BOURNEMOUTH - 2

[loveJet]

totally agree with you - although im sure double daily on PIK is justified, I'm not sure the early afternoon timings will capture the day returns or business traffic that would really assist the route. But I suppose they have to work with what they can. I suppose business traffic is not high on the list of priorities at either BOH or PIK.

Edinburgh would have been a major addition - and would easily justify keeping PIK at daily initially. It could come down to the airport deal at PIK being more favourable.I'm sure it's only a matter of time before additional services and aircraft head BOH's way.

[FLYboh]

Nice to see that the BOH marketing department has kicked in to gear. Nothing other than a mention on ceefax and in the echo. The airports website only has a small press release, not bothered to list them on the destination pages or made a feature on the homepage. Not mentioned on local radio or tv.

Well done BOH, hope the routes work regardless of the lack lustre performance by the marketing department.

[BOU_PAX]

BOH Marketing - easiest job in world?

BOH has a marketing department??? I suppose there is a mention every time Wave 105 does a weather forecast, does that count.

I agree, the web site, the local rags, South Today, Meridian News, everything should be plastered with this announcement for the sake of the airport, cuz it's well documented, if FR don't do the expected numbers, MOL will just take his planes somewhere else that will then BOH will have a large new terminal rattling round with just Palmair and Channel Island passengers in it.

Talking of terminals, does this mean the reported complete date of November is now suddenly being moved back to March or will the new base of FR be a building site all summer? If you do the numbers and the timetables, at times you could have 600 passengers waiting for a flight, espically between 2pm and 4pm which could be fun.....

[QWERTY9]

Talking of the terminal and associated works !

I had the misfortune of visiting the airport a few days ago and from leaving the main road running past the airport it took 35 minutes to crawl my way past the college and up to Jet2. What a complete an utter cock-up they are making of this area.

And the speed bumps !!!!!!!! Not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6, not 7, not 8, not 9, but 10 humps in the space of one fifth of a mile with some of them no more than 6 strides apart !! What on earth is going on ?

Lets look on the bright side. It can only get worse !!

[ryanair1]

Area51

Area 51: Could you post a link on here for the article about the second aircraft.

Routes are more likely to be Belfast (4 weekly), Madrid (return) 4 weekly, Venice 3 weekly, Rome 4 weekly, Salzburg 3 weekly, Prague 3 weekly and Stockholm 3 weekly.

[BlueTui]

Tom 7741

Originally Posted by BOU PAX

Anyone know what plane was used for the P&O Cruise ship flight to Bridgetown this afternoon (767?) and why it was 5 hours late departing BOH?

I know someone going on the 11th Jan departure (no its not me) and they are curious.

Cheers

Looks like there was a delay in Punta Cana or maybe poor tailwinds, took off from LGW yesterday on time as far as i'm aware.

[Le Tirer]

ryanair1 wrote
Area 51: Could you post a link on here for the article about the second aircraft.

I read this article in the online version of the Bournemouth Echo too but strangely it no longer seems to be available!

Presumably the airport knew this announcement was coming from Ryanair so you would think they would have amendments ready to put on the website immediately. Summer destinations have still not been updated to include the new routes and I'm amazed there is nothing on the home page. The tiny press release is almost impossible to find - you have to click on the small 'About Us' tab at the top of the page and then on 'Media Centre' to get to the 'Press Release' link. Not very intuitive!

[eurostar builder]

The Bridgetown flight is running little late from Bournemouth today.

TOM7741 10:15 Bridgetown Expected Departure 11:30 .

Re Advertising
There is 1 Board for RYR with new flight on in the whole building.
Not very good.

