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Jet2's plans seem to be changing by the minute. According to the 'Jet2' thread 2 757 and 2 737 are to be based, alongside 146 for the LGW runs. However, last plans were for 1 757 and 3 737, which is not actually enough for the current schedule.
Take a monday for example:
A/C 1 - 0640/0945 LGW
1015/1315 LGW
A/C 2 - 1010/1635 KRK
A/C 3 - 1030/1710 PMI
A/C 4 - 1255/1935 MJV
Still leaves PSA 1030/1710, ORK 1630/1930 - so maybe 5 based aircraft is happening, with the addition of 146 for the new LGW route?
Take a monday for example:
A/C 1 - 0640/0945 LGW
1015/1315 LGW
A/C 2 - 1010/1635 KRK
A/C 3 - 1030/1710 PMI
A/C 4 - 1255/1935 MJV
Still leaves PSA 1030/1710, ORK 1630/1930 - so maybe 5 based aircraft is happening, with the addition of 146 for the new LGW route?
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They could plan to re-time some flights?!?! Not sure!
It would appear the 146 is going to do LGW which is a tad odd and probably means they will stop their MAN-LGW route. Could we see a frequency increase? It does look like sales are going quite well on a route that has only been open for bookings for a couple of days and doesn't start til March.
If we do get more LS aircraft based would this mean opening any new routes? I wonder if they're waiting for EZY to release their summer schedule to see if SXF will make a return? It was certainly carrying enough pax for it to be sustainable, even if it is not daily but 4-5 per week.
EZY
I doubt we're going to see any new EZY destinations for a while. They certainly seem to have missed the boat on LGW and I am not sure they would want to compete. Not entirely sure what is going on with them but it does appear their taxes/charges on most routes have almost doubled lately! Doesn't actually make them that cheap!
I just hope we keep the SXF route one way or another - it's popular with both Brits and Germans alike!
BE
I see there is still no news on BE and those rumoured destinations though most of their summer 07 schedule appears not to be out yet so anything is possible. Would love them to start CPH - it's a big missing link for NCL.
They could plan to re-time some flights?!?! Not sure!
It would appear the 146 is going to do LGW which is a tad odd and probably means they will stop their MAN-LGW route. Could we see a frequency increase? It does look like sales are going quite well on a route that has only been open for bookings for a couple of days and doesn't start til March.
If we do get more LS aircraft based would this mean opening any new routes? I wonder if they're waiting for EZY to release their summer schedule to see if SXF will make a return? It was certainly carrying enough pax for it to be sustainable, even if it is not daily but 4-5 per week.
EZY
I doubt we're going to see any new EZY destinations for a while. They certainly seem to have missed the boat on LGW and I am not sure they would want to compete. Not entirely sure what is going on with them but it does appear their taxes/charges on most routes have almost doubled lately! Doesn't actually make them that cheap!
I just hope we keep the SXF route one way or another - it's popular with both Brits and Germans alike!
BE
I see there is still no news on BE and those rumoured destinations though most of their summer 07 schedule appears not to be out yet so anything is possible. Would love them to start CPH - it's a big missing link for NCL.
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Are you just checkin out the website though?
i found out what was operating because i have access to the airkiosk system they use which requires log ins etc.
think a lot of retiming needs to be done cos at the moment there are a lot of flights going out about 10ish with not enough aircraft
i found out what was operating because i have access to the airkiosk system they use which requires log ins etc.
think a lot of retiming needs to be done cos at the moment there are a lot of flights going out about 10ish with not enough aircraft
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I think nclairportfan is correct I cant see easyjet adding any new routes out of newcastle for a while. They have reduced the number of routes from Newcastle by 3 this year and last year pulled plans to base an additional aircraft at Newcastle at the last minute. Originally this aircraft was to arrive in November 06.
On the subject of my earlier comment on the airport management not getting their act together on the New York route, I think its a valid comment remember that two airlines were interested in this route AA and Continental but the latter could not start operations until summer 07 so the airport went with AA. This decision proved an error, its worth remembering that Continental have a proven track record operating from smaller European airports AA do not, mainly concentrating on larger airports. Newcastle is now in the position where CO are no longer interested in flying to NCL, a recent fact put out from their Houston HQ.
On the Jet2 front I would imagine at least one extra route, if nothing else to keep the 146 busy in the afternoon as it looks to be sitting around alot. As no Amsterdam SO7 has been announced, does anyonw know if this has been pulled as the jet 2 737 aircraft are already well used and I cant see where the spare capacity is for Amsterdam. Does anyone out their know?
On the subject of my earlier comment on the airport management not getting their act together on the New York route, I think its a valid comment remember that two airlines were interested in this route AA and Continental but the latter could not start operations until summer 07 so the airport went with AA. This decision proved an error, its worth remembering that Continental have a proven track record operating from smaller European airports AA do not, mainly concentrating on larger airports. Newcastle is now in the position where CO are no longer interested in flying to NCL, a recent fact put out from their Houston HQ.
