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Reports tonight suggest that Cork Katowice might survive after all.
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@TOM1975, I booked to Cork-Cape Town returning via Durban and Jo-burg with BA. I did it through a travel agent who got it cheaper than I could on the net for just a Cork-CPT flight. The t/a got the whole lot for €2550 as opposed to €2725 on the net for a Ork-CPT. However on the net I could have got premium economy for an extra €75 each, when the t/a inquired she got quoated €800+ for the CPT leg each and almost €400 each for the return. The total price is for two people by the way.
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This is a head wreck .... Ryanair is killing our airport
One might say what FR are doing in ORK is exactly what happened in SNN so FR at Cork is a ticking time bomb.
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@Aer Lingus - sorry, must be a misunderstanding. Booking long haul originating in ORK on BA.com, is fine. It's if you try to book shorthaul... so orginating in ORK, connecting in LHR, and onwards to a European destination. For some reason, the LHR to wherever sector always prices in Club Europe, and will not allow economy fare reservations.
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At least Cork can be on their guard to this happening, also SNN offered FR a deal which was'nt offered to EI, therefore SNN suffered at both ends, EI pulling LHR and reducing the T/A routes whilst FR smelled " blood" and went for the jugular like any predetory animal would.
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Friend of mine is on EI823 from CDG which was due in around the same time, and diverted to SNN also. She's spitting feathers that while an earlier Aer Lingus flight also diverted to SNN, the Ryanair flight between them got in.. I'm trying to provide a rational explanation for this.. I assume FR just got lucky with a gap in the weather? Or is it a hardware issue? Or different company SOPs?
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Regardless of SOP's the minima on approaches are set and cannot be changed by operator so this would not be a factor. Not a hardware issue either as the A320 can land in lower visibility than the 737. (Although this doesnt matter in cork as only a Cat2 approach is available where the A320 and 737 minima would be identical) Ryanair must have just got lucky. Looking at the weather right now the vis is below minima so nobody should be landing until it improves.
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Originally Posted by aer lingus
At least Cork can be on their guard to this happening, also SNN offered FR a deal which was'nt offered to EI, therefore SNN suffered at both ends, EI pulling LHR and reducing the T/A routes whilst FR smelled " blood" and went for the jugular like any predetory animal would
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Friend of mine is on EI823 from CDG which was due in around the same time, and diverted to SNN also. She's spitting feathers that while an earlier Aer Lingus flight also diverted to SNN, the Ryanair flight between them got in.. I'm trying to provide a rational explanation for this.. I assume FR just got lucky with a gap in the weather? Or is it a hardware issue? Or different company SOPs?
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Confirmation by Wizz of cessation of Cork routes Wizz Air announces new Gdansk and Katowice routes
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@ Aisle2c, yes I agree with you, it's often crossed my mind that a lot of Ryanair's seat sales must come under the heading of below cost sales which AFAIK is illegal. However I doubt if the Gov can do much about the situtation at Cork as it would breach EU rules on free market economy and that sort of stuff. Also Wizz brought this on themselves to a certain extent. They made some uncomplmentry comments about FR when Fr took over a lot of the Malev routes out of Budapest; the one thing you don't want to do is to antagonise FR unless you have the muscle and the staying power to see it through.
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You could almost see this comming.
Several years ago the perception was that Cork was one airport that wouldn't bend to Ryanairs will. They had gone out and developed a relationship with Wizz that was mutually beneficial and could have progressed as Wizz was seemingly adding routes each year.
When Ryanair were allowed back in the door fairly recently many rolled their eyes in anticipation.....
Several years ago the perception was that Cork was one airport that wouldn't bend to Ryanairs will. They had gone out and developed a relationship with Wizz that was mutually beneficial and could have progressed as Wizz was seemingly adding routes each year.
When Ryanair were allowed back in the door fairly recently many rolled their eyes in anticipation.....
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To be fair to Cork, it was Ryanair who came on to most of the routes on their own initiative. To the best of my knowledge they received no incentives or marketing support on routes that were already served by Aerlingus and Wizz
. The question now being asked is how long will they be happy to pay premium charges on these routes without pressurising the DAA for a deal. The strategy of having a portfolio of airlines which was devised by former marketing director John Smyth in the 1999-2005 period was dependent on Ryanair keeping their distance from Cork. At the time they just operated the Stansted Route.
At one stage Cork was served by 9 scheduled airlines and a wide range of charter carriers.
. The question now being asked is how long will they be happy to pay premium charges on these routes without pressurising the DAA for a deal. The strategy of having a portfolio of airlines which was devised by former marketing director John Smyth in the 1999-2005 period was dependent on Ryanair keeping their distance from Cork. At the time they just operated the Stansted Route.
At one stage Cork was served by 9 scheduled airlines and a wide range of charter carriers.
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