[MARKEYD]

Great news about the Ryanair base , just what we wanted to hear and hopefully more to come .. !
For those that are interested this is the plan i think at the moment for the Ryanair aircraft based at Bournemouth to operate

MON
BOH - PIK - BOH - AGP - BOH - MJV - BOH

TUE
BOH - PIK - BOH - PMI - BOH - NTE - BOH - WRO - BOH

WED
BOH - PIK - BOH - AGP - BOH - MJV - BOH

THU
BOH - PIK - BOH - PMI - BOH - NTE - BOH - WRO - BOH

FRI
BOH - PIK - BOH - AGP - BOH - MJV - BOH

SAT
BOH - PIK - BOH - PMI - BOH - NTE - BOH - WRO - BOH

SUN
BOH - PIK - BOH - BOH - AGP - BOH - MJV - BOH

The Thomsonfly based aircraft clearly looks to be more than 1 based aircraft at certain times over the week and i guess prehaps Titan Air may well operate the extra rotations when required as they look to be advertising for cabin crew to be based at Bournemouth this summer

Possibly the Faro service on Thursday and Saturday and Malaga on Friday

[FLYboh]

Finally got to read yesterdays echo that had the article about the FR base. Very interesting to see that they plan to base a second aircraft by September and up to 4 737's by 2010. FR say they plan to fly to at least 30 destinations.

Hopefully BOH will get around to supporting the news with some advertising. I'm assuming that FR have told the airport???

[BOU_PAX]

"The Bridgetown flight is running little late from Bournemouth today.
TOM7741 10:15 Bridgetown Expected Departure 11:30"

Thanks for the info, no doubt I'll be bombarded with texts from 10pm tonight saying how much better the weather is down there, any bets I get one from the air bridge...

I have to say I'm massivly underwhelmed with BOH's marketing response to the new routes. One poster, lets hope it was at least spelt right and had the right routes on it. Clearly the marketing team excel at doing nothing and rely on word of mouth to fill the seats. Take a look at post #1 in this thread from Shamrock7seal dated December 2005 to see how little has changed in two years....

[Flitefone]

Airport Marketing

Have seen lots of disparaging comments on prune re airport marketing, and those about BOH since the FR base announcement are typical.

Remember that the first job of the airport is to sell to the airline. BOH marketing has done a good job of getting TOM, Wizz, EZY and FR to play along.

Without air services an airport is nothing. Then the airlines and airports can (maybe) work in partnership to promote routes.

Its the job of the airline to sell seats and maybe of the airport to promote routes - but remember BOH management may be constrained from shouting from the rooftops about FR because the airlines compete! FR competes with TOM and EZY and Wizz in one form or another from BOH and elsewhere. No good promoting FR if EZY marketing folks afor example are going to sulk as a consequence.

The place passengers go to look for seats is not generally an airport website, or the airport terminal - it's the airline web site that counts and decent articles in the national and international press.

A good route has originating pax from both ends.

To that point I read a very interesting piece about Bournemouth in the current edition of the Krakow Airport Magazine, tied to the new EZY route - it was hilarious to read... lots about very trare grey squirrells!

[loveJet]

Bournemouth Boom

Flitefone - good point raised. BOU_PAX, I can understand your frustration... but what is more important is BOH remaining un-biased towards particular airlines. I believe that airport marketing has been centralised for all MAG airports at East Midlands, and this could explain the less than agressive marketing activity.

Ryanair (with or without the help of BOH marketing) must consider the following: heavily market the routes in the 'outer' catchment - areas like Southampton, Portsmouth, Isle of Whight, Basingstoke etc. The people in Bmth will probably easily get wind of whats happening at BOH, but Basingstoke folks dont even know there is an airport at BOH!!

Second point: I'm a little concerned as to why Ryanair would bring Nantes and Marseille back despite the services only averaging 50/60% loads last summer; and not re-introducing Madrid or Shannon (loads at 70/80%). Yield arguments aside, this is slightly worrying - there are so many other routes out there craving to be served from BOH and if this 'one' initial aircraft is a 'test' for future additions; they could have chosen far more lucrative routes. All I can think is that NTE trip is sufficiently short to 'contribute' and allow for increased utilisation.

