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Old 18th Sep 2014, 07:11
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They don't need to operate a W rotation as the base is still operational at LGW
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Old 18th Sep 2014, 08:29
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Originally Posted by Fly_bill
They don't need to operate a W rotation as the base is still operational at LGW
Have a look at the Aer Lingus timetable page. Choose "Dublin to London Gatwick" for March 2015 (schedule changeover month). You'll see that EI 248, the late evening flight from DUB to LGW, and EI 231, the early morning departure from LGW to DUB, only operate up until 28 March 2015 - after that, there is no overnighting EI aircraft scheduled in Gatwick.

And as fivejuliet says, there are no gaps in the recently-loaded DUB-LGW or BHD-LGW schedules which would indicate an opportunity to operate NOC-LGW as a W.
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Old 18th Sep 2014, 08:34
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Yes Cyrano I'm fully well aware of that but the utilization of those aircraft is not exactly huge and the LGW-DUB route has been cut from the current 7 to 4 rotations, they can easily amend the timetable.
On the point of BHX-NOC I believe they cut this as it was affecting SNN loads, but on the point of it being successful BE have grown it significantly.

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Old 18th Sep 2014, 09:27
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Cyrano,
Suggestions made of additional daily frequency on BHD LGW although not confirmed, and a step down in DUB LGW frequency at this stage as per timetable suggests that it is not a complete picture, and they are unlikely to be surrendering slots at LGW, which are like hens teeth.

I'd suggest a bit premature, possibility that a BHD ac could do noc as was the case last year.

EI have invested heavily in NOC LGW route, not about to throw the towel in I'd suggest.

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Old 18th Sep 2014, 09:46
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Fair points, gentlemen. If EI adds extra service (BHD-LGW or wherever), they certainly have an opportunity to fit LGW-NOC back in. All I wanted to say was that the current summer 2015 schedule does not include an LGW based aircraft or gaps which would permit an LGW-NOC. Of course this could change - I guess we just have to wait and see.
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Old 18th Sep 2014, 20:40
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Hi All

Found this on IWAK wiki page London-Gatwick [Ends 28 March 2015]

Is this the final of Aer Lingus in IWAK?, and who will take up the route or what the reason for leaving and it was doing with good loads

Is kaunas gone to debt free shannon and is Glasgow finish for good at end of sept?
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Old 18th Sep 2014, 20:57
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Aer Lingus schedule is not complete and won't be for a while.

I'd suggest a bit premature, possibility that a BHD ac could do noc as was the case last year.
Did that happen or was it DUB or LGW. Unions would have a field day if that happened as BHD crew are "not allowed" to operate from the Republic unless they are based in LGW or DUB.
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Old 18th Sep 2014, 21:22
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See this link re discontinuation of PIK Ryanair announces new Glasgow routes - The Scotsman
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Old 18th Sep 2014, 22:07
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Not totally correct eia330. Bhd crew are 'not allowed' to operate into an ROI base. As NOC is not a base there's no issue. This summer NOC was operated by Lgw crew but last summer was a W pattern by BHD crew
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Old 19th Sep 2014, 05:52
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Did the scrap man get any more planes?
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Old 19th Sep 2014, 10:43
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Looking across the network there's quite a few UK routes not up for sale past March, mainly those with no connections to transatlantic, like NOC.
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LGW back on sale for 2015 summer
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Old 23rd Sep 2014, 19:52
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Good was getting worried there but can't see where the aircraft is based as it doesn't fit with the dub or bhd schedule. Maybe the lgw based aircraft will be flying to destinations yet to be announced .

