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Arrivals hall
Theres over 60 people in this tiny hall. All facing to the toilets watching everyone movements.
A comment yesterday said a man must have designed the terminal as only had 2 ladies toliets for a flight arrival of 100 people.
Took 20 mins to leave the car park last night until the airport opened the barriers.
Lovely new road outside arrivals only used by 1 minibus.
Raining hard today and no shelter between arrivals hall and car parks
Nice bit of turf they laid though.
If we have to pay to drop off can we have at least a drop off area instead of the car park. I have seen so msny people nearly get hit by cars by reversing out whilst unlOading cars, i cant bear the thought.
Make so changes bmth apt
A comment yesterday said a man must have designed the terminal as only had 2 ladies toliets for a flight arrival of 100 people.
Took 20 mins to leave the car park last night until the airport opened the barriers.
Lovely new road outside arrivals only used by 1 minibus.
Raining hard today and no shelter between arrivals hall and car parks
Nice bit of turf they laid though.
If we have to pay to drop off can we have at least a drop off area instead of the car park. I have seen so msny people nearly get hit by cars by reversing out whilst unlOading cars, i cant bear the thought.
Make so changes bmth apt
Raining hard today and no shelter between arrivals hall and car parks
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The terminal building works haven t finished yet
The plan is to tear down the remaining out of date arrivals facility which is no longer used now . The MAG want to remove the last reminder of those shabby sheds !!
A covered walkway will then be built which will link the new terminal building to the arrivals hall once the former buildings have been demolished , then a tidy up of the remaining area is planned with it all being planned to finish at end of Oct
Have to say the arrivals hall is on the small size but there is plenty of room around the area now to expand should it become necessary ( unlikely at the moment but still a massive improvement )
Its possible the new road outside the arrivals hall may well be opened then who knows ?
Good news on Blue Islands , a small step in the right direction finally
The plan is to tear down the remaining out of date arrivals facility which is no longer used now . The MAG want to remove the last reminder of those shabby sheds !!
A covered walkway will then be built which will link the new terminal building to the arrivals hall once the former buildings have been demolished , then a tidy up of the remaining area is planned with it all being planned to finish at end of Oct
Have to say the arrivals hall is on the small size but there is plenty of room around the area now to expand should it become necessary ( unlikely at the moment but still a massive improvement )
Its possible the new road outside the arrivals hall may well be opened then who knows ?
Good news on Blue Islands , a small step in the right direction finally
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Although it's good news that Blue Islands have re-launched JER/GCI, i don't understand why it is only 3 times weekly (low frequency, less appealing) and on a J-31 (smaller capacity so higher fares).
How can they tempt people from traveling to SOU to avail of 8 daily flights to each island with a 3 weekly service from BOH!
I feel that this service will be short lived. I hope I am proved wrong.
How can they tempt people from traveling to SOU to avail of 8 daily flights to each island with a 3 weekly service from BOH!
I feel that this service will be short lived. I hope I am proved wrong.
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It is probably that SI have only restarted the Bournemouth route because of financial incentives offered by that airport. However, fares undercut Southampton but frequency is of course less.
When they say 'journeys are via Jersey but begin and end in Guernsey', that is a nice way of saying that they are only flying to one Channel Island and if you want to visit the other one then you can damn well use their indirect route.
One of the Jetstreams is off for maintainence at the moment so depending on popularity perhaps frequency will be increased next summer.
When they say 'journeys are via Jersey but begin and end in Guernsey', that is a nice way of saying that they are only flying to one Channel Island and if you want to visit the other one then you can damn well use their indirect route.
One of the Jetstreams is off for maintainence at the moment so depending on popularity perhaps frequency will be increased next summer.
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At least its a start in the right direction
I seem to remember the short lived BMI baby route only operated 3 x a week and the loads were about 44 per flight so i am guessing a 20 seater is the right config to start a new service especially in Nov
All that s needed now is to sell the route and hopefully see an increase in time for next summer
I seem to remember the short lived BMI baby route only operated 3 x a week and the loads were about 44 per flight so i am guessing a 20 seater is the right config to start a new service especially in Nov
All that s needed now is to sell the route and hopefully see an increase in time for next summer
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Great News, a 20 seat Jet 3 times per week, I bet the Huge Duty Free Shop will be taking on extra staff, and the Shops and Restaurants will be releived they will have some customers.
20 x £2.50 Drop Off Charges 3 times a week, that should cover at least 10 mins electricity.
Will there be a massive launch party with all the Management patting each other on the back ?
Congrats all round BIA/MAG good job
20 x £2.50 Drop Off Charges 3 times a week, that should cover at least 10 mins electricity.
Will there be a massive launch party with all the Management patting each other on the back ?
