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Ryanair/Aer Lingus: An Irish Vision
Ireland is a small country in many ways, but a magnificent one too. So often in our tragic history, though, we the people in this land of poets and dreamers need to be protected from ourselves. The current hysteria surrounding Ryanair’s proposed takeover of Aer Lingus reminds us again that this smallness too often manifests itself in hubris and mendacity when the focus, in truth, should be on the vision and opportunity represented by the take over offer document.
Imagine a future where Dublin, Shannon and Cork are major centres of European aviation, rather than Paris, Frankfurt and London, as is currently the case. Aer Lingus has been abused for years, minimised, trivialised and kept in chains by governments lacking the backbone and vision the set the company free from the twin diseases of political interference and union empire building, but since the privatisation we have a golden opportunity to change all that. An opportunity that could benefit the Irish nation in previously unimagined ways, raise Aer Lingus to the highly profitable long-haul behemoth it always should have been, and despite the ill-informed shrieks to the contrary, create wealth and security of employment for thousands.
As those of you who’ve read my posts previously will know, I’m a Ryanair captain. I work for Michael O’Leary. I’m also an enthusiastic amateur when it comes to nuances and intricacies of the airline business. There have been many words used to describe my boss, words like ‘colourful’, ‘abrasive’, even downright ‘rude’, and they’re just the publishable ones. Unfortunately, though, the usual suspects delight in focusing on style over substance. IALPA, an organisation who’ve raised fecklessness to an art form, continue to persuade a few that the perception of insult is worthy of an eclipse of common sense. The same IALPA who’ve risked millions in pension fund money in trying to prevent the liberation of Aer Lingus. Its bleakly pleasing to reflect that such a gesture of feather-headed bravado is characteristic of an empire in the evening of its existence.
I would like to suggest that MOL be viewed through the prism of his achievements to date and future potential, rather than his personal style. I, like thousands, owe my job to his vision and genius, and for that he has my loyalty. Loyalty doesn’t obscure the harsh realities of commercial success, though, and I would further suggest that you all consider the following, as objectively as you’re able.
Michael O’Leary has created an airline worth 7 billion Euros, the most profitable on earth by a very large margin, from the loss making basket case it was a decade ago. Ryanair is the European market gorilla and is the principal driver of airline boardroom behaviour not only in Europe but, increasingly, around the world too. When the history of European aviation is written there will be few giants that loom as large or whose influence will be felt as long. Ryanair and the imitators who seek to emulate our success have done more to unite the European Union and stimulate local economies than the wildest dreams of Brussels can ever have hoped for.
Open Skies is coming. The only reason its not here already is that BA seeks to retain its vice like grip on slots at LGW and especially LHR, to much American annoyance. The Americans, for their part, resist changes to foreign ownership of their airlines, but these are details. Everyone knows within five degrees what Open Skies will look like, the question is how much more money needs to be lost, how much more fuel will be wasted in propping up dinosaur legacy carriers who continue to invest billions in pursing subsidies instead of markets.
Enter stage left, a renewed Aer Lingus with visionary management. Not with a fleet of a few, ancient and brutally thirsty Airbus 330’s, but with 50, 100, even 200 brand new, state of the art, environmentally friendly 777’s or 787’s. Fanciful? Naïve? No, eminently possible. Why not stage an Irish coup and have Ryanair ferry all those AF, BA and LH passengers to DUB, SNN and ORK before their US pre-clearance and Aer Lingus flights to one of scores of American cities? Why not?
There are obstacles to such a vision for the future, but none are insurmountable. The Dublin Airport Authority is a sick joke whose problems extent far beyond the CAR. The only feasible way forward is to privatise it. If the government lack the balls for that at this point in time, it will be the subject of a fire sale within 5 years anyway, and the Irish people will be short-changed…again. They say a week is a long time in politics, but airports require long term planning and visionary leadership, and they deserve more than political pork-barrelling and union hypocrisy. Irish airports need at least 2 billion €uros spent yesterday to give Ireland the airports we deserve. This, too, is possible.
