IRELAND WEST AIRPORT KNOCK
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Very frustrating to see Edinburgh go, it did just seem to be establishing itself during the summer in terms of loads, unfortunately I guess it wasn't paying its way.
In ten years of flying between Scotland and the West of Ireland I have now seen the following routes come and go:
SNN-PIK (FR)
SNN-GLA (EIR, then BE)
SNN-EDI (FR)
GWY-GLA (BA/Loganair)
GWY-EDI (RE)
NOC-EDI (BE)
NOC-GLA (WW)
...leaving us with SNN-EDI (EIR) and the upcoming NOC-PIK route. I have flown on all those routes at one time or another other then the GWY-GLA one. It seems to be a real struggle to get a sustainable route/carrier setup on these routes. EIR's EDI-SNN is the only route surviving this winter - and even that has been cut back.
Hopefully NOC-PIK becomes the route that bucks the trend but with BE dropping EDI I'd have a real fear now that by summer 2015 we'll be back to a situation where NOC has no direct links to Scotland.
In ten years of flying between Scotland and the West of Ireland I have now seen the following routes come and go:
SNN-PIK (FR)
SNN-GLA (EIR, then BE)
SNN-EDI (FR)
GWY-GLA (BA/Loganair)
GWY-EDI (RE)
NOC-EDI (BE)
NOC-GLA (WW)
...leaving us with SNN-EDI (EIR) and the upcoming NOC-PIK route. I have flown on all those routes at one time or another other then the GWY-GLA one. It seems to be a real struggle to get a sustainable route/carrier setup on these routes. EIR's EDI-SNN is the only route surviving this winter - and even that has been cut back.
Hopefully NOC-PIK becomes the route that bucks the trend but with BE dropping EDI I'd have a real fear now that by summer 2015 we'll be back to a situation where NOC has no direct links to Scotland.
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It seems strange that there are now no connecting flights bookable to EDI from NOC. This seems odd as there are plenty of flights from NOC to MAN and BHX and onwards from these airports to EDI but no connections are bookable. Connections to GLA are still in the system. Given that they had developed a customer base through the direct flights to EDI you would think they would wish to retain a connection especially as there would be no real cost to the airline to do so.
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From MWR News:
Deputy O'Mahony describes key IWAK report as 'positive'
A report on the future of Ireland West Airport Knock has been handed over this evening to the Minister for Transport and the Taoiseach.
The news was confirmed to Midwest Radio by Deputy John O’Mahony, the Chair of the Joint Committee on Transport and a member of a special study group tasked with producing the document.
The Fine Gael TD says the group, comprised of a wide range of local and national stakeholders, as well as the board of the airport, met 8 times over the course of their work.
Deputy O’Mahony says the report contains a number of key recommendations on Ireland West Airport that are likely to be published in the coming weeks.
He described the report’s findings as ‘positive’ and said he expected the response from government to be the same.
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Looks like this is finally at a conclusion. The report itself will be interesting, but what will be more important is whether the findings are implemented and how the longer term issue of state aid is dealt with.
Deputy O'Mahony describes key IWAK report as 'positive'
A report on the future of Ireland West Airport Knock has been handed over this evening to the Minister for Transport and the Taoiseach.
The news was confirmed to Midwest Radio by Deputy John O’Mahony, the Chair of the Joint Committee on Transport and a member of a special study group tasked with producing the document.
The Fine Gael TD says the group, comprised of a wide range of local and national stakeholders, as well as the board of the airport, met 8 times over the course of their work.
Deputy O’Mahony says the report contains a number of key recommendations on Ireland West Airport that are likely to be published in the coming weeks.
He described the report’s findings as ‘positive’ and said he expected the response from government to be the same.
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Looks like this is finally at a conclusion. The report itself will be interesting, but what will be more important is whether the findings are implemented and how the longer term issue of state aid is dealt with.
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NOC will have 5 flights to/from LON on summer Fridays and Sundays, really positive. LGW is down as A320 for summer, this should help boost pax which have dwindled a bit this year after some good growth.
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Anyone know from where the LGW flight is operated from on its W routing ? It was BHD last summer i think and switched to LGW for the winter timetable ! Will it be a DUB A320 for next summer or back to BHD?
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http://www.con-telegraph.ie/news/lat...unding-dispute
The Connaught Telegraph reports this week that a 35 million euro investment package (phased over an extended period) for IWAK is to be recommended in the airport report. Funding source to be split between central government and local authorities. Obviously this is only a small fraction of what Shannon recieved a year ago but I would rather see a smaller amount wisely invested in the airport than a huge amount wasted if the proposals get government approval.
I wonder would the focus be on route development, terminal and apron expansion or would the airport management consider removing the departure fee to entice more passengers to use the facility. At 3 million euro a year, it would be a brave decision to remove the fee.
