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Old 26th Oct 2007, 19:54
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True it does exist, but can you find any of the above info on it?.

If it is true and the info has been given out it is a surefire way to see of future bookings even up to Mar 2008
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Old 26th Oct 2007, 20:20
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Genuine?

The serial numbers, years of manufacture, Registrations and seat capacitys are correct. Does anyone know if the Total Airframe time & Total Cycles are also correct?
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Old 26th Oct 2007, 20:24
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Lightbulb total time for DH8B

I would say they would not be far off the times given for the Age of the Dash's
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Old 27th Oct 2007, 09:09
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Come on guys, calm down a little. This sale offer amounts to a potential change of aircraft ownership NOT operator. Euromanx lease their aircraft,as many other carriers do, and ownership changes are very common in the industry, with aircraft being bought and sold all the time. Aircraft with leases attached are much more valuable to a new owner in exactly the same way as investment property is with a signed-up tenant. Does life on the rock mean you always have to look on the dark side of life.
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Old 27th Oct 2007, 09:37
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But then when they sell the aircraft at the end of March, will that be the final cut
sub lease the Manchester and London City to VLM, Air South West to Liverpool and Manx2 to Belfast.......
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Old 27th Oct 2007, 11:25
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If they do own them....could it not be a sale and leaseback.....easy way to generate cash!!
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Old 27th Oct 2007, 11:48
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perhaps they will replace them with let 410's. no more £28 tax each way
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Old 27th Oct 2007, 13:06
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I'm sure that if you want to put together a sale/lease back, then you don't advertise the sale element on the open market. The deal would just be done with the lessor, so this looks like a genuine disposal.

I can't imagine VLM wanting to get involved in a head to head with FlyBe on MAN, but given a clear run at LCY, I'd guess they'd do it like a shot, although they'd need to base an a/c in IOM get the business traffic, with all that involves.

Does anyone know how long the wet lease with Aer Arann on LPL has to run, as that must be factor in all this too.

It certainly looks as though Euromanx S08 will look rather different from what we have now.
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Old 27th Oct 2007, 14:23
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Summer 08 will be very interesting indeed, with everythin that has been said so far. I believe EI-REJ is leased up until 2009 the last i heard anyway. Im sure Flybe will be keeping a close eye on preceedings
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Old 27th Oct 2007, 16:15
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Euromanx what really is going on

Ok some of this needs to be cleared up:

Firstly the ticket desk will be run by flight support from Nov 11. Some staff will be retained while others are offered employment elsewhere in EuroManx. The outsourcing is merely a cost saving measure, nothing more nothing less.

BB and BC are both owned by EuroManx outright at present. They were purchased outright a good number of months ago in a £15million deal. There was press coverage of this.

The lease on EI-REJ I believe was renewed in September with RE.

If EuroManx really intend on shutting up shop next year why go to all the trouble of getting the new earlier LCY slot??

As for AirSouthwest it is unlikely we will see them in IOM for some time. The a/c operating for flybe leaves tomorrow. They have no connection with EuroManx except one of their bosses was overseeing the management buyout.


These rumours are not donig any good. Ok yes this is a rumours site but how about just waiting to see what happens. I know for a fact EuroManx are reviewing their fleet after the buy out, just as they reviewed their ticket desk
 
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Should not take long to review the fleet though

I still have doubts about this document as to me it gives too much information.

They may have purchased the slot because it is an asset which can be sold? later if necessary. Also the buyout may not have been on the horizon at the time.
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Old 28th Oct 2007, 19:10
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Manx Crab the deal has been on the horizon for at least the last four months according to those in the know.
 
Old 28th Oct 2007, 19:34
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Perhaps Euromanx will take advantage of the 27 Q400's from SAS about to enter the market!
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Old 29th Oct 2007, 21:19
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I see in Flight International that Club 328 has been sold - will this have any effect on the Euromanx operation ??
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Old 30th Oct 2007, 08:53
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I've read it with interest previously, wasn't totally sure that Quest wasn't another 'branch' of Club 328 which is why the question was asked.
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Old 30th Oct 2007, 19:49
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Well looking at the date of the press release on the club328 website, its sale is after the buyout so is by Quest to Plane Chartering Ltd.

So what exactly is left now at the parent company? and how does this stack with the document from AMS Aircraft Ltd.
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Old 30th Oct 2007, 19:55
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Why on earth dont EMX issue a press release and put all this speculation to bed? If it was bad news, they could hide it somewhere on their website (a la competition) and run a competition to see how quickly we could find it.....
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Old 31st Oct 2007, 12:56
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What's nesxt

Im told the whole thing is being pushed by finance men behind the scenes.
3W trying to turn 2 dashesinto cash and Club328 also trying to do same with a Do328. Next stage is a route reorganisation with one being dropped and 1 new one. Who knows what theyll be flying next year.....but Im sure we'll have seen it here at Ronaldsway before........my moneys on Saab 340 or Do328 (or Vickers Vicount.)
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Old 31st Oct 2007, 14:52
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my money on the following.....

dropped route is belfast......

new route.....amsterdam....
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Old 31st Oct 2007, 16:52
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And my moneys on dry leased Do328s after the dashes have been cashed in to payoff some debt.
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