Certainly there are a few who would stand in the way of a properly run Aer Lingus, but between their desire and the fulfilment of it falls the shadow: the shadow of incompetence and self-interest. Nowhere is this more on show than with SIPTU and IALPA. Lets hope the people of Ireland and the workforce of Aer Lingus have the vision to embrace the future with enthusiasm, and to see the Celtic Tiger roar across the skies above the Atlantic. Ryanair will do it, in the words of another Irish success story, with or without you.
Imagine a future where Dublin, Shannon and Cork are major centres of European aviation, rather than Paris, Frankfurt and London, as is currently the case. Aer Lingus has been abused for years, minimised, trivialised and kept in chains by governments lacking the backbone and vision the set the company free from the twin diseases of political interference and union empire building, but since the privatisation we have a golden opportunity to change all that. An opportunity that could benefit the Irish nation in previously unimagined ways, raise Aer Lingus to the highly profitable long-haul behemoth it always should have been, and despite the ill-informed shrieks to the contrary, create wealth and security of employment for thousands.
As those of you who’ve read my posts previously will know, I’m a Ryanair captain. I work for Michael O’Leary. I’m also an enthusiastic amateur when it comes to nuances and intricacies of the airline business. There have been many words used to describe my boss, words like ‘colourful’, ‘abrasive’, even downright ‘rude’, and they’re just the publishable ones. Unfortunately, though, the usual suspects delight in focusing on style over substance. IALPA, an organisation who’ve raised fecklessness to an art form, continue to persuade a few that the perception of insult is worthy of an eclipse of common sense. The same IALPA who’ve risked millions in pension fund money in trying to prevent the liberation of Aer Lingus. Its bleakly pleasing to reflect that such a gesture of feather-headed bravado is characteristic of an empire in the evening of its existence.
I would like to suggest that MOL be viewed through the prism of his achievements to date and future potential, rather than his personal style. I, like thousands, owe my job to his vision and genius, and for that he has my loyalty. Loyalty doesn’t obscure the harsh realities of commercial success, though, and I would further suggest that you all consider the following, as objectively as you’re able.
Michael O’Leary has created an airline worth 7 billion Euros, the most profitable on earth by a very large margin, from the loss making basket case it was a decade ago. Ryanair is the European market gorilla and is the principal driver of airline boardroom behaviour not only in Europe but, increasingly, around the world too. When the history of European aviation is written there will be few giants that loom as large or whose influence will be felt as long. Ryanair and the imitators who seek to emulate our success have done more to unite the European Union and stimulate local economies than the wildest dreams of Brussels can ever have hoped for.
Open Skies is coming. The only reason its not here already is that BA seeks to retain its vice like grip on slots at LGW and especially LHR, to much American annoyance. The Americans, for their part, resist changes to foreign ownership of their airlines, but these are details. Everyone knows within five degrees what Open Skies will look like, the question is how much more money needs to be lost, how much more fuel will be wasted in propping up dinosaur legacy carriers who continue to invest billions in pursing subsidies instead of markets.
Enter stage left, a renewed Aer Lingus with visionary management. Not with a fleet of a few, ancient and brutally thirsty Airbus 330’s, but with 50, 100, even 200 brand new, state of the art, environmentally friendly 777’s or 787’s. Fanciful? Naïve? No, eminently possible. Why not stage an Irish coup and have Ryanair ferry all those AF, BA and LH passengers to DUB, SNN and ORK before their US pre-clearance and Aer Lingus flights to one of scores of American cities? Why not?
There are obstacles to such a vision for the future, but none are insurmountable. The Dublin Airport Authority is a sick joke whose problems extent far beyond the CAR. The only feasible way forward is to privatise it. If the government lack the balls for that at this point in time, it will be the subject of a fire sale within 5 years anyway, and the Irish people will be short-changed…again. They say a week is a long time in politics, but airports require long term planning and visionary leadership, and they deserve more than political pork-barrelling and union hypocrisy. Irish airports need at least 2 billion €uros spent yesterday to give Ireland the airports we deserve. This, too, is possible.
Certainly there are a few who would stand in the way of a properly run Aer Lingus, but between their desire and the fulfilment of it falls the shadow: the shadow of incompetence and self-interest. Nowhere is this more on show than with SIPTU and IALPA. Lets hope the people of Ireland and the workforce of Aer Lingus have the vision to embrace the future with enthusiasm, and to see the Celtic Tiger roar across the skies above the Atlantic. Ryanair will do it, in the words of another Irish success story, with or without you.
