12PW), S14/PREAK total (11PW).
Pretty certain now, EI will be backing off SNN-FAO in S15, jury is still out on SNN-AGP. Would be surprised not to see at least a twice weekly ORK-FAO service in Winter 14/15.