I've NO DOUBT easyJet will want a piece of the pie at BOH in base terms.

[egnxema]

HOw things turn out.


Remember that Buzz had just/were about to set up a BOH base, then they were taken over by FR who prompty stated they were not interested in BOH - a few years later and .......... BOH becomes a FR base.

The same happened at EMA, once called a "tertiary" airport by FR - and it is now their 3rd largest UK base after STN and LPL.

Nothing ever stays the same!

[eurostar builder]

RE (My friend works in a Thomas Cook shop on the south coast and she confimred to me that Thomas Cook Group are pulling there entire BOH flying programme for Summer 2008, not sure why yet, my friend is still trying to find out for me)

A friend of mine has just been rescheduled on a Thomas Cook Flight from Gatwick to Turkey and travelling expensies to be paid for the Airport journey.

A real shame as they wanted to avoid Gatwick

[razzele]

Has ryanair announced BOH as a base ?

[ryanair1]

yes

yes, Bournemouth is Ryanair's 24th base.

Bournemouth now has quite a few based airlines and crews:

European
Palmair (dry lease from EAC with flight deck)
Thomsonfly
Titan Airways
Ryanair

Plus the QATAR B747SP, Atlantic Airways Cargo crews and private galaxy business jets.

So where are the maintenance facilities gone! BASCO would have been making some decent cash if they'd stayed

[Nakata77]

2nd plane by Sep 2008, 3 or 4 in 2009 - 30 destinations

1,000 jobs on way for airport
From the archive, first published Thursday 10th Jan 2008.

A £60 million boost for the local economy and 1,000 new jobs at Bournemouth Airport have been promised by budget airline Ryanair with the news it is to base one of its aircraft at Hurn and add five new routes to its schedule.

The Irish airline is already the biggest operator using Bournemouth Airport, where passenger traffic topped the million mark for the first time in 2007.

And a predicted four-fold boom in passenger numbers by 2010 has been fuelled by yesterday's announcement from Ryanair that from April it will make Bournemouth a base for one of its $70 million jets to fly five new routes on top of the existing seven scheduled services.

As well as launching new regular flights to the holiday hotspots of Malaga and Murcia in Spain and Palma in Majorca, the airline is adding the Polish city of Wroclaw to its list of destinations served from Bournemouth.

The April timetable changes also include the return of a three times a week service to Nantes in the north-west of France, which was dropped from Ryanair's current winter timetable.

And with Bournemouth becoming a base airport for one of the Ryanair fleet of Boeing 737-800 jets, capacity on the Glasgow route will double to allow for day return traffic between the south coast and the Scottish city.

Ryanair already accounts for around a third of passenger traffic passing through the Hurn terminal, and bosses predict the budget airline alone will carry around a million people in and out of Bournemouth in the coming year.

A second Ryanair plane is expected to be based at Bournemouth from September, with more aircraft and routes likely to follow in its wake as the airline and airport expands in tandem towards a projected four million passengers a year.

Ryanair director of scheduled revenue Sean Coyle told a press conference that there could be three or four craft at Bournemouth flying to more than 30 destinations.

Airport managing director Peter Duffy said the terminal already had the capacity to cope with the new services taking off from April and Ryanair's expansion plans were in line with the programme of work already under way.

"This growth was always anticipated and we see no problems in accommodating it," he said.

"We intend to grow with the airport in the coming years," said Mr Coyle.

[FLYboh]

CAA provisional stats for December show that in the previous 12 months BOH handled over 1, 080,000 passengers. 2008 looks as though it will be even better, especially if FR continue with their plan for a second 737 in September. Will be interesting to see what destinations they add at that time of year.

Does anyone know when the terminal extention and new arrivals should be finished?

Any more news on Zoom or was it just one of those fantasy rumours?

[djp]

Just wish someone would bring back a German route , two times now Gerrman routes have been pulled Hahn and Pad. come back please !!!