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The Brussels' routes won't be announced just yet. When? I do not know.
An aircraft from Geneva will fly something like:
GVA - NCE - BRU - GVA - BRU - NCE - GVA
Also to be announced: LTN - BRU and MAD - BRU.
The Brussels' routes won't be announced just yet. When? I do not know.
An aircraft from Geneva will fly something like:
GVA - NCE - BRU - GVA - BRU - NCE - GVA
Also to be announced: LTN - BRU and MAD - BRU.
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They have a 10 eyar lease on the a/c, but I don't know when that ends.
There was a small article in a certain airline magazine late last year that said that the first of the 737s would be sent to GOL in South America. Don't know if this has happend or not?
There was a small article in a certain airline magazine late last year that said that the first of the 737s would be sent to GOL in South America. Don't know if this has happend or not?
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Easyjet knocks Browns latest stealth tax
I'm voting with my feet on this one. The new tax means it is cheaper to route regional low cost to AMS etc than endure the journey and hell of Heathrow.
From the BBC site.
Easyjet knocks air passenger duty
Easyjet says the duty is unfair
Budget airline Easyjet has attacked the recent doubling of UK Air Passenger Duty, describing the charge as "an ineffective environmental tax".
The carrier said the duty was unfair as it did not apply to freight flights or recognise that some airlines have more efficient planes than others.
Easyjet says its flights are 27% more fuel efficient per passenger than the European airline average.
The airline saw passenger numbers for the last three months of 2006 rise 10%.
It also predicted that its profits for year to December were set to rise by 40-50%, despite the carrier facing a 7% rise in its fuel bill for the first half of its financial year.
New planes
Rules doubling the amount of passenger duty people pay when taking flights from the UK came into force last week. UK Air Passenger Duty now starts at £10 for an economy class flight within the UK or Europe, rising to £80 for a business or first class ticket on a long-haul flight. However, Easyjet said that by investing in newer planes it had been able to reduce its carbon dioxide emissions by 18% per passenger since 2000.
From the BBC site.
Easyjet knocks air passenger duty
Easyjet says the duty is unfairBudget airline Easyjet has attacked the recent doubling of UK Air Passenger Duty, describing the charge as "an ineffective environmental tax".
The carrier said the duty was unfair as it did not apply to freight flights or recognise that some airlines have more efficient planes than others.
Easyjet says its flights are 27% more fuel efficient per passenger than the European airline average.
The airline saw passenger numbers for the last three months of 2006 rise 10%.
It also predicted that its profits for year to December were set to rise by 40-50%, despite the carrier facing a 7% rise in its fuel bill for the first half of its financial year.
New planes
Rules doubling the amount of passenger duty people pay when taking flights from the UK came into force last week. UK Air Passenger Duty now starts at £10 for an economy class flight within the UK or Europe, rising to £80 for a business or first class ticket on a long-haul flight. However, Easyjet said that by investing in newer planes it had been able to reduce its carbon dioxide emissions by 18% per passenger since 2000.
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I believe this "environment" tax is a BIG step in the RIGHT direction and something that we HAVE to get used to in the years to come...
As Im sure most of you have noticed, we are slowly killing our planet, the only place, so far anyway, where we can live, survive...
Leaders around the world, except Bush that is, are finaly getting their heads out of the sand! Meassurements like these are crutial for our long term existance.... Some of you may say "Well, the aviation industry only stands for x% of total emissions", "Agriculture stands for a much higher % of pollution" etc etc....this is true, BUT, we have to start somewhere!
The EU commission is just about to rule on car emission.
From CNN online today:
"It (EU commission) will decide Wednesday just how it can decrease average emissions from new and imported cars by 2012 as the car industry calls on other factors, like taxation and cleaner fuel, to play a part.
Rising CO2 emissions from transportation -- both road and aviation -- jeopardize the EU's efforts to cut the amount of greenhouse gases that the region releases.
At the same time, car makers are set to miss a target they set with the European Commission nine years ago to bring down average emissions from new and imported cars to 140 grams of CO2 per kilometer by 2008. Although emissions have been falling, they have not gone far enough, hitting 162 grams in 2005.