The Connaught Telegraph reports this week that a 35 million euro investment package (phased over an extended period) for IWAK is to be recommended in the airport report. Funding source to be split between central government and local authorities. Obviously this is only a small fraction of what Shannon recieved a year ago but I would rather see a smaller amount wisely invested in the airport than a huge amount wasted if the proposals get government approval.
I wonder would the focus be on route development, terminal and apron expansion or would the airport management consider removing the departure fee to entice more passengers to use the facility. At 3 million euro a year, it would be a brave decision to remove the fee.
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Government have announced OPEX funding scheme for regional airports will be extended for 10 years, giving them certainty for planning and investment (subject to EU rules). New regional aviation policy is being drawn up which will require regionals to become sustainable in that period. No details yet but it does sound like the recommendations and business case in the IWAK report have been adopted.
Coupled with travel tax cut, and reasonable capital investment package this should ensure further growth and a secure future for Knock.
http://www.midwestradio.ie/index.php...-knock-airport
Coupled with travel tax cut, and reasonable capital investment package this should ensure further growth and a secure future for Knock.
http://www.midwestradio.ie/index.php...-knock-airport
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I wonder would the focus be on route development, terminal and apron expansion or would the airport management consider removing the departure fee to entice more passengers to use the facility. At 3 million euro a year, it would be a brave decision to remove the fee.
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As a result of the weather impact this morning it looks like IWAK has ended up with five aircraft on the ground at once this afternoon - two BE, two FR and an EI. Anyone know how they're working this with only three stands? If there were four aircraft they could hold one on the runway but five seems more awkward.
At least the LPL flight got away half an hour ago or it would have been six at once.
At least the LPL flight got away half an hour ago or it would have been six at once.
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Eindhoven now showing 4 weekly mo,tue,thurs,sat .must be selling like hot cakes.Thought fr would have brought pik launch forward considering edi is gone . I see alc is now gone to 1 wkly in April may,but goes to 3 wkly in high season.
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For the months of April and May next summer:
EDI -3 weekly
ALC -1 weekly
GRO -2 weekly (resumes June)
LPA -1 weekly (resumes June)
BGY -2 weekly (resumes June)
EIN -1 weekly released at 3 weekly, then increased to 4 now showing 2
LTN and STN gain 5 flights.
Some of the cuts are the same from September onwards while the second weekly AGP no shown yet. It may not be all confirmed yet but will the numbers lost outside June-August, its unlikely they will be made up. London extras will have an affect but will also take from some of the capacity already here.
EDI -3 weekly
ALC -1 weekly
GRO -2 weekly (resumes June)
LPA -1 weekly (resumes June)
BGY -2 weekly (resumes June)
EIN -1 weekly released at 3 weekly, then increased to 4 now showing 2
LTN and STN gain 5 flights.
Some of the cuts are the same from September onwards while the second weekly AGP no shown yet. It may not be all confirmed yet but will the numbers lost outside June-August, its unlikely they will be made up. London extras will have an affect but will also take from some of the capacity already here.
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For the months of April and May next summer:
EIN -1 weekly released at 3 weekly, then increased to 4 now showing 2
EIN -1 weekly released at 3 weekly, then increased to 4 now showing 2
Also it didn't exist at all last year - you seem to be attempting to compare this year's flights to last year so to include a new twice weekly service as a drop is bizarre to say the least.
A more balanced view of the situation in these months might be something like this:
EDI down three (a dash 8 so in terms of loads about the equivalent of down 1 737-800)
ALC down 1 weekly (if that is finalised)
GRO down 2 weekly (resumes June)
LPA down 1 weekly (resumes June)
BGY down 2 weekly (resumes June)
However, this needs to be assessed against the gains...
EIN up 2 weekly
KUN up 1 weekly (you seem to have ignored this one entirely)
London Airports up 5 weekly
So overall, possibly a slight increase in numbers in these months. Then with the resumption of services to GRO, LPA and BGY, the new service to PIK and the continuation of the other new routes (EIN and KUN) you're looking at sizable gains from June to September.
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THE whip of the Fine Gael party on Mayo County Council has called on the authority to do everything in its power to ensure the future of Ireland West Airport Knock (IWAK).
Speaking at yesterday’s (Monday) budget meeting of the council, Councillor Joe Mellett said the report of the study group, chaired by Deputy John O’Mahony, revealed the airport owes €85 million to the bank, for which it is paying €900,000 per annul in interest, and €1 million to the Western Development Commission.
Speaking at yesterday’s (Monday) budget meeting of the council, Councillor Joe Mellett said the report of the study group, chaired by Deputy John O’Mahony, revealed the airport owes €85 million to the bank, for which it is paying €900,000 per annul in interest, and €1 million to the Western Development Commission.
Though that Glasgow would have started in march now that Edinburgh is gone. Show that is good interest in einhoven when it went to 4p/w and now back to 2p/w it might still increased to 3p/w.
Happy new year to all in pprune