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Many thanks David for sharing your experiences... Agreed. Surely the government will take at look at the open skies policy again and make some hard decisions. I am in the process of draughting a letter to the David Anderson MHK in the DoT and would encourage interested others to do so too.
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Mr B, dude.......
loved the posts of yourselves!
Just would like to say if i had the choice of swapping my postiotn to working behind the desk in the last week - i wouldnt swap for all the tea in china!
Even though i was getting called all the names in the manx dictionary, i still had a job to do and a company i loved so much to protect, but i can imagine couldnt have been easy for you guys trying to sort out day by day the daily plan!
Just wish we hadnt had ended the way we did and we had at least a month to prepare ourselves, but heyho, whats done is done.
But what i would like to say is, on behalf of all the girls & boys on the frontline.....
we salute you, gentlemen....and thank you for keeping us in order when we needed to be kept in order!
And yes thank Mr B you have been a great manager, you were fair, diplomatic, funny, cool & serious and it was a pleasure to be part of the ops team in the last year. And as Lairy said I would do it again as well - just need a dozen million, some aircraft and some staff! lol
Thank you ops, Euromanx eight zero lima will see you on the ground...any chance of the crew bus?
loved the posts of yourselves!
Just would like to say if i had the choice of swapping my postiotn to working behind the desk in the last week - i wouldnt swap for all the tea in china!
Even though i was getting called all the names in the manx dictionary, i still had a job to do and a company i loved so much to protect, but i can imagine couldnt have been easy for you guys trying to sort out day by day the daily plan!
Just wish we hadnt had ended the way we did and we had at least a month to prepare ourselves, but heyho, whats done is done.
But what i would like to say is, on behalf of all the girls & boys on the frontline.....
we salute you, gentlemen....and thank you for keeping us in order when we needed to be kept in order!
And yes thank Mr B you have been a great manager, you were fair, diplomatic, funny, cool & serious and it was a pleasure to be part of the ops team in the last year. And as Lairy said I would do it again as well - just need a dozen million, some aircraft and some staff! lol
Thank you ops, Euromanx eight zero lima will see you on the ground...any chance of the crew bus?
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No Crew Bus.... It's already booked to take Seymours kids to school!
A crew bus for Seymour and Cardie, pathetic. When you think about what we used to work for it really is shocking what used to go on there.
A crew bus for Seymour and Cardie, pathetic. When you think about what we used to work for it really is shocking what used to go on there.
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We did it boys, we shifted every passenger, on the same day, we didn't hotac anyone.
Are you sure ? i seem to rememeber being put up in a hotel on saturday 3rd may...... i suppose ofically that wasnt the last week but 6 days later euromanx was now longer.........mmmm. the staff at manchester tried their very best despite being shouted at by alot of my fellow passengers. I will miss my regular travels with euromanx and your excellent service, now i have the joys of flybe to deal with
Goodluck to everyone in finding new jobs, does this affect any jobs at manchester or liverpool?
Are you sure ? i seem to rememeber being put up in a hotel on saturday 3rd may...... i suppose ofically that wasnt the last week but 6 days later euromanx was now longer.........mmmm. the staff at manchester tried their very best despite being shouted at by alot of my fellow passengers. I will miss my regular travels with euromanx and your excellent service, now i have the joys of flybe to deal with
Goodluck to everyone in finding new jobs, does this affect any jobs at manchester or liverpool?
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No chance of a change from open skies, not with the current chief minister and governments never admit mistakes. Anyway, remember if there had been route licences then EMX would not have been able to start on LPL or Man.
DajBuck : No blame on you for HBB's departure, that lies with JS, the directors and AR, the AD not being on the ball.
DajBuck : No blame on you for HBB's departure, that lies with JS, the directors and AR, the AD not being on the ball.
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Well said Monsieur Buck!
Dear David,
Thank you for your accurate and honest post of the demise of EMX.
I hope this now means that we can all walk safely in the streets without being accosted by pax who lost their dosh!!
Take care and keep us posted of the EMX reunion - you have my email address.
Thank you for your accurate and honest post of the demise of EMX.
I hope this now means that we can all walk safely in the streets without being accosted by pax who lost their dosh!!
Take care and keep us posted of the EMX reunion - you have my email address.
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Extended credit to EuroManx
Having now read the IOM Governments' report on the EM affair I'm absolutely shocked that the government have extended the credit to just under £1m for a struggling airline.
This is clear incompetence on the part of the IOM Government and no doubt the AD is involved too. How and why would you extend credit facilities for this amount of money for months on end.
Now, everything's gone tips up and it's the taxpayer and passengers that will have to fill the hole in the coffers.
I wonder what the response on this will be from Mike Rutter of flybe or Noel Hayes of Manx2. I can imaginw though! Its already been said on here that the government never admits mistakes.If action had been taken sooner then the disaster that happened could have been avoided and a slow wind-down could have been performed.