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Why would a BA passenger want to fly from LHR to DUB or SNN or ORK and then onto the US when they can go direct? Same goes for the French and German pax?
I am sure MOL has everyones best interests at heart and will keep the prices nice and low if he was ever lucky enough to get a monopoly and buy out Aer Lingus- not.
I am sure MOL has everyones best interests at heart and will keep the prices nice and low if he was ever lucky enough to get a monopoly and buy out Aer Lingus- not.
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yanair, Europe's largest low fares airline, today (18 October) announced a new route
Ryanair, Europe's largest low fares airline, today (18 October) announced a new route from London Stansted to Stockholm Vasteras.
This new route is a direct result of the incoming Swedish Government's decision to abolish the environmental flight tax proposed by its predecessors, which would have done nothing whatsoever for the environment and severely damaged the country's tourism industry.
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This new route is a direct result of the incoming Swedish Government's decision to abolish the environmental flight tax proposed by its predecessors, which would have done nothing whatsoever for the environment and severely damaged the country's tourism industry.
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Imagine a future where Dublin, Shannon and Cork are major centres of European aviation, rather than Paris, Frankfurt and London,
Now that's funny
Much as I love our dear damp little island. I don't think so On the Uisce Beatha very early, Leo
Mind you, you can't go anywhere nowdays without seeing the golden harp cluttering up the ramp............................
Now that's funny
Much as I love our dear damp little island. I don't think so On the Uisce Beatha very early, Leo Mind you, you can't go anywhere nowdays without seeing the golden harp cluttering up the ramp............................
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Why would a BA passenger want to fly from LHR to DUB or SNN or ORK and then onto the US when they can go direct? Same goes for the French and German pax?
Race you.
LH-C, I tend to agree with a lot of what you say (so they can flame me as well), but I think that the new CEO of EI deserves a chance. If anyone can make EI into something good, particularly as regards long haul, DM gets my vote. I don't think your boss would do well in that market somehow.
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Michael O’Leary has created an airline worth 7 billion Euros, the most profitable on earth by a very large margin, from the loss making basket case it was a decade ago. Ryanair is the European market gorilla and is the principal driver of airline boardroom behaviour not only in Europe but, increasingly, around the world too.
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Its a fantastic idea, given that the prices would be hopefully very low, you would get hordes of passengers from BA and other Long haul airlines, avoid driving to LHR or going UK regional - AMS/CDG/BRU to get cheaper fares.
(a colleague going to Seattle and back paid £3000 less by going BA BRU-LHR-SEA-LHR-BRU rather than LHR-SEA-LHR)
Pilots replys will be tainted by their views on Ryanair and not the idea
Its a fantastic idea, given that the prices would be hopefully very low, you would get hordes of passengers from BA and other Long haul airlines, avoid driving to LHR or going UK regional - AMS/CDG/BRU to get cheaper fares.
(a colleague going to Seattle and back paid £3000 less by going BA BRU-LHR-SEA-LHR-BRU rather than LHR-SEA-LHR)
Pilots replys will be tainted by their views on Ryanair and not the idea
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Best reasons to fly from Ireland;
1/ Most often cheaper to fly to Dub with a low cost carrier and then to the US with Aer Lingus, that is if you don't live in London.
2/ Complete immigration in Ireland, no long queues in JFK or wherever else.
3/ And best of all you don't have to deal with the UK security problems, Dublin is a pain as an Airport but anything is better than Heathrow and Gatwick in my experience.
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1/ Most often cheaper to fly to Dub with a low cost carrier and then to the US with Aer Lingus, that is if you don't live in London.
2/ Complete immigration in Ireland, no long queues in JFK or wherever else.
3/ And best of all you don't have to deal with the UK security problems, Dublin is a pain as an Airport but anything is better than Heathrow and Gatwick in my experience.
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I think the mandatory drug test might be due. Either that or a visit to a deprogrammer. Never heard such rubbish. Some of us paying punters choose to avoid FR. Examples of the right way to do LOCO these days: VirginBlue in Oz, Southwest, and...Aer Lingus. FR do not enter into it.
