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Looking at the flight times another evening flight will operate over S07. The TFS returns to base at 17.20, perhaps with ATH going out again for S07 if they made a profit on the route for S06.
They may also increase the base to 2 A/C if they have the resources. At the moment the plans are for 14 B737s for S07:
1 ABZ based
1 STN based
1/2 MME based
1 LPL based
6 GLA based
3/4 EDI based (possibly 5 EDI based inc. Jet2 A/C)
B767s:
3 B767 GLA based, 1 B757 GLA based
1 B767 MAN based, 1 B757 MAN based
1 B757 STN based
They may also increase the base to 2 A/C if they have the resources. At the moment the plans are for 14 B737s for S07:
1 ABZ based
1 STN based
1/2 MME based
1 LPL based
6 GLA based
3/4 EDI based (possibly 5 EDI based inc. Jet2 A/C)
B767s:
3 B767 GLA based, 1 B757 GLA based
1 B767 MAN based, 1 B757 MAN based
1 B757 STN based
don't forget about the 700's and the 800 that will be coming shortly, last i heard they were still on the prod line and nearly finished.
oh 300 is doing Chambrey by the way.
Webby says "possibly 5 EDI based inc. jet2 A/C".
if FGS operate 3 and Jet2 operate 3 then thats 3 at the moment and not
counting future arrivals.
I shall try to find out more.
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Ah now the 800's are going across the pond up over Keflavik then refuell at St John's I believe. and down to Sanford.
Inflight entertainment would be portable DVD players handed out to pax.
Why dont they just fit screen as A/C are entertainment ready anyway.
Inflight entertainment would be portable DVD players handed out to pax.
Why dont they just fit screen as A/C are entertainment ready anyway.
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Looking at the flight times another evening flight will operate over S07. The TFS returns to base at 17.20, perhaps with ATH going out again for S07 if they made a profit on the route for S06.
They may also increase the base to 2 A/C if they have the resources. At the moment the plans are for 14 B737s for S07:
1 ABZ based
1 STN based
1/2 MME based
1 LPL based
6 GLA based
3/4 EDI based (possibly 5 EDI based inc. Jet2 A/C)
B767s:
3 B767 GLA based, 1 B757 GLA based
1 B767 MAN based, 1 B757 MAN based
1 B757 STN based
They may also increase the base to 2 A/C if they have the resources. At the moment the plans are for 14 B737s for S07:
1 ABZ based
1 STN based
1/2 MME based
1 LPL based
6 GLA based
3/4 EDI based (possibly 5 EDI based inc. Jet2 A/C)
B767s:
3 B767 GLA based, 1 B757 GLA based
1 B767 MAN based, 1 B757 MAN based
1 B757 STN based
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Ok let me ask you this then. exactly how much does FGS use Jet2???
I know the answer but would like to see the response.
EDI FGS will have 5 or 6 A/C next year but thats not using Jet2 either believe me.
Ok let me ask you this then. exactly how much does FGS use Jet2???
I know the answer but would like to see the response.
EDI FGS will have 5 or 6 A/C next year but thats not using Jet2 either believe me.
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I couldn't tell you exactly but PMI, BCN and AGP seem to see a lot of Jet2 use over the summer as well as MAH and PUY before it orginated in GLA were operated by Jet2 every week, as it sounds like you know...
Are you suggesting GSM are going to have 5 or 6 aircraft base next summer comprised entirely of their own aircraft? I'm not quite sure how that is possible with the requirement for aircraft at GLA, MME, STN, ABZ and presumably LPL. Care to tell us more?
I couldn't tell you exactly but PMI, BCN and AGP seem to see a lot of Jet2 use over the summer as well as MAH and PUY before it orginated in GLA were operated by Jet2 every week, as it sounds like you know...
Are you suggesting GSM are going to have 5 or 6 aircraft base next summer comprised entirely of their own aircraft? I'm not quite sure how that is possible with the requirement for aircraft at GLA, MME, STN, ABZ and presumably LPL. Care to tell us more?
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'Across the pond'-Breagh01
I can't believe they'd use a 737NG on a routing via St.Johns. It would make more sense to route via KBGR where the pax and crews can clear the drag of U.S. Immigration and Customs while the A/C is being cleaned, refuelled and catered therefore entering KBOS, KJFK or KSFB as a 'domestic' flight.
KBGR or Bangor,Maine used to thrive on those kinds of op's when most UK Charter carriers used B757's on the US/Caribbean routes. Carriers like Air2Bob, Britannia, Airtours, Monarch all had a bunch of crews floating through KBGR which meant you always had some precious 'Standby' cover for both cabin crew & flight deck.
Just a thought.
KBGR or Bangor,Maine used to thrive on those kinds of op's when most UK Charter carriers used B757's on the US/Caribbean routes. Carriers like Air2Bob, Britannia, Airtours, Monarch all had a bunch of crews floating through KBGR which meant you always had some precious 'Standby' cover for both cabin crew & flight deck.
Just a thought.
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If they are going to use a 738 to SFB from GLA, what are they going to do with the 767s? Additionally, if this flight is operated on smaller aircraft and has an en-route refuelling stop it's hardly going to help it's popularity - Surely one of the main attractions up till now is the fact its a non-stop flight?
I certainly wouldn't be particularly attracted to a flight with such a stop and I suspect many others would feel the same and revert to flying with in-situ US carriers via their hubs.
