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Flybe - 3 (Including the FlyBe/BACon merger)

Old 13th Dec 2006, 22:19
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Transit Pax

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Yes there are still some at BHX.

The first Frankfurt in goes to GLA BA1757

The first GLA in BA1802 to CDG

The 2nd EDI in goes to Madrid BA1792

The third GLA is BA1806 onward to CDG (change of craft 145 to RJ100)

Then I think there are the inbounds 1793 from MAD out to EDI, 1807 in
from CDG out to GLA and 1764 from GLA out to FRA.

The N/S Frankfurt is due to cease in March if the deal is done
and as for the rest?

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Old 13th Dec 2006, 23:47
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Thanks Pete

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Old 14th Dec 2006, 09:58
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Bacon And Flybe Bhx

BACON RJs often flew with single figures on them! I have seen the load numbers as my brother works for BAR on the ground (they still havent been told if they have jobs yet!!!!!) BACON have a lower fill rate than Flybe (why the airline lost so much money that and the rediculous number of managers they had.) so maybe less rotations but more passengers per aircraft may not be the passenger drop off that is being predicted. I worry about Flybe at BHX long term they seem to test routes at BHX. Then discontinue them or massively reduce their frequency and capacity. Also they commence the duplicate operation from one of their other bases. I just hope that BHX does not loose too many routes ie LYS,GVA. Looking at Flybes Croatian routes it could be possible that BCN or MAD will be operated on alternate days during the summer. Lets hope airlines like Vueling,Click and Swiss fill any gaps. I am also surprised that LH have not seen a gap in the market on TXL,HAM,STR,DUS,HAJ I believed they were planning to expand in the UK regions?
Dissapointed rant over!!
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Old 14th Dec 2006, 18:39
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After reading your point of the RJ flying in single figures , I remember the day that the RJ used to have 50 / 60 in club on a thur/frid from AMS and Jer and flights packed !!
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I see FlyBe are having another fantastic day!!! Many delays and cancellations around the network.
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Old 20th Dec 2006, 09:53
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I think you will find most operators are in the same boat and will be all week with the weather

Ryanair and Easyjet had Liverpool based aircraft everywhere except Liverpool this morning

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Old 20th Dec 2006, 10:53
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Maybe not just due to the weather. I'm currently sat in the departure lounge at EDI, waiting fro my flight to LGW.

The FLYBE Embrarer is parked just outside the window, the passengers have just had to walk off and identify thier bags, and get back on again, there's a lot of groundstaff round the plane too, some of the bags were taken away in a van.

Not sure what's happening, they seem to be loading bags back on at a very slow rate.
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Old 20th Dec 2006, 11:35
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Sounds like a baggage discrepancy, and for whatever reason it couldn't be resolved easily by checking the AAA paperwork (happens quite a lot I'm afraid). It sounds from your description like a baggage ID was neccessary, as this is sometimes the quickest and easiest way to rectify the situation.

Not something the airline can be blamed for.
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Old 20th Dec 2006, 11:38
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Originally Posted by Charlie Fox
I see FlyBe are having another fantastic day!!! Many delays and cancellations around the network.
I suppose the airline is to be blamed for the fog, and the fact that at many of the aircraft bases the legal limits for either departure or arrival set by the CAA, are such that in the present conditions it would be not only foolish, but illegal to operate.

Get a life you gimp!
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Old 20th Dec 2006, 12:20
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Originally Posted by Maude Charlee

Not something the airline can be blamed for.
Oh I know, some of the passengers looked annoyed, but most seemed to take it okay. The plane left, I think about 20 minutes late, so not a big deal.

I'm currently waiting for my flight to LGW, delayed due to the fog. I have just seen an Easyjet flight land, so maybe this is my aircraft.
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Old 20th Dec 2006, 12:21
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In BHX yesterday and Flybe had 6 Aircraft doing nothing!! Seen the 195. Very nice. Seen the Q400. Props are defo for boats.
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Old 20th Dec 2006, 12:38
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Originally Posted by Charlie Fox
I see FlyBe are having another fantastic day!!! Many delays and cancellations around the network.
It's not for lack of trying. 6 go-arounds due to fog yesterday, and that was just me. I apologise for not having x-ray vision.
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Old 20th Dec 2006, 12:42
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Chesty,

I wouldn't worry too much about explaining - even BA!!!! had to cancel ALL domestic flights into LHR today.


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Old 20th Dec 2006, 12:50
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This is a BA war-cry though, anything goes wrong everything domestic is cancelled - remember August?
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Flyingbug, I know, I can't help wanting to educate the ignorant masses though!
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Old 20th Dec 2006, 13:27
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E-mail from BAConnect

Just received this email from BA regarding the sale/merger


UPDATE


Dear Mr XYZ,

You may remember that we announced in November the planned sale of BA Connect to Flybe. We continue to make good progress and hope to be able to confirm more details to you soon. It is critical to both BA Connect and Flybe that your experience is affected as little as possible during the integration of the two airlines.

We would like to reassure you that after the sale is complete Flybe will offer a range a great products and a high level of service, details of which can be seen on their website

In the meantime BA connect will continue to operate normally and you should continue to book as normal.

Thank you for your continued support
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Old 20th Dec 2006, 13:33
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Deal Delayed

The BA Connect takeover by Flybe has been put back till 31st January.

http://www.nextgenerationairline.com/updates.htm
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Old 20th Dec 2006, 15:24
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How many routes, exlcuding LCY ones do BA Connect currently operate?
The latest update on the next generation airline website (see link posted by stupot7783) shows only 22 Flybe routes will be former BA Connect ones - sounds like quite a few present BACON routes could be dropped
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Old 20th Dec 2006, 18:01
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BACON operate 48 routes excluding LCY and MAN-JFK. They are

BHX to ABZ, BCN, BER, CDG, DUS, EDI, FRA, GLA, GVA, HAM, HAJ, LYS, MAD, MXP, STR
MAN to ABZ, BHD, BRU, CDG, DUS, EDI, FRA, GLA, GVA, HAJ, IOM, JER, LYS, MAD, MXP, SOU, VIE
LGW to INV, IOM
GLA to CDG, FRA, MUC
EDI to CDG, HAM, SOU
BRS to CDG, DUS, EDI, FRA, GLA, MXP, ZRH
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We already know the 8 BRS routes are being axed

Several of the routes are duplicated with the existing Flybe network

BHX - ABZ, BHX - DUS, BHX - EDI, BHX - GLA, BHX - GVA, BHX - HAJ, BHX - HAM
MAN - BHD, MAN - GLA, MAN - SOU
SOU - EDI

This leaves 30 routes. I doubt Flybe will continue GLA - CDG, FRA or MUC as these operate via BHX and could simply be offered as connecting flights.

Leaving 27 routes., so 5 will be axed to make the 22 planned

My guesses are MAN - BRU (already rumoured), MAN - HAJ, EDI - HAM, BHX - BCN & MAN - VIE
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