If I want rudeness, delays, fighting to get what I paid for, I'll go to the local garage and try to get my car serviced.
If I want rudeness, delays, fighting to get what I paid for, I'll go to the local garage and try to get my car serviced.
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nice try Leo....come back after you've had the 2nd bottle of plonk and write more fairy tales......
why has FR share price risen in the last few days....cause the big guns know you've lost the battle and know you'll revert to going back to what your good at.....running FR.
The game is up Leo....
why has FR share price risen in the last few days....cause the big guns know you've lost the battle and know you'll revert to going back to what your good at.....running FR.
The game is up Leo....
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Leo Hairy-Camel. You are so right. Yours is an excellent post. The fact of the matter is that if Ryanair fail in their takeover of Aer Lingus they will start long haul services anyway and those will surely crush Aer Lingus. The board of Aer Lingus have a clear choice: Release shareholder value now by accepting this bid or see that shareholder value disappear within five years as the dinosaur is destroyed by an aggreesive raptor. RYR have all the cash and vision to do all of this. Aer Lingus have neither cash or vision. Whether RYR win the fight now or later is almost irrelevant. Anytime any company receives a bid it is because a different management thinks it can do better. In business terms it is equivalent to putting up the "For Sale" sign outside the front door. RYR have proved that they can do better. The bisd itself has mortally wounded Aer Lingus. In ant takeover battle it is always the defendents that have to do the main fighting. One thing they will have to prove to sahreholders is that they can generate better margins than RYR. Ha! Ha! No one can.
Another respondent has doubted that Ireland can be used as a transAtlantic hub. Of course it can. RYR are established at local airports throughout Europe. There are no transatlantic services from almost all of them. All RYR have to do to make a success of such transAtlantic services is to provide connections to provincial Poland and all the myriad cities and provinces that they serve. Flying from all of them via Shannon to, say, 15 or 20 American and Canadian cities will provide untold new travelling opportunities for millions.
It will happen becausse RYR will make it happen. It is going to be far more revolutionary than anything yiu have seen so far. Will MOL step back? No way. This is far greater than any of his achievemnets so far.
Boeing are probably studying an order from RYR for 50 787's right now.
Another respondent has doubted that Ireland can be used as a transAtlantic hub. Of course it can. RYR are established at local airports throughout Europe. There are no transatlantic services from almost all of them. All RYR have to do to make a success of such transAtlantic services is to provide connections to provincial Poland and all the myriad cities and provinces that they serve. Flying from all of them via Shannon to, say, 15 or 20 American and Canadian cities will provide untold new travelling opportunities for millions.
It will happen becausse RYR will make it happen. It is going to be far more revolutionary than anything yiu have seen so far. Will MOL step back? No way. This is far greater than any of his achievemnets so far.
Boeing are probably studying an order from RYR for 50 787's right now.
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Ryanair buys 10 CAE fligh simulators
Ryanair, Europe’s largest low fares airline, today (24th Oct) announced the purchase of 10 flight simulators from CAE, the world’s leading provider of flight simulators for pilot training.
The CAE full-flight simulators replicate in every detail the cockpit of Ryanair’s Boeing 737-800 series fleet, reproducing with great accuracy real flight conditions for the recurrent training of Ryanair pilots.
The CAE full-flight simulators replicate in every detail the cockpit of Ryanair’s Boeing 737-800 series fleet, reproducing with great accuracy real flight conditions for the recurrent training of Ryanair pilots.
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My dear Leo,
Once again you have failed to confront the real issues in your post. I'm sure that most people working at Aer Lingus would welcome the commercial succces of FR, but under no circumstance will thay want the human recources, safety attitude of FR anywhere close.
You have stated several times that FR is a safe airline because it confirms with all regulations. Yes so does a Citroën 2CV, but I would still feel much safer in a Volvo with all the airbags it can have.
You're leader MOL has indeed made a big success of FR, for that I'm sure many uf us will take our hat off, but surely most of us would do so just so we can put a helmet on.
Beware the FR influence on safety throughout the EU region.
I call upon all pilots in the EU to join in the efforts of Aer Lingus crew and buy stock, so we may prevent the MOL virus from growing beyond it's own.