Congrats all round BIA/MAG good job
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Before you go on a rant, do be sure to get your facts right. The Jetstream is a turboprop. And that rant wasn't justified. It is not the airline or route that anyone is particularly worried about: people are more interested in steps in the right direction to get Bournemouth back on track. New routes (year-round) are those steps and by consequence it is only right to be positive about a thrice weekly (hopefully increasing next summer) service to Jersey.
If you want to be negative about the beginnings of growth and new routes, I would suggest that this is not the right place to do it. Everyone else on the forum has faced the reality that a once daily 747 service to New York is out of the question. Regular services on small aircraft aren't such a bad thing, and they are certainly better than nothing.
If you want to be negative about the beginnings of growth and new routes, I would suggest that this is not the right place to do it. Everyone else on the forum has faced the reality that a once daily 747 service to New York is out of the question. Regular services on small aircraft aren't such a bad thing, and they are certainly better than nothing.
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I think the poster was meaning Jetstream 31 obviously a turboprop and not a Jet so he was not making an issue over it being a Jet or Turboprop.
So 3 x weekly Blue Islands flights with a 20 pax Jetstream 31 from BOH, big deal even if you say 'at least it is in the right direction'!
Look what Southend has done with getting Easyjet and their own terminal has not even been completed yet where BOH has there 'new' terminal complete with the stupid origional check in area and it is still over looked by the likes of Easyjet for any further UK expansion.
It can't be all down to the drop off charges, recession, etc, at the end of the day something has to change at BOH as to the management structure as it is a dire situation for an airport to be in after investing so much in new facilities.
If only SOU had the length of the BOH runway and the space for further aprons then I am sure there would see a massive expansion in the area but not at BOH.
So 3 x weekly Blue Islands flights with a 20 pax Jetstream 31 from BOH, big deal even if you say 'at least it is in the right direction'!
Look what Southend has done with getting Easyjet and their own terminal has not even been completed yet where BOH has there 'new' terminal complete with the stupid origional check in area and it is still over looked by the likes of Easyjet for any further UK expansion.
It can't be all down to the drop off charges, recession, etc, at the end of the day something has to change at BOH as to the management structure as it is a dire situation for an airport to be in after investing so much in new facilities.
If only SOU had the length of the BOH runway and the space for further aprons then I am sure there would see a massive expansion in the area but not at BOH.
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A railway line direct to London and a station 100 paces from the terminal certainly helps. No doubt Stobart have made it rather worthwhile for easyJet opening a base a Southend.
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Oh please , we have been down this road so many times before Southampton v Bournemouth v rail links v road access etc etc
At the end of the day Bournemouth will never be a major player like Southampton but no one wants to see an airport / airline fail and its so incredibly easy to sit on the end of a computer keyboard and say what you should think be happening
We are in the middle of a major recision and down town turn of UK airports and Bournemouth like most has been badly hit , i am sure at some point Southampton will be hit as well
All anyone is saying is basically good luck to Blue Islands and its a very small but welcome re start for Bournemouth
Yep the 2 pound 50 pence drop off fee is naff but most other UK airports have put this in place now and others will follow , they are not going to drop this , it makes money for the airports just as it does for most car parks in England
At the end of the day Bournemouth will never be a major player like Southampton but no one wants to see an airport / airline fail and its so incredibly easy to sit on the end of a computer keyboard and say what you should think be happening
We are in the middle of a major recision and down town turn of UK airports and Bournemouth like most has been badly hit , i am sure at some point Southampton will be hit as well
All anyone is saying is basically good luck to Blue Islands and its a very small but welcome re start for Bournemouth
Yep the 2 pound 50 pence drop off fee is naff but most other UK airports have put this in place now and others will follow , they are not going to drop this , it makes money for the airports just as it does for most car parks in England
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Blueislands - not competitive
We all know that the reason for BOH's passenger numbers in recent years has been the result of LCC development.
This is because of SOU's close proximity and their focus on business and high frequency.
So why would an airline charge more to fly from BOH on smaller aircraft and with an inferior frequency?
Fly out on Mon 1st Nov and return 3rd and you find the following fares:
BOH 148 return - Blue islands J-31
SOU 146 return - Blue islands J-31
SOU 85.98 return - Flybe Dash 8
This BOH route will struggle to get more than 50% load factor, with a high chance of failure in the first year if they do not address this issue.
It should be a minimum of a daily service with a 50 seat a/c so as to get the fares more in line with the competition.
What use is an additional 250 pax per month for BOH?!
This is because of SOU's close proximity and their focus on business and high frequency.
So why would an airline charge more to fly from BOH on smaller aircraft and with an inferior frequency?
Fly out on Mon 1st Nov and return 3rd and you find the following fares:
BOH 148 return - Blue islands J-31
SOU 146 return - Blue islands J-31
SOU 85.98 return - Flybe Dash 8
This BOH route will struggle to get more than 50% load factor, with a high chance of failure in the first year if they do not address this issue.
