LONDON CITY - 2
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Who is responsible for it's publicity ? Air France ? Cityjet ? Scot ?
4 pax on day 1 is pathetic. Where were the free seats given out to journalists, prominent media people, the most frequent fliers on the BMI service, etc ? Where were the publicity puffs on Belfast and London radio stations ?
At least the glitch on the LCY website arrivals information has been fixed. Thank you whoever reads here !
In passing did the LCY management themselves turn out to give it a sendoff ?
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To answer one of the above questions, the BHD is being sold and "marketed?" by AirFrance Cityjet as it is their route. ScotAirways are only wet leased to operate the route presumably whilst it is built up enough to justify using an RJ on it.
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SAS to add Oslo
Not totally surprising:
Another RJ70 route operated by Transwede. They will have at least 4 RJ70s allocated to LCY ops by the end of the summer.
I am not sure if Oslo has come about because the planned flights to Genoa and Torino on behalf of Air One appear to have been cancelled for good and will not be started for the time being.
The most obviously missing routes now are Helsinki and Vienna. Wonder if BA Cityflyer will move in on those two.
Now Norwegians can also fly direct to the heart of London. SAS Braathens is to launch a new route to London City Airport.
London City Airport is situated only ten kilometers from the City of London, which is one of Europe's leading financial centers. Many banks, stock-broking firms and law firms have their headquarters here. "Many of our London passengers are business travelers with high demands for an efficient and convenient journey. We are dedicated to fulfilling these needs and are therefore launching this route to London City," says Johnny Skoglund, Vice President at SAS Braathens.
There will be two daily departures between Oslo Gardermoen and London City, commencing on August 28. SAS Braathens already operates up to five daily departures between Oslo Gardermoen and London Heathrow....
Scandinavian Airlines Sverige and Scandinavian Airlines Danmark have experienced tremendous success with their flights to London City from Stockholm and Copenhagen. Now this attractive destination is also available to SAS Braathens passengers.
The route will be operated by Transwede.
London City Airport is situated only ten kilometers from the City of London, which is one of Europe's leading financial centers. Many banks, stock-broking firms and law firms have their headquarters here. "Many of our London passengers are business travelers with high demands for an efficient and convenient journey. We are dedicated to fulfilling these needs and are therefore launching this route to London City," says Johnny Skoglund, Vice President at SAS Braathens.
There will be two daily departures between Oslo Gardermoen and London City, commencing on August 28. SAS Braathens already operates up to five daily departures between Oslo Gardermoen and London Heathrow....
Scandinavian Airlines Sverige and Scandinavian Airlines Danmark have experienced tremendous success with their flights to London City from Stockholm and Copenhagen. Now this attractive destination is also available to SAS Braathens passengers.
The route will be operated by Transwede.
I am not sure if Oslo has come about because the planned flights to Genoa and Torino on behalf of Air One appear to have been cancelled for good and will not be started for the time being.
The most obviously missing routes now are Helsinki and Vienna. Wonder if BA Cityflyer will move in on those two.
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Doesn't have to be Finnair. Blue1 in Finland already have a 146 fleet, and are part of SAS. But 2h45m off the LCY runway is probably pushing the 146 a bit.
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And LCY had 359 movements on Thursday 29th March 07.
A new daily record for the airfield I believe.
And as it was open from 0630-2230 - an average of over 22 movements per hour. Not bad when you consider the quiet periods, and the last 90 mins only had 3 movements.
A new daily record for the airfield I believe.
And as it was open from 0630-2230 - an average of over 22 movements per hour. Not bad when you consider the quiet periods, and the last 90 mins only had 3 movements.
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Yes it definatley seems busier than ever although I bet the thames radar controllers luv the last Swiss arrival sometimes nearly an hour late at allmost 2230.
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Gawd bless that Swiss!
On a bright note - at least it is inbound and not outbound (everyone has to wait 15 mins after an outbound departs... just in case).
Also, we are there on radar normally til 2245 so it is an early go really!!!
(in reality - it hasn't been the last flight for the last couple of afternoon shifts I stayed for)
On a bright note - at least it is inbound and not outbound (everyone has to wait 15 mins after an outbound departs... just in case).
Also, we are there on radar normally til 2245 so it is an early go really!!!
(in reality - it hasn't been the last flight for the last couple of afternoon shifts I stayed for)
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Bank Holiday today, so as prescribed in the planning consent the airport cannot open until 09.00, presumably to preserve the peace and quiet of the local residents.