Now the EU executive is threatening a binding lower limit for 2012 -- but the car industry will not have to bear that alone as the EU promises to boost the use of biofuels and cleaner fossil fuels."
Get used to it, because we have only seen the begining of this... If you dont like paying these new "taxes" - Drive less, go on holiday less often, have a telephone/live internet business meeting instead of flying to see your business partners (and save your company money at the same time), eat less meat. Start using more environmently alternatives when available, yes they are often the more expensive alternative, but if you start using them they will be able to get more competative and will eventually fall in price....
Simple as that!
cHeKEd foR spIlling...
As Im sure most of you have noticed, we are slowly killing our planet, the only place, so far anyway, where we can live, survive...
Leaders around the world, except Bush that is, are finaly getting their heads out of the sand! Meassurements like these are crutial for our long term existance.... Some of you may say "Well, the aviation industry only stands for x% of total emissions", "Agriculture stands for a much higher % of pollution" etc etc....this is true, BUT, we have to start somewhere!
The EU commission is just about to rule on car emission.
From CNN online today:
"It (EU commission) will decide Wednesday just how it can decrease average emissions from new and imported cars by 2012 as the car industry calls on other factors, like taxation and cleaner fuel, to play a part.
Rising CO2 emissions from transportation -- both road and aviation -- jeopardize the EU's efforts to cut the amount of greenhouse gases that the region releases.
At the same time, car makers are set to miss a target they set with the European Commission nine years ago to bring down average emissions from new and imported cars to 140 grams of CO2 per kilometer by 2008. Although emissions have been falling, they have not gone far enough, hitting 162 grams in 2005.
Now the EU executive is threatening a binding lower limit for 2012 -- but the car industry will not have to bear that alone as the EU promises to boost the use of biofuels and cleaner fossil fuels."
Get used to it, because we have only seen the begining of this... If you dont like paying these new "taxes" - Drive less, go on holiday less often, have a telephone/live internet business meeting instead of flying to see your business partners (and save your company money at the same time), eat less meat. Start using more environmently alternatives when available, yes they are often the more expensive alternative, but if you start using them they will be able to get more competative and will eventually fall in price....
Simple as that!
cHeKEd foR spIlling...
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Another Eco-Nazi! Paying Robber Brown more tax is not going to do anything for the health of the planet- Brown is on a massive money-raising campaign, and that is all there is to it, whilst we let him stay in power. Look mate, the world warms up and it cools down- all the time- it is never stable. We came out of an ice-age 10-20,000 years ago, and we are in a warm up cycle- it's all to do with the precession of the ecliptic and the spinning of the polar axis. The world will go into a cool down cycle eventually, like it has hundreds of times before, and once again Birmingham will be covered with ice 2 miles thick. It happens, sorry Birmingham, but I don't think you will be missed with that accent. Sorry for the Polar Bears and Penguins, it's nature. But it's fashionable for us to blame western democracies and ourselves for being the culprits. The world has a restoring force that keeps the atmosphere at least survivable (otherwise we would have not got this far in the development of life- but when you watch Eastenders, maybe we've used up all our rights to life). It's gonna warm up and be great for the tan, like eventually it's gonna freeze. But I am fed up with dodgy scientists using dodgy scientific data to produce dodgy scientific 'horror stories' that me and my BMW are destroying the planet. It's nonsense. There was a time all of India was a festering open volcano (as was Yellowstone) producing millions of times the CO2 humanity is. The Earth restored itself, and it will do again. Instead of punishing ourselves for being alive, I would far rather see Eco-Nazis saving rainforests and getting ridding of filthy diesel trains and buses and cows and their methane farts, and co-operating on nuclear energy. Then I would believe you were serious!
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The priorities are all wrong,take my old man,he developed a bus engine that is odourless and environmentally friendly,he got a big order from london buses,then what happens?the government stopped all grants making the engines unaffordable and now he's in danger of going out of business,does anyones seriously think the APD will make such a difference.When pax figures continue to increase will they admit it hasn't and reduce it? Will they bollox.I'm all for doing our bit but why not look at making airway structures and ATC more efficient and direct which would make a difference,its enough to make your pi$$ boil..
