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Is the story true? Will cabin crew only get 20 mins break in a 12 hour shift if it implemented? Are CC being used more as glorifed shop assistants than as a key part of safe operations of the aircraft?
Rest breaks are mandated under EASA, but how the crew are worked is actually up to the supervisor on the day. Crew are there to carry out safety procedures, anthing else is at the direction of the Company to make money and provide a pleasant flight. Crew are incentivised by a commission system, so its up to them how hard they work. There are some other issues, but as ever, there are 2 sides to every story.
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If you're sensible there's always a chance to build in a break into the day.
Get the first service done. Clear up. Assign rest to 2/3 crew and close off a galley to rest. Have two crew on hand to assist passengers. Then once the time is up, swap over.
Yes, as crew you're always 'on duty', but it's no different to an office worker taking a break knowing the phone could go at any time.
Or, we could increase turnaround times by 20 minutes, and push up prices or reduce ROCE on each aircraft and risk jobs or bases?
I don't believe for one minute that on the long sectors TCX do that there can't be time found for 20 minutes of rest.
Perhaps the pursers could be taught better time management?
Get the first service done. Clear up. Assign rest to 2/3 crew and close off a galley to rest. Have two crew on hand to assist passengers. Then once the time is up, swap over.
Yes, as crew you're always 'on duty', but it's no different to an office worker taking a break knowing the phone could go at any time.
Or, we could increase turnaround times by 20 minutes, and push up prices or reduce ROCE on each aircraft and risk jobs or bases?
I don't believe for one minute that on the long sectors TCX do that there can't be time found for 20 minutes of rest.
Perhaps the pursers could be taught better time management?
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Hi, I've got a question about a Thomas Cook Scheduled flight - not sure if anyone here can help but thought it might be worth a shot.
Any idea if there's a specific time when scheduled flight times are up-dated? I'm interested in Flight MT 2538 (Manchester - Antalya), and want to know when flight times have been changed between July last year (07:00) and current flight time (14:15).
It's to help me deal with a difficult tour operator who say they were only informed about this change a week ago. I recognise I may be being optimistic in thinking this will help., but any help appreciated.
Best regards,
cfol
Any idea if there's a specific time when scheduled flight times are up-dated? I'm interested in Flight MT 2538 (Manchester - Antalya), and want to know when flight times have been changed between July last year (07:00) and current flight time (14:15).
It's to help me deal with a difficult tour operator who say they were only informed about this change a week ago. I recognise I may be being optimistic in thinking this will help., but any help appreciated.
Best regards,
cfol
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Any idea if there's a specific time when scheduled flight times are up-dated? I'm interested in Flight MT 2538 (Manchester - Antalya), and want to know when flight times have been changed between July last year (07:00) and current flight time (14:15).
The first is the world-wide summer slot conference in mid-November, up until that point no airline could be sure that they had got the airport slots at the times they wanted at either end of the route unless they had operated an identical flight at an identical time in summer 15. Up until this point, in the absence of those "historic rights", many of the advertised flight times could only have been provisional.
The second key date was the slot return deadline in mid January by which time the airlines were supposed to have completed their slot swapping/trading and should have firmed up their summer 16 programmes.
This is the way it is supposed to work but some carriers, holiday/charter companies in particular, will continue to add, cut and change things around in response to actual sales trends even as late in the day as this.
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Hi all please see post 2544. Did not travel on Air Tanker in the end, both flights by older aircraft with downstairs toilets. Very good flights with pleasant crew.
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With regards to the A330 fleet, there doesn't seem to be much fleet rotation as the same bunch of 330's are operating in MAN everyday, have TCX decided to base certain frames for the duration of summer?
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I think this is due to certain frames having premium economy and some don't.
The two based at GLA (Air Tanker, HiFly) are both all-economy but MDBD, OMYT and MLJL are all 2-class and are usually stuck on the LAX/JFK/BOS routes.
The two based at GLA (Air Tanker, HiFly) are both all-economy but MDBD, OMYT and MLJL are all 2-class and are usually stuck on the LAX/JFK/BOS routes.
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Probably because the competition ex EGCC - AA, CO, VS, DL/VS - all have 2-class offering and TCX / MT need to have a similar level of service to attract those pax who want to have a better level of service than Y but aren't prepared to pay the prices charged by the American carriers for their bog-basic cattle-class and certainly won't stump up the extra for 'business'.
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Both the A330's have moved down to STN for the English school holidays. They'll stay there for about six weeks before returning to GLA in September. Seems to be the common set-up now.