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Just noticed noc/ltn has gone to four weekly for the rest of the summer.The tue/thurs and sat rotations have gone to kerry for some reason.
Strange move considering it always gets good loads and is always jammed over the summer. Kerry must be flavour of the month with the new weeze route announced today.
Flybe saab 340 has been operating the Dublin service for the last week or so bring back the atr quickly the saab is like a flying in a pencil its not a nice aircraft at all .ATR is much more roomy however the scottish FA was very friendly!
Strange move considering it always gets good loads and is always jammed over the summer. Kerry must be flavour of the month with the new weeze route announced today.
Flybe saab 340 has been operating the Dublin service for the last week or so bring back the atr quickly the saab is like a flying in a pencil its not a nice aircraft at all .ATR is much more roomy however the scottish FA was very friendly!
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Yeah that was last years DUB-ADB. Not too sure what about routes from SNN. Turkey is becoming even more popular this year as its cheap to holiday there.
But you will generally only see turkish airlines doing the routes because of an issue with licenses.
But you will generally only see turkish airlines doing the routes because of an issue with licenses.
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NOC- EMA Outbound is showing up so the may not have fully loaded schedule yet.
LTN is back to daily. All morning rotations to London though, an evening flight on Fridays would do well with workers and allow easier coomuting, especially as EI are cutting LGW to 4x week.
LTN is back to daily. All morning rotations to London though, an evening flight on Fridays would do well with workers and allow easier coomuting, especially as EI are cutting LGW to 4x week.
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Flybe have been operating a return flight on Sundays on Sumburgh - Knock Ireland West- Sumburgh (Shetland Islands) I am not sure if it comes in on Saturday, but it takes off on Sunday morning. It's a direct flight.
I emailed asking for details and they said it was not possible to book a seat as it is a private charter. I thought that it was something to do with the detail of operating the Dublin Knock route for Aer Arann with Saab 340, but was advised that this has ended and the Sumburgh flight was separate totally.
Interesting to see Saab 340 into Knock, I think it takes off at 0915/0950.
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I emailed asking for details and they said it was not possible to book a seat as it is a private charter. I thought that it was something to do with the detail of operating the Dublin Knock route for Aer Arann with Saab 340, but was advised that this has ended and the Sumburgh flight was separate totally.
Interesting to see Saab 340 into Knock, I think it takes off at 0915/0950.
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Glad to hear that flybe boneshaker is gone off the Dub route.It was very cramped and clostrophobic and the flight is only 30 mins .
I would say that the atr 42 is overcapacity on the route however I would hope cityjet would reapply for the pso and use a dornier 328 .It is a much nicer aircraft than the sabb 340.
Any news on how the ryanair european routes are performing ?
I would say that the atr 42 is overcapacity on the route however I would hope cityjet would reapply for the pso and use a dornier 328 .It is a much nicer aircraft than the sabb 340.
Any news on how the ryanair european routes are performing ?
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Noc routes performing very well I understand pretty full loads on all FAO flights and ALC doing very well - REU slow start but heard now picking up signifcantly - uncertaintly with ash not helping bookings but great to see these routes doing well even though a lot of capacity on the routes for the summer (FAO x 4) ALC x 3 and REU x 3 -0 jusy shows demand is there feel an AGP would work very well and a BVA
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Good to hear about FR loads, though the selection of charter routes is down at NOC compared with pervious years, so easy pickings for FR on FAO/ALC. NOC are usually good at getting the message out but marketing budgets must be down, I haven't seen any advertising for REU in the region, anyone I mention it to didn't know. It should do very well as the first Euro city break route from NOC, and Salou/Costa Brava charters have been long running.
FR are running KIR-FAO through the winter. I'd say a weekly sun route from NOC would also work, ACE did in the past.
Also the addition of Galway-Sligo-Donegal and Westport bus connections earlier this year to NOC should help somewhat.
FR are running KIR-FAO through the winter. I'd say a weekly sun route from NOC would also work, ACE did in the past.
Also the addition of Galway-Sligo-Donegal and Westport bus connections earlier this year to NOC should help somewhat.
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Ya would agree good to see Knock sun routes expanding, it's the logical place for more international routes to develop from, especially into Germany and France. Rumour has it the guys there are close to getting direct European connectivity, would be great not having to travel from Dublin all the time..
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By direct do you mean a hub link or more FR routes? CDG, FCO, MUN have been mentioned before. Definitely demand from business community for good hub connection if timings are good, current LGW setup isn't much use for connections.
But I think FR NRN/BVA look most likely judging by FRs history and SNN/KIR routes, and they might finally based an aircraft. At the FR press conference yesterday MOL said FR had been inundated with offers from european airports, and with the slowdown in aircraft deliveries competition must be is fierce for small airports.
But I think FR NRN/BVA look most likely judging by FRs history and SNN/KIR routes, and they might finally based an aircraft. At the FR press conference yesterday MOL said FR had been inundated with offers from european airports, and with the slowdown in aircraft deliveries competition must be is fierce for small airports.