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I would have liked to have seen Mr Brown doubling the road tax on
HGV's, they would have blocked roads and brought the country to a stand still, so he went for the easy target, what would Mr brown do
if say, Ryanair, Easyjet and other Airlines blocked Londons Airports.
HGV's, they would have blocked roads and brought the country to a stand still, so he went for the easy target, what would Mr brown do
if say, Ryanair, Easyjet and other Airlines blocked Londons Airports.
well said rainboe 
all this government can do is find ways to wring more cash out of us, and spins us yarns, which the BBC and the like take as gospel. anybody with an alternative point of view is branded as mad. ring any bells from recent history anybody?
although i in no way condone the recent letter bombs, it is a sign of discontentment coming very close to the surface. i cant see the scottish robber taxing the farmers for animals filling the atmosphere with methane. if he did there would be immediate direct action.
brown relies on the majority of us keeping quiet and paying up, and we do just that - at the moment.
all this government can do is find ways to wring more cash out of us, and spins us yarns, which the BBC and the like take as gospel. anybody with an alternative point of view is branded as mad. ring any bells from recent history anybody?
although i in no way condone the recent letter bombs, it is a sign of discontentment coming very close to the surface. i cant see the scottish robber taxing the farmers for animals filling the atmosphere with methane. if he did there would be immediate direct action.
brown relies on the majority of us keeping quiet and paying up, and we do just that - at the moment.
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It is very arrogant of the human race to think that by stopping flying and cutting emissions we can change the natural evolution of the earth.
They reckon between 6000-5500BC the land link with the European mainland disappeared. To put this in context sea levels were a lot, lot lower then which means there was a lot more ice in the polar caps as we were coming out of the iceage.
600 years ago there was snow on the mountains of the UK years round.
Therefore at the moment we are in a warming up period and have been for thousands of years. For countries such as Bangladesh this inevitably means that they will be flooded, this was always going to happen and there isn't a jot that mankind can do to prevent this.
We maybe increasing the rate of change but all we are increasing is the inevitable.
What annoys me is that aviation is an easy target. There are alternatives to electricity generation. Most car journeys are un-necessary etc yet we are going after an easy target.
Go to renewables on electricity generation etc, tax the use of the motor car more after all it would make people more healthy by getting off their backsides. But until there is an alternative for Jet A1 why are we pikcing on an industry that underpins the world economy, employs around 3 million people in this country and in the grand scheme of things is a very small percentage of overall emissions.
We should be looking for renewables for the other, larger polluters. What is happening is that there is a puritanical leftie group who are very vocal and very good at getting their message across.
They reckon between 6000-5500BC the land link with the European mainland disappeared. To put this in context sea levels were a lot, lot lower then which means there was a lot more ice in the polar caps as we were coming out of the iceage.
600 years ago there was snow on the mountains of the UK years round.
Therefore at the moment we are in a warming up period and have been for thousands of years. For countries such as Bangladesh this inevitably means that they will be flooded, this was always going to happen and there isn't a jot that mankind can do to prevent this.
We maybe increasing the rate of change but all we are increasing is the inevitable.
What annoys me is that aviation is an easy target. There are alternatives to electricity generation. Most car journeys are un-necessary etc yet we are going after an easy target.
Go to renewables on electricity generation etc, tax the use of the motor car more after all it would make people more healthy by getting off their backsides. But until there is an alternative for Jet A1 why are we pikcing on an industry that underpins the world economy, employs around 3 million people in this country and in the grand scheme of things is a very small percentage of overall emissions.
We should be looking for renewables for the other, larger polluters. What is happening is that there is a puritanical leftie group who are very vocal and very good at getting their message across.
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Guys, Im so far away from being a "Eco-Nazi", you have no idea....
Difference is that in the past 10 years or so I have managed to get my head out of the sand, I suggest some of you should too.
I will not go in to details on the replys here, but guys, seriously, get your facts right before you start talking about global warming, cooling and land mass movements in our planets rather short history......
To add to my initial post, I wanna make clear that I never said, and never will say, that I think the money "gained" on these taxes are being used in the right way, far from. Neither did I say, nor will I, that I agreed on Mr Browns political agenda as such....All Im saying is that we really need to act now, before its too late.. Most research made in the last 5-10 years comes to the conclusion that it is NOT too late YET to do something about this and to start reverse the chain that we, you and me, have started....