I see eindhoven or gran canaria are still not bookable! I thought pik performed well considering it was a new route! Thought it deserved a second summer run but fares were very low I suppose!
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Old 23rd Sep 2014, 20:34
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Well either current DUB/BHD schedules are yet to be amended or LGW base will have schedule put back on, as it is the flights which have been loaded are very similar times, as though it will be LGW base. EI have held firm on LGW-NOC and grown LGW-DUB a lot, considering they pulled out of LGW altogether some years ago saying they were unable to drive trade - I don't suppose they'd want to throw it all away.
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Gatwick on sale now for summer 2015 as expected was never in danger of not returning
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Seeing how Knock is pretty close to Beautiful County Galway and Mayo.
Plus Galway city and all it has to offer.
Is there any chance of a route To Doncaster Sheffield. Links air already serve Belfast City.
Also are there flights from Knock to Dublin.
Id like to See Aer Lingus Regional or Links air Do Dsa
After all they used to fly from Leeds to Knock.
Yorkshire would benefit from that link and in return with the right Marketing counties Mayo and Galway would from the Tourist traffic.
Ireland is such a beautiful place (im Half English half welsh and an Irish Great Grandmother).
So perhaps my Celtic connection is making me wonder.
But even better would be to restore to knock the Service to Conemara Airport. Now I don't know how many years since it stopped but I read there used to be one.
I don't know how long the flying tine in an Islander would be to Knock. But it would have to be a oso.
And the boost that would give for the Aran islands in Tourism and Conemara and the south of county Galway. Especially since Galway airport is shut (will it ever reopen? Why did it close)
But id Aer Aran Islands could do Knock
I bet they'd make money
Now the question is. As a side point are there bigger aircraft such as the dornier 328 ot the Let 10 used by City wing which I think seat more.
Could they operate from Conemara? .
I read its 750m long .
But think of the connectivity it could bring.
Any thoughts guys?
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Old 5th Oct 2014, 00:37
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Question about Knock please help if you can

Are there Flights to Leeds Bradford still or East Midlands?
If so which airline. And what times and days do they Operate.
Id like to see Knock to DSA and HUY. Is there any Lillkely hood of that?
Also in Relation to Westport in Mayo is Knock the Nearest or Is Shannon a better bet.
Can I get from Shannon to LBA. Or EMA?
Or is it just Manchester. Plus which carriers would fly those routes?
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Old 5th Oct 2014, 08:58
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Old 5th Oct 2014, 10:16
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Ryanair fly from East Midlands to Knock year-round.
Flybe fly from Manchester to Knock year-round.
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Old 5th Oct 2014, 20:32
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Also in Relation to Westport in Mayo is Knock the Nearest or Is Shannon a better bet
I assume you are asking about Westport Co. MAYO?


Knock Airport
Direction and distance from the CITY:
3 NM SW of Charlestown
Post: Ireland West Airport Knock
Connaught Airport,
Development Co. Ltd,
Charlestown Co. Mayo.
Also are there flights from Knock to Dublin.
There was a subsidized service.
Its gone, better roads and EU rules.
Without a subsidy the viability is dubious. Same applied to Galway/Sligo to Dublin services.

But even better would be to restore to knock the Service to Conemara Airport. Now I don't know how many years since it stopped but I read there used to be one.
Can you provide a link to who/when there was a service from Knock to the islands or even Minnea?


Inisheer: all distances are approximate 120kts.
Base turn runway 27 in Knock 62nm approx 32 minutes.
Base turn runway 24 in Shannon 32nm approx 15 min
to Minnea 9nm approx 5 min flying time.

Waste of taxpayers money connecting the Arran islands via Knock or Shannon.

The purpose of the Aer Arran Islands service is to provide connectivity to/from the Islands and the mainland.

Nearest large "Metropolis" is Galway.

The Islands service is to ensure that there is easy access to the mainland and locals are subsidized- don't know about tourists.

Now the question is. As a side point are there bigger aircraft such as the dornier 328 ot the Let 10 used by City wing which I think seat more.
Could they operate from Conemara? .
I read its 750m long .
AIP Runway is 600m

Use the AIP link and check each island Inisheer 500m
INISHMAAN 534m: INISHMORE 490m.

I am not a pilot but I doubt anything bigger than 10/15 seater would be able to use Minnea/Inisheer/Inishmore or Inishmaan.

While I applaud your enthusiasm I think you need to do a bit more legwork.
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