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Flybe have been operating a return flight on Sundays on Sumburgh - Knock Ireland West- Sumburgh (Shetland Islands) Its come in on Saturday, but it takes off on Sunday morning. Is it a weekly flight to sumburgh. Its showing on both arr/dep board in both airport,
orwhere can i booked these flights?
orwhere can i booked these flights?
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Ireland West Knock wil not get flights to Paris BVA as FR are increasing the route for their SNN base to 4 weekly from 30 Oct compaied with the current 3 weekly flights.
For summer 2011 Knock may get Malaga as it is not operating for winter 2010/11 from SNN so FR may of cut the route of it could be seasonal.
Knock winter flights to East Midlands, Brostil have both been reduced and I think aer Lingus reduced ther LGW as they are under pressuer with FR flights as FR will have 7 weekly flights to Luton and 7 to Standsted.
For summer 2011 Knock may get Malaga as it is not operating for winter 2010/11 from SNN so FR may of cut the route of it could be seasonal.
Knock winter flights to East Midlands, Brostil have both been reduced and I think aer Lingus reduced ther LGW as they are under pressuer with FR flights as FR will have 7 weekly flights to Luton and 7 to Standsted.
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Could see AGP going very well during winter from NOC or during summer 2011. hard for charters to compete now with Ryanair throwing on extra capacity on sun routes at low prices. BRS and EMA at same frequency for winter havent been reduced, EI reducing to 4/week think more to do with managing network more carefully than anything else as think loads have been fairly good but winter is always a challenge. it looks like EDI is being pulled from SNN for the winter anyone know anything about this, may be moving it to NOC??
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Hi Travel from Ire West Knock to Faro in mid july. Full loads both way and ontime as well.
Malaga would be nice for 2011 and maybe a french or germany route as well as i hear there maybe news on some of these before to long
Malaga would be nice for 2011 and maybe a french or germany route as well as i hear there maybe news on some of these before to long
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I don't think that Ryanair will launch a German route as Ryanair are not happy with the German travel tax.
EDI operates from GWY so if Ryanair were to do the route it would only be twice or three weekly. It is been dropped from SNN and its not the type of route to go seasonal.
AGP will more than lightly stay at SNN next summer as Ryanair have to meet a set amount of passengers and people from Limerick city would not travel to Knock. They would go by Cork Airport. Knock may get it as well but I wouldn't think so. When GWY had AGP they didn't do that well. A lot more people traveled from Waterford on therm. Aer Arann and considering resuming AGP. FAO and mabye Palma. Not sure if they will go from GWY but when all routes went from Waterford they did a lot better than GWY. So I don't think GWY will get them.
EDI operates from GWY so if Ryanair were to do the route it would only be twice or three weekly. It is been dropped from SNN and its not the type of route to go seasonal.
AGP will more than lightly stay at SNN next summer as Ryanair have to meet a set amount of passengers and people from Limerick city would not travel to Knock. They would go by Cork Airport. Knock may get it as well but I wouldn't think so. When GWY had AGP they didn't do that well. A lot more people traveled from Waterford on therm. Aer Arann and considering resuming AGP. FAO and mabye Palma. Not sure if they will go from GWY but when all routes went from Waterford they did a lot better than GWY. So I don't think GWY will get them.
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I think it would be a safe enough bet to expect a malaga flight next year.Fao/alc and reus have been a huge success this year.Faro was 4 weekly for july and august and alicante was increased to three weekly.
On the uk front I would expect fr to introduce Edi before too long and especially since they have axed Shannon.However for it to work they would need say a mon/fri/sun schedule so people could have a weekend break.A tues/thurs/sat just wouldnt work.
I see Bristol is 3 per week for winter(tues/thurs/sat) Ema back to 3 per week from 4 last year.
Can anybody explain why Fr put Ltn to 4 per week for this summer schedule its always been a well supported route?
On the uk front I would expect fr to introduce Edi before too long and especially since they have axed Shannon.However for it to work they would need say a mon/fri/sun schedule so people could have a weekend break.A tues/thurs/sat just wouldnt work.
I see Bristol is 3 per week for winter(tues/thurs/sat) Ema back to 3 per week from 4 last year.
Can anybody explain why Fr put Ltn to 4 per week for this summer schedule its always been a well supported route?
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When GWY had AGP they didn't do that well
I think yeah Aer Arann didnt do too well but when Euromanx did it with 146 prior to that it did well with good loads being attracted. Cant comment on yield but my understanding is that Euromanx did well on the sun routes it was the sheer loss from LCY GWY operation that put a spanner in the works!
Personally, Aer Arann could do well if they got smarter at marketing. They need to target their market appropriately. GWY should be fit to sustain season sun routes independently of what Knock or Shannon are doing. (sorry getting away from the thread topic)
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