Thing is, until leaders around the world start setting up clear goals and time frames for lowering pollution levels, nothing will happen...no money (not enough anyway) will be invested in alternative fuel resources etc. However at the end of the day, its up to us to tell our governments what we want, to make the choice on what kind of products we buy (ie environment friendly or "not")...
The choice is yours....
/CP
Difference is that in the past 10 years or so I have managed to get my head out of the sand, I suggest some of you should too.
I will not go in to details on the replys here, but guys, seriously, get your facts right before you start talking about global warming, cooling and land mass movements in our planets rather short history......
To add to my initial post, I wanna make clear that I never said, and never will say, that I think the money "gained" on these taxes are being used in the right way, far from. Neither did I say, nor will I, that I agreed on Mr Browns political agenda as such....All Im saying is that we really need to act now, before its too late.. Most research made in the last 5-10 years comes to the conclusion that it is NOT too late YET to do something about this and to start reverse the chain that we, you and me, have started....
Thing is, until leaders around the world start setting up clear goals and time frames for lowering pollution levels, nothing will happen...no money (not enough anyway) will be invested in alternative fuel resources etc. However at the end of the day, its up to us to tell our governments what we want, to make the choice on what kind of products we buy (ie environment friendly or "not")...
The choice is yours....
/CP
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If the politicians were genuine in their concern regarding carbon/pollutant emissions, they should immediately fast-track 50 new nuclear power stations to replace gas/coal alternatives and subsidise the installation of de-polluting "scrubber" technology at coal-fired power stations in poorer countries. And in the UK, investing in additional rolling stock could enable the rail companies to stop deliberately pricing customers off trains and into cars to keep the numbers manageable.
The doubling of APD was a crass cashgrab by the chancellor. How much of that cash will be used to help the environment? It is an insult to the electorate to suppose that we would be fooled by this. And by the way, if I personally didn't book my return air ticket to Spain would the scheduled A321 on the route be cancelled as a result? Didn't think so ... This whole flying/guilt trip thing is a complete nonsense.
I am actually very PRO environmental protection - I don't own a car, I do use public transport whenever possible, I switch off electrical devices rather than leaving them on standby. But that does not mean that I will stand back and watch our industry being savaged by politicians as an easy target. Ask a politician why a passenger aboard a Dash 8-400 should pay the same 'environmental tax' as one aboard a Boeing 737-200; I'd be surprised if they even understood the point! What incentive is there for airlines to invest in the latest environmentally-friendly types at considerable expense?
And by the way, exactly WHAT is the government doing to coordinate research into viable alternatives to fossil fuels for propulsion? How about putting up money 'X-Prize' style [spaceflight project] to encourage meaningful research? We in this industry should point out the 'carrot' options open to politicians who genuinely care about the environment, and get away from the 'don't book an air ticket' gesture politics.
Well, that's my rant on the subject anyway! Flames awaited ...
The doubling of APD was a crass cashgrab by the chancellor. How much of that cash will be used to help the environment? It is an insult to the electorate to suppose that we would be fooled by this. And by the way, if I personally didn't book my return air ticket to Spain would the scheduled A321 on the route be cancelled as a result? Didn't think so ... This whole flying/guilt trip thing is a complete nonsense.
I am actually very PRO environmental protection - I don't own a car, I do use public transport whenever possible, I switch off electrical devices rather than leaving them on standby. But that does not mean that I will stand back and watch our industry being savaged by politicians as an easy target. Ask a politician why a passenger aboard a Dash 8-400 should pay the same 'environmental tax' as one aboard a Boeing 737-200; I'd be surprised if they even understood the point! What incentive is there for airlines to invest in the latest environmentally-friendly types at considerable expense?
And by the way, exactly WHAT is the government doing to coordinate research into viable alternatives to fossil fuels for propulsion? How about putting up money 'X-Prize' style [spaceflight project] to encourage meaningful research? We in this industry should point out the 'carrot' options open to politicians who genuinely care about the environment, and get away from the 'don't book an air ticket' gesture politics.
Well, that's my rant on the subject anyway! Flames awaited ...