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Once again you have failed to confront the real issues in your post. I'm sure that most people working at Aer Lingus would welcome the commercial succces of FR, but under no circumstance will thay want the human recources, safety attitude of FR anywhere close.
You have stated several times that FR is a safe airline because it confirms with all regulations. Yes so does a Citroën 2CV, but I would still feel much safer in a Volvo with all the airbags it can have.
You're leader MOL has indeed made a big success of FR, for that I'm sure many uf us will take our hat off, but surely most of us would do so just so we can put a helmet on.
Beware the FR influence on safety throughout the EU region.
I call upon all pilots in the EU to join in the efforts of Aer Lingus crew and buy stock, so we may prevent the MOL virus from growing beyond it's own.
Nick
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Now whatever about their service I dont see how you can call FRs safety into question, I personally fell quite sadisified that I am safe on a FR aircraft, which is more than can be said for some rivals. FR have a fleet of over 100 738s flying around Europe, and while some of them may be a bit tatty, I know that the one area where MOL will never cut corners is safety. On short european flights price and safety are my primary concern, as is the case with most travellers.
There has been a lot of hysteria about the EI takeover, and most of it is typical SIPTU rubbish. At least MOL has a vision for EI , and is buying the shares with a long term plan in mind. If the employees manage to accumilate enough shares to block the FR takeover who do they think will win? As much as it would kill me to see it, I fear there would be a line of green A320s parked at DUB. If the pilots have a long term plan lets see it. A virus MOL may be, but like all good viruses he can adapt to changing condtions, and thrive. I thought the oppertunity for DUB to be a world leading hub had passed, but with a heritage like EIs and the vision of MOL DUB can still be a winner.
Not with a fleet of a few, ancient and brutally thirsty Airbus 330’s, but with 50, 100, even 200 brand new, state of the art, environmentally friendly 777’s or 787’s.
Certainly there are a few who would stand in the way of a properly run Aer Lingus, but between their desire and the fulfilment of it falls the shadow: the shadow of incompetence and self-interest. Nowhere is this more on show than with SIPTU and IALPA.
Certainly there are a few who would stand in the way of a properly run Aer Lingus, but between their desire and the fulfilment of it falls the shadow: the shadow of incompetence and self-interest. Nowhere is this more on show than with SIPTU and IALPA.
Apart from some very MOL/FR type language I have to agree with Leo on most points he makes. Short haul has been changed byond all recognition, and those of you who think long haul wont change similarly should think again. Travel is no longer a luxury for the rich and famous. Its a commodiy. The times are a changing, lets embrace change and not let ourselves get taken over by blind emotion and resistance for the sake of resistance. For far too long Ireland, DUB/SNN/ORK and other regional airports have been ruined by the rot that is Government interference and neglect, and the unions are more than happy to play along with this. Lets not let it happen yet again, just like FR has 'stuck it to them" in Europe, EI now has the oppertunity to do the same on a worldwide scale.
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I think the key question as far as long haul is, not EI -v- FR, but EI -v- CO, DL, AA, US etc etc. Don't forget that once O/S comes along (even a change in the regulations, to change the ratio of DUB:SNN flights), EI will suddenly find itself faced by significantly increased competition from all of these considerably larger US carriers. Will it be able to stand up to this and grow, or will it be snowed under? I know EI has carved out a niche for itself and that it was once a very good t/a airline; now, the sheen has faded somehow and it's not a leader in the quality field, in the way CO, VS, BA or others are. I don't want to be mean or unfair to DM, but he's been in the job a year; still, only one aircraft has modern IFE; the DXB route's success was undermined by poor scheduling (although this is being changed with the winter season, but could have been done from the outset).
I'm not trying to be mean to EI; after all, for sixteen years, since my college days, I've fought for an end to the stopover, I've done everything I possibly could to encourage a more responsible policy on aviation (particularly on the stopover), much of it with this aim in mind and I would hate to see EI being buried by these US carriers; that's why, given the choice, I'd rather see EI team up with FR than be snowed under.