And what about BOS? It's never been clearly stated (to my knowledge) what a/c type is going to operate it - I guess it will be a mix? If a 738 is used, can GSMs ones make it to BOS non-stop?
Interestingly, although a lot of people will be booking thier hoildays for next summer at this time of year, I don't think I've seen any advertsing whatsoever for the GSMs planned GLA-BOS service. They seem to expect people just to automatically go and book, but if they don't advertise it widely in a range of media outlets then it'll go the same way as the planned LAS and BGI flights (which again I never saw advertised - how are people supposed to know they exist?
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I certainly wouldn't be particularly attracted to a flight with such a stop and I suspect many others would feel the same and revert to flying with in-situ US carriers via their hubs.And what about BOS? It's never been clearly stated (to my knowledge) what a/c type is going to operate it - I guess it will be a mix? If a 738 is used, can GSMs ones make it to BOS non-stop?
Interestingly, although a lot of people will be booking thier hoildays for next summer at this time of year, I don't think I've seen any advertsing whatsoever for the GSMs planned GLA-BOS service. They seem to expect people just to automatically go and book, but if they don't advertise it widely in a range of media outlets then it'll go the same way as the planned LAS and BGI flights (which again I never saw advertised - how are people supposed to know they exist?
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I thought the lack of advertising was a south east problem only, but it seems not, GSM pilled Stansted Chambery due lack of booking, this route and the Tenerife and Athens were not advertised, only on there web site, this cant be good for the airline and things must change.
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In my opinion, the (4) B763's will be used for the GLA-SFB & MAN-CPT which are already sold or selling. A third B763 developing & serving STN routes possibly to SFB & others, with a 4th aircraft available for lucrative 3rd Party work and/or an in-house Standby unit.
Once the route network has stabilised, any identifiable 'gaps' in the programme, in addition to scheduled 'downtime', could be filled with responses to demand for extra or reduced capacity by substituting the 763's with 752's and vice versa plus interchanging the 752's with 738's as and when required, as capacity demand dictates.
Once the programme settles down, it wouldn't suprise me if GLA, STN and MAN/LPL each had at least a 763, a 752 & a 738, with a 'spare' 763 & 752 floating between EDI, NCL as well as GLA, STN & MAN/LPL. The bulk of the 73's filling the 'bread and butter' core bases within Scotland & Northern England.
Exciting times ahead.
Once the route network has stabilised, any identifiable 'gaps' in the programme, in addition to scheduled 'downtime', could be filled with responses to demand for extra or reduced capacity by substituting the 763's with 752's and vice versa plus interchanging the 752's with 738's as and when required, as capacity demand dictates.
Once the programme settles down, it wouldn't suprise me if GLA, STN and MAN/LPL each had at least a 763, a 752 & a 738, with a 'spare' 763 & 752 floating between EDI, NCL as well as GLA, STN & MAN/LPL. The bulk of the 73's filling the 'bread and butter' core bases within Scotland & Northern England.
Exciting times ahead.
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It would be a very good move to expand long haul routes
out of Stansted, I cant understand why it has not happend
before only by Maxjet and Eos.
But by the looks of things summer 07 only looks like Tenerife
and Toronto from GSM, or is there more to be announced,
its getting on abit if there is
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out of Stansted, I cant understand why it has not happend
before only by Maxjet and Eos.
But by the looks of things summer 07 only looks like Tenerife
and Toronto from GSM, or is there more to be announced,
its getting on abit if there is
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If they are going to use a 738 to SFB from GLA, what are they going to do with the 767s? Additionally, if this flight is operated on smaller aircraft and has an en-route refuelling stop it's hardly going to help it's popularity - Surely one of the main attractions up till now is the fact its a non-stop flight? I certainly wouldn't be particularly attracted to a flight with such a stop and I suspect many others would feel the same and revert to flying with in-situ US carriers via their hubs.
And what about BOS? It's never been clearly stated (to my knowledge) what a/c type is going to operate it - I guess it will be a mix? If a 738 is used, can GSMs ones make it to BOS non-stop?
Interestingly, although a lot of people will be booking thier hoildays for next summer at this time of year, I don't think I've seen any advertsing whatsoever for the GSMs planned GLA-BOS service. They seem to expect people just to automatically go and book, but if they don't advertise it widely in a range of media outlets then it'll go the same way as the planned LAS and BGI flights (which again I never saw advertised - how are people supposed to know they exist? )
I certainly wouldn't be particularly attracted to a flight with such a stop and I suspect many others would feel the same and revert to flying with in-situ US carriers via their hubs.And what about BOS? It's never been clearly stated (to my knowledge) what a/c type is going to operate it - I guess it will be a mix? If a 738 is used, can GSMs ones make it to BOS non-stop?
Interestingly, although a lot of people will be booking thier hoildays for next summer at this time of year, I don't think I've seen any advertsing whatsoever for the GSMs planned GLA-BOS service. They seem to expect people just to automatically go and book, but if they don't advertise it widely in a range of media outlets then it'll go the same way as the planned LAS and BGI flights (which again I never saw advertised - how are people supposed to know they exist?
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Anyone notice that the GSM 763s only have front and rear doors, how is this going to work in a 3 class sector. Walking through first class to get to economy ?, unless they use remote stands at Manchester, first and economy plus boarding at front and economy at rear or will they have first class at rear.