EAST MIDLANDS - 4

[cesare.caldi]

To make free space to open new CIA-MAD route, from end of february CIA-EMA start to be operated by EMA based plane with this new timetable:
EMA-CIA 6:30-10:05 daily
CIA-EMA 10:30-12:10 daily
What route will be close at EMA to make space for this?


Continuation of: http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...247520&page=15

[anna_list]

Originally Posted by cesare.caldi

What route will be close at EMA to make space for this?

None: EMA will be receiving 3 more planes in February (for a total of 5).

The existing routes from EMA to CIA, GRO and DUB (x3 per day) will all be flown by EMA based aircraft. As you say, this frees up a CIA based aircraft to fly CIA - MAD and also a GRO based aircraft to fly GRO-BRS and GRO-MMX. Finally, following a bit of re-arranging in Dublin, rotations are freed for DUB-WAW and DUB-VST.

According to the booking system, EMA-SZG and EMA-GNB are currently due to end after the Winter, but EMA-FNI and EMA-EGC will both return, with EGC looking like a straight swap for SZG (both 4x wkly).

Things get more complicated at the end of March, when Tue, Thu and Sat rotations on EMA-GRO are taken (back) over by a GRO based plane, allowing EMA-RMI to start.

[Lite]

Originally Posted by cesare.caldi

To make free space to open new CIA-MAD route, from end of february CIA-EMA start to be operated by EMA based plane with this new timetable:
EMA-CIA 6:30-10:05 daily
CIA-EMA 10:30-12:10 daily

This flight will now leave only 30 minutes before the easyJet departure on exactly the same route. I think that's a real shame, because the timings before pretty much made it possible to spend a short day, or nearly two fully days, in Rome, this option will no longer be available. Excellent though to have this Ryanair expansion - and the latest rumours are Cagliari and Palermo I believe.

I heard in work yesterday that First Choice are beginning to hand back their A321s to their lessors. As EMA is a A321/B767 base, any idea whether we will get a B757 or A320, or if the A321 will be around for a while yet? Surely it makes sense to be B757/B767, though this will obviously be a crewing issue. Having not handled FCA B757s, will this spell the end of FCA's premium service on shorthaul? I always thought it was an innovative product for a leisure airline to offer.

[WATABENCH]

Lite
EMA will be a 757 FCA base, but I believe it wont be for another year or so, as far as I'm aware anyway, If I remember correctly they said that after they had sorted BRS out as a boeing base that EMA would be next, well BRS is sorted with 2x757(summer)1x757(winter) replacing the 321's that were based, and 1x767(weekends, year round as of Feb). It will mean the loss of short haul premium for EMA as this service is not available on FCA's 757. Hope this answers your question

[SAM-EMA]

A positive move for FCA (shame about the loss of premium, but its an increase). Has anyone heard any rumaours about further long-haul destinations, to base the B767 at EMA permantly.

PLUS: Do you think that Reus and Caligiari with FR will be part of another major expansion for FR from EMA next spring.

SAM-EMA

[Lite]

Perhaps a sixth aircraft from Ryanair at a stretch, but I don't think we ought to be getting greedy, EMA has done very well with all of the routes they've already gained for S07, anywhere else would be the icing on the cake. Certainly, these new routes would have to be operated by a based aircraft unless these two cities are in the line-up for becoming a base.

Excellent news to see that FCA will be upgrading to the 757 in the future, a favourite aircraft type for me. Won't the 767 be here for six days a week next summer? It is a shame we can't just get one more route and have it kept here all week, but again FCA's expansion has been excellent for the airport so far.

[nema/robin hood]

Hi SAM-EMA

Reus and Cagliari may indeed mean part of a further expansion from FR.

Is there really scope for Cagliari, when FR will already be flying to Alghero - Is Sardinia that popular?

I personally, would love to see FR start services to Sweden, Norway and Denmark from EMA.

On another note, I see from the EMA website today, that November's passenger figures saw an increase of 21% on the same month last year!! For all the knocks that FR receive, they sure know how to bring those passengers in!!!

Roll on 2007 and all those lovely new routes!!

[Lite]

I too agree it would be nice to have more flights to Central Europe and Scandinavia. Ryanair already have substantial operations in Germany and Scandinavia, so it would be nice for them to perhaps link their bases or focus cities with East Midlands.

Saw today significant scaffolding in the former buspark, clearly work is progressing on the new arrivals hall. Anybody got any firm information from the airport side how it is all going?

[SAM-EMA]

The Reus base and new routes from Caligari are only what I have heard here from PPRuNe, but they sound as if they are going to happen though.