Good luck to all at EuroManx in finding new positions, I gather they are all being taken care of by Flybe, Aer Arann or bmi regional.
This is clear incompetence on the part of the IOM Government and no doubt the AD is involved too. How and why would you extend credit facilities for this amount of money for months on end.
Now, everything's gone tips up and it's the taxpayer and passengers that will have to fill the hole in the coffers.
I wonder what the response on this will be from Mike Rutter of flybe or Noel Hayes of Manx2. I can imaginw though! Its already been said on here that the government never admits mistakes.If action had been taken sooner then the disaster that happened could have been avoided and a slow wind-down could have been performed.
Good luck to all at EuroManx in finding new positions, I gather they are all being taken care of by Flybe, Aer Arann or bmi regional.
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Yes, I agree. It's a pity they didn't show the same consideration to Manx Airlines, who never needed a loan/bung/fix/moratorium. The then Govt insisted on an inappropriate Open Skies policy for a tiny population catchment area, and turned down TRPL's offer to maintain scheduled services across the UK and Europe in return for monopoly status in some areas.
Politicians eh? LHR turned into LGW. LCY lost. BHX punitively expensive.
And FlyBe selling everything except vegetables and tat to make their financial model work.
On second thoughts, I was wrong about the tat!
Politicians eh? LHR turned into LGW. LCY lost. BHX punitively expensive.
And FlyBe selling everything except vegetables and tat to make their financial model work.
On second thoughts, I was wrong about the tat!
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Its really sad what is happening to this Islands airline industry has anyone any idea just how many people have had to leave this Island to secure jobs elsewhere, losing their homes uprouting their families when is this government going to take a grip of the industry on the Island all these qualified Pilots, Crew Engineers and back office staff are hard working people that they have lost forever.
Before long the Island wont have an economy because the financial industry will not have a stable transport system to bring them here
Good luck to all the hardworking people who have had to reschedule their lives because the IOM government are living in cloud cuckoo land and wont realise what they have lost until it is too late
Before long the Island wont have an economy because the financial industry will not have a stable transport system to bring them here
Good luck to all the hardworking people who have had to reschedule their lives because the IOM government are living in cloud cuckoo land and wont realise what they have lost until it is too late
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What is that on the signs about Douglas "TB Manx Mugabe" Even Mugabe wasn't that daft to not notice the Open Skies implications and possible fallout. Mind you they don't get issued with Hindsight in Tynwald.
I still think the AD is still getting panned for things she had no control over or for not doing things that would have placed her in very hot water legally.
Selling Vegetables is one idea I hadn't thought of, I'll email Mr Rutter tomorrow with that one! You may mock Flybe's business model, but it does mean cheaper fares for those who are prepared to be flexible when they travel and travel light. Beats subsidising those who want to carry the kitchen sink on the busiest times, doesn't it?
Anyway, perhaps out of respect and decency, this particular thread should not contain any more references to Flybe, past or present. If you want to have a pop at them, do so on the Isle of Man or flybe threads and let this one be reserved for those who worked for EMX, or wish to pass tribute to the good service, professionalism and hard work the operational team and crews gave these last few years.
I sincerely hope all of you find gainful employment very soon, have fond memories of your time in the Red corner and have no embarassement at all of recalling your time there in the future. The gossip or rumours passing through Govt, or wherever are not your fault. You all worked hard, did your level best and gave your all, and that should always be respected and admired.
As a Flybe employee, I will not post here again on this thread.
Farewell EMX, and all who piloted her on the waves.
I still think the AD is still getting panned for things she had no control over or for not doing things that would have placed her in very hot water legally.
Selling Vegetables is one idea I hadn't thought of, I'll email Mr Rutter tomorrow with that one! You may mock Flybe's business model, but it does mean cheaper fares for those who are prepared to be flexible when they travel and travel light. Beats subsidising those who want to carry the kitchen sink on the busiest times, doesn't it?
Anyway, perhaps out of respect and decency, this particular thread should not contain any more references to Flybe, past or present. If you want to have a pop at them, do so on the Isle of Man or flybe threads and let this one be reserved for those who worked for EMX, or wish to pass tribute to the good service, professionalism and hard work the operational team and crews gave these last few years.
I sincerely hope all of you find gainful employment very soon, have fond memories of your time in the Red corner and have no embarassement at all of recalling your time there in the future. The gossip or rumours passing through Govt, or wherever are not your fault. You all worked hard, did your level best and gave your all, and that should always be respected and admired.
As a Flybe employee, I will not post here again on this thread.
Farewell EMX, and all who piloted her on the waves.
Last edited by RVF750; 18th May 2008 at 20:12.