My question is this: how much of what FR wants to do is impossible without full ownership. Whether EI likes it or not, MO'L and FR are there, as shareholders; why not turn this to EI's advantage? Would the fact that FR is not a majority s/h stop EI from working with FR to get a good deal on long haul aircraft? The other main reason for working with FR is that with the huge increase in opportunities brought about by Open Skies and in particular the Customs/Immigration pre-clearance in DUB, can EI - on its own - take full advantage of this? If it cannot, it's not just a case of "oh, too bad"; the status quo WON'T be maintained; other carriers will come in and take that. 12-14 aircraft is not going to do the job and that's why the wider, larger vision needs to be taken. It's not a case of just ploughing its own furrow, on its own; to make the best of the opportunities ahead, EI needs to change the way it does things. It needs to be a leader, an innovator - not just following the pack, as it always seems to do; in the new, liberated Open Aviation Area, with over 750m people (where Ireland will be slap, bang in the middle), the opportunities and advantage will belong to those willing to take the risk and if any possibility of that exists, I want EI and Ireland to be first in the queue.
That there is immense mistrust and dislike of MO'L is clear, but perhaps this could be used as a test of his bona fides; if he refuses to allow EI to benefit from its purchasing power with Boeing, or indeed, to work with EI to develop an effective, rapidly growing t/a network, then we can draw conclusions, but at least, for EI's sake, allow that 19% shareholding work for it. There's not a large time window to make this happen.
I'm not trying to be mean to EI; after all, for sixteen years, since my college days, I've fought for an end to the stopover, I've done everything I possibly could to encourage a more responsible policy on aviation (particularly on the stopover), much of it with this aim in mind and I would hate to see EI being buried by these US carriers; that's why, given the choice, I'd rather see EI team up with FR than be snowed under.
My question is this: how much of what FR wants to do is impossible without full ownership. Whether EI likes it or not, MO'L and FR are there, as shareholders; why not turn this to EI's advantage? Would the fact that FR is not a majority s/h stop EI from working with FR to get a good deal on long haul aircraft? The other main reason for working with FR is that with the huge increase in opportunities brought about by Open Skies and in particular the Customs/Immigration pre-clearance in DUB, can EI - on its own - take full advantage of this? If it cannot, it's not just a case of "oh, too bad"; the status quo WON'T be maintained; other carriers will come in and take that. 12-14 aircraft is not going to do the job and that's why the wider, larger vision needs to be taken. It's not a case of just ploughing its own furrow, on its own; to make the best of the opportunities ahead, EI needs to change the way it does things. It needs to be a leader, an innovator - not just following the pack, as it always seems to do; in the new, liberated Open Aviation Area, with over 750m people (where Ireland will be slap, bang in the middle), the opportunities and advantage will belong to those willing to take the risk and if any possibility of that exists, I want EI and Ireland to be first in the queue.
That there is immense mistrust and dislike of MO'L is clear, but perhaps this could be used as a test of his bona fides; if he refuses to allow EI to benefit from its purchasing power with Boeing, or indeed, to work with EI to develop an effective, rapidly growing t/a network, then we can draw conclusions, but at least, for EI's sake, allow that 19% shareholding work for it. There's not a large time window to make this happen.
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Before some people work themselves up to barking point in a tirade of anti-MOL/FR rhetoric, and whilst there are still a few axes left unground....
... did everyone read what Chipsbrand posted?
The sound of a nail being hit squarely on the head.
Only wish I had posted it!
EI are in the poo. The only variable is how long they will tread the stuff about.
... did everyone read what Chipsbrand posted?
The sound of a nail being hit squarely on the head.
Only wish I had posted it!
EI are in the poo. The only variable is how long they will tread the stuff about.
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Ryanair & Aer Lingus
I very much doubt that Cork features in Michael O'Leary's master plan. He has made it perfectly honest that he doesn't care about Cork. Their basing of one solitary aircraft at Cork was more to do with scaring off any other potential lcc's than showing any real commitment. If you don't believe me ask anyone what happened to Easyjet at Cork in particular. Aer Lingus is one of only two airlines who have shown Cork any real commitment (the other being Aer Arann). A Ryanair takeover would be disastrous for Cork. Ryanair would just move most of the routes to Shannon (their chosen one) and do all that was in their power to ruin Cork, if Cork do not provide them with a financially crippling deal charging virtually nothing to Ryanair. I as a Cork person am completely opposed to the deal