SAM-EMA

[bmibaby.com]

Ryanair seem to be going from strength to strength and are arguably becoming the home airline of EMA, considering that whilst they have an equal number of based aircraft to what is currently considered the airport's "home" airline bmibaby, they have more seats and routes than we do. They seem committed to expansion, and almost every new route announcement over the last few months has been from them. It really is a shame that bmibaby have not been able to fully take advantage of the huge potential market we had from EMA, now Ryanair have moved into many of the big markets, putting baby between a rock and a hard place. Where can WW expand to next? It seems a legitimate question, particularly if rumours of a sixth based aircraft are true. I have to say my obvious bias as an employee of bmibaby would suggest we will outshine the competition; but Ryanair provides excellent value for money, and I think with the general lack of innovation and investment at baby, we're going to find it increasingly difficult to catch up.

[UPS@EMA]

Word on the street is that GB Airways are looking to expand operations at EMA and BRS. Can only mean good things for the airport and for consumers. hows the Pier

Regards

Stu

[Ryan_EMA]

Originally Posted by bmibaby.com

... and I think with the general lack of innovation and investment at baby, we're going to find it increasingly difficult to catch up.

You can always come to work for us

[bmibaby.com]

Originally Posted by Ryan_EMA

You can always come to work for us

Actually I have considered working for Ryanair. Stable roster patterns, modern fleet of aircraft, very cosmopolitan (read: from all over the shop) colleagues and pretty good staff travel scheme. The downside is staff don't seem particularly content whenever I've popped my head round the back of the galley, you have to fork out a mini fortune for training & uniform and I've become all too cushy at baby. There are plenty of things I don't like about baby; ex-BMC people who think they own the shop, new people who don't conform to basic customer service standards, a crummy old fleet of B737s and a stagnating network out of EMA. But they're stable as well and there are some great colleagues out there.

[Fried_Chicken]

Plenty of diverts into EMA today. With the increased based aircraft count from next summer, I wonder if we'll see EMA turning away (non -emergency) diverts due to lack of apron space, especially in the evening & at night when the freighters start to turn up.

How was the arrivals/immigration/baggage reclaim halls today with all the extra pax?

FC

[NutLoose]

Fried_Chicken

Sure they didnt get a few missed approaches and circuits in as well to circumvent the new rules

[Flyboy543]

Absolutely packed for most of today! From what I remember seeing:-

3 Ryanair down East apron, 2 Ryanair on New apron 1 on Central apron
1 eastJet down East apron, 1 on Central apron
3 Thomson B733
1 Thomson B752
1 Thomas Cook A320
5 BA E145
1 Air Europa B738
1 Futura B738

Probably missed a few as it was pretty hetic! I believe the Ryanair's and easyJets came from Liverpool. The E145 I'm guessing Birmingham and the Thomson's Doncaster? Don't know about the others though.

Not sure what stopped the night, could be interesting if some night stopped down the east apron, with UPS/Maersk/TNT aircraft coming and going.

[Mr Angry from Purley]

Fried and Flyboy
Yes real fun and games last night, i for one got the impression that ATC nearly lost the plot as at one stage the taxi ways got blocked. A Star 767 had no-where to park, the DLH MD11 had to wait for a follow me and nearly caused inbound aircraft to go round. There was one BA aircraft awaiting push back for so long he eventually gave up and went to bed.

[Chilli Monster]

Originally Posted by Mr Angry from Purley

Yes real fun and games last night, i for one got the impression that ATC nearly lost the plot as at one stage the taxi ways got blocked.

Get yourself a licence if you think you can do any better

Wasn't working yesterday, but it might be worth remembering that, with the larger aircraft requiring more space to move re parking and pushback it doesn't take long to run out of manoeuvring room - there's only a finite amount of it. Throw in LVP's and life gets very interesting indeed.

[Ryan_EMA]

Originally Posted by bmibaby.com

Actually I have considered working for Ryanair. Stable roster patterns, modern fleet of aircraft, very cosmopolitan (read: from all over the shop) colleagues and pretty good staff travel scheme. The downside is staff don't seem particularly content whenever I've popped my head round the back of the galley, you have to fork out a mini fortune for training & uniform and I've become all too cushy at baby. There are plenty of things I don't like about baby; ex-BMC people who think they own the shop, new people who don't conform to basic customer service standards, a crummy old fleet of B737s and a stagnating network out of EMA. But they're stable as well and there are some great colleagues out there.

every airline has its good and bad points

[Mr Angry from Purley]

Chilli
No offence made, but for one how about preempting MD11 would have needed a follow me and having one waiting there...or at least at end of runway in use