It should be a minimum of a daily service with a 50 seat a/c so as to get the fares more in line with the competition.
What use is an additional 250 pax per month for BOH?!
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I agree with that, if you are starting a service you need to compete, still there are bigger questions.
Why is BOH staying Open ?
And before everyone jumps down my throat, the GA and mail flights can't touch the sides of the running costs of that new terminal.
Is it another one of those " too big to fail " companies
Why is BOH staying Open ?
And before everyone jumps down my throat, the GA and mail flights can't touch the sides of the running costs of that new terminal.
Is it another one of those " too big to fail " companies
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They seem to be marketing the new channel islands services very heavily, including prominence on their website. And yet the Friday Thomas Cook Airlines B757 flights to Dalaman have been cancelled!
The total TCX cancelations could have amounted to a few thousand passengers, more than the Channel islands will do in a whole year. Why didn't marketing help support those flights or prevent them from being cancelled?
The total TCX cancelations could have amounted to a few thousand passengers, more than the Channel islands will do in a whole year. Why didn't marketing help support those flights or prevent them from being cancelled?
Why is BOH staying Open ?
And before everyone jumps down my throat, the GA and mail flights can't touch the sides of the running costs of that new terminal.
And before everyone jumps down my throat, the GA and mail flights can't touch the sides of the running costs of that new terminal.
E.G. Cobham (starting a major contract for the A330 Voyager alongside all their other actvities), European with their engineering/painting business, Citation Centre, etc.
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Originally Posted by Groundloop:6750166
Why is BOH staying Open ?
And before everyone jumps down my throat, the GA and mail flights can't touch the sides of the running costs of that new terminal.
And before everyone jumps down my throat, the GA and mail flights can't touch the sides of the running costs of that new terminal.
E.G. Cobham (starting a major contract for the A330 Voyager alongside all their other actvities), European with their engineering/painting business, Citation Centre, etc.
Big business park too raking in huge profits, commercial traffic is not the be all and end all of EGHH, it's not recession proof just recession resistant...LOL
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Its a mess i agree , but at least Bournemouth is still in the running compared with a lot of other smaller regional airports at the moment
This winter is going to be grim again and even next summer is tough again
Thomas Cook loads at the peak time of July / August were full up according to local travel agents but the rest of the time not , hence the cancellation of the season early , and now the news they will not be return next summer another big loss . I would question them even putting on the Dalaman and Antalya services this year in competition with Thomson , they should have gone for Crete and Mahon and Portugal on the A320 which has always been popular and full loads for years now ( sadly missing since Palmair ) with the help of the airport marketing department ( would really like to speak to them as they seem so out of touch with route developments , all of us seem to know more than they do )
Inghams Ski this winter is a disgrace to lose this route as always been full and dont understand how this could have happened ?
Blue Islands we will just have to wait and see , on some days they are way more more expensive than Flybe and on other days well cheaper !!
Atlantic holidays have at least returned to BOH with a few Funchal flights and Newmarket have also returned again with a good programme next summer but Thomson still seem reluctant to try new destinations next summer especially as they could use there aircraft far more efficiently with more night flights to places like Crete , Spain , Portugal
Fingers crossed for some good news !
This winter is going to be grim again and even next summer is tough again
Thomas Cook loads at the peak time of July / August were full up according to local travel agents but the rest of the time not , hence the cancellation of the season early , and now the news they will not be return next summer another big loss . I would question them even putting on the Dalaman and Antalya services this year in competition with Thomson , they should have gone for Crete and Mahon and Portugal on the A320 which has always been popular and full loads for years now ( sadly missing since Palmair ) with the help of the airport marketing department ( would really like to speak to them as they seem so out of touch with route developments , all of us seem to know more than they do )
Inghams Ski this winter is a disgrace to lose this route as always been full and dont understand how this could have happened ?
Blue Islands we will just have to wait and see , on some days they are way more more expensive than Flybe and on other days well cheaper !!
Atlantic holidays have at least returned to BOH with a few Funchal flights and Newmarket have also returned again with a good programme next summer but Thomson still seem reluctant to try new destinations next summer especially as they could use there aircraft far more efficiently with more night flights to places like Crete , Spain , Portugal
Fingers crossed for some good news !
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Some more good news?
It has been mentioned in the Ryanair thread there they will soon set up a base at Wroclaw with 2 ac and it seems that Bournemouth is one of the destinations they will serve, although there is no indication to when this route will start or the frequency.
Also I believe they did used to fly the route a couple of years ago around 3x per week. Does anyone know how well it performed?
Also I believe they did used to fly the route a couple of years ago around 3x per week. Does anyone know how well it performed?