And from 08.45 onwards here is someone therefore having to do an NDB hold at 2,000 feet orbiting the field, doubtless far more noticeable than if he was allowed to land. Of such stupidities are our politicians proud of themselves.
And from 08.45 onwards here is someone therefore having to do an NDB hold at 2,000 feet orbiting the field, doubtless far more noticeable than if he was allowed to land. Of such stupidities are our politicians proud of themselves.
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OR hold them at SPEAR at 4000ft or ALKIN at 3/4000ft????
(Unless of course there were more than one that turned up early for LCY or Biggin.... which may be the case)
(Unless of course there were more than one that turned up early for LCY or Biggin.... which may be the case)
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It appeared that at least eight inbounds scheduled themselves to arrive right on 0900, the moment things opened.
Bear in mind operators have to make special arrangements for LCY restricted times on these days, people like Swiss with integrated aircraft allocations have to do a lot of juggling to handle things.
It's not like it was in the days when one Brymon and one Eurocity Express arrived on a Bank Holiday morning
Bear in mind operators have to make special arrangements for LCY restricted times on these days, people like Swiss with integrated aircraft allocations have to do a lot of juggling to handle things.
It's not like it was in the days when one Brymon and one Eurocity Express arrived on a Bank Holiday morning
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Doesn't surprise me at all.
The other Sunday there was something similar, with traffic arriving way before 1230L. Told that they couldn't land for 20 minutes, which they were aware of.
Aircraft speed: Full out at 230kts with 40 track miles to go and with a tail wind meant 265kts ground speed.
Also, Biggin would have had a late opening and I had a Gulfstream for over an hour around ALKIN one bank holiday (Ended up vectoring around London at 2000ft for 20 mins as he was bored........!!) He said it was the best part of the flight from Teterboro!
The other Sunday there was something similar, with traffic arriving way before 1230L. Told that they couldn't land for 20 minutes, which they were aware of.
Aircraft speed: Full out at 230kts with 40 track miles to go and with a tail wind meant 265kts ground speed.
Also, Biggin would have had a late opening and I had a Gulfstream for over an hour around ALKIN one bank holiday (Ended up vectoring around London at 2000ft for 20 mins as he was bored........!!) He said it was the best part of the flight from Teterboro!
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Helsinki
'Doesn't have to be Finnair. Blue1 in Finland already have a 146 fleet, and are part of SAS. But 2h45m off the LCY runway is probably pushing the 146 a bit.'
At a push the RJ85 could do Helsinki I think but it might be weight restricted? It surely has to follow though doesn't it?
At a push the RJ85 could do Helsinki I think but it might be weight restricted? It surely has to follow though doesn't it?
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Currently the longest routes from LCY are ARN and FCO, both at approx 880mi and served with RJ70s. HEL would add another 250mi, so quite a stretch. The longest RJ100 route is MAD at 770mi.
Are any of the former Air Malta/Azzurra Air RJ70s still available (I know one has gone to the VAE as a VIP aircraft) ? They would problably be the only aircraft suited as they received additional at Air Malta's request tanks when built. I remeber they flew MLA-DUS regularly which is exactly the distance between HEL and LCY.
Are any of the former Air Malta/Azzurra Air RJ70s still available (I know one has gone to the VAE as a VIP aircraft) ? They would problably be the only aircraft suited as they received additional at Air Malta's request tanks when built. I remeber they flew MLA-DUS regularly which is exactly the distance between HEL and LCY.
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Weren't the RJ70s that Euromanx used to operate formerly Air Malta aircraft; where are they now? They might have been a little too hasty getting rid of the ir jets given the boom in new RJ suitable routes out of LCY.
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Bank Holiday today, so as prescribed in the planning consent the airport cannot open until 09.00, presumably to preserve the peace and quiet of the local residents.
And from 08.45 onwards here is someone therefore having to do an NDB hold at 2,000 feet orbiting the field, doubtless far more noticeable than if he was allowed to land. Of such stupidities are our politicians proud of themselves.
And from 08.45 onwards here is someone therefore having to do an NDB hold at 2,000 feet orbiting the field, doubtless far more noticeable than if he was allowed to land. Of such stupidities are our politicians proud of themselves.
Although I dont mind seeing those nice Fokkers circling my house, at least it wasnt a rj100