On the Jet2 front I would imagine at least one extra route, if nothing else to keep the 146 busy in the afternoon as it looks to be sitting around alot. As no Amsterdam SO7 has been announced, does anyonw know if this has been pulled as the jet 2 737 aircraft are already well used and I cant see where the spare capacity is for Amsterdam. Does anyone out their know?
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ncleflights [QUOTE] On the subject of my earlier comment on the airport management not getting their act together on the New York route, I think its a valid comment.
Come on, give these guys a break!! I am sure the management are busting a gut attempting to attract an airline to operate the NCL - New York route. This would be a very lucrative route for the Airport, so to say that they aren't trying to attract an airline to operate the route is ludicrous.
When AA pulled the route last year the Airport did say that it would be "actively looking for another airline to operate the route" and this is obviously going to take time (more time than previously anticipated).
This week the NCL thread has been full of rumour of the NCL - DXB route kicking off Sept 07. Everyone knows that the management have been in close talks with Emirates so this is likely to turn out to be true. (airbridge on stand 9 is getting built for someone)
This week BA pulled the LGW route and within 2 days they announced another airline to operate the route!!!
With all the extra Jet 2 routes that have recently been announced and additional based aircraft for next summer. Extra routes with Ryanair and dont forget FlyBe said they would be making a massive announcement about additional routes from NCL + extra routes from Thomson Fly.
So when you take the blinkers off and look at the bigger picture it would appear that the management at NCL have in fact got their act together in genrerating route development from NCL and are doing a good job.
As I said earlier it's obvoiusly going to take a bit longer than previously anticipated in attracting a carrier to operate to NCL from NYC. The route will eventually come we just need to be patient and give it maybe a another 12 months. After this time, and we still have no NYC route then jump on the management.
And before everyone jumps on me, NO i'm not management and certainly no
licker!!
Come on, give these guys a break!! I am sure the management are busting a gut attempting to attract an airline to operate the NCL - New York route. This would be a very lucrative route for the Airport, so to say that they aren't trying to attract an airline to operate the route is ludicrous.
When AA pulled the route last year the Airport did say that it would be "actively looking for another airline to operate the route" and this is obviously going to take time (more time than previously anticipated).
This week the NCL thread has been full of rumour of the NCL - DXB route kicking off Sept 07. Everyone knows that the management have been in close talks with Emirates so this is likely to turn out to be true. (airbridge on stand 9 is getting built for someone)
This week BA pulled the LGW route and within 2 days they announced another airline to operate the route!!!
With all the extra Jet 2 routes that have recently been announced and additional based aircraft for next summer. Extra routes with Ryanair and dont forget FlyBe said they would be making a massive announcement about additional routes from NCL + extra routes from Thomson Fly.
So when you take the blinkers off and look at the bigger picture it would appear that the management at NCL have in fact got their act together in genrerating route development from NCL and are doing a good job.
As I said earlier it's obvoiusly going to take a bit longer than previously anticipated in attracting a carrier to operate to NCL from NYC. The route will eventually come we just need to be patient and give it maybe a another 12 months. After this time, and we still have no NYC route then jump on the management.
And before everyone jumps on me, NO i'm not management and certainly no
licker!!
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I think we need to be aware that these are all not independent sources. It all started on a German forum, then made its way to PPRUNE and then onwards to other forums. It all boils down to an information posted by a German Emirates employee (whom I have get to known to be extremely reliable, hence my post here).
Same, by the way, with the Easyjet EDI-MUC information I posted the other week. Within days, you found this in various forums and even in some newspapers...
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i had heard that jet2 wanted big expansion at newc, it was ment to be the 3rd biggest base. not sure where the xtra aircraft are going to come from though. i know that we now have 9 757s for summer and 3 extra 737s will join the fleet soon, but had heard they where finding trouble sourcing decent 737-300s.... maybe thats where the 737-400 rumour started.
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[quote=Ops Guy;2986008]ncleflights [QUOTE]
"Come on, give these guys a break!! I am sure the management are busting a gut attempting to attract an airline to operate the NCL - New York route. This would be a very lucrative route for the Airport, so to say that they aren't trying to attract an airline to operate the route is ludicrous."
Sorry I still stand by my comment, its a fact that they made a mistake if they had gone for Continental instaead of AA we would have had the route operating from next summer, albeit a year later than AA planned. Who are we meant to blame for this one ncle management after all made the decision.
My comment never criticised that management at the airport about the other airlines that they have brought to ncle but anyone with any business sense must recognise that they made a mistake on the New York front. Continental were the airline with the proven track record operating from smaller UK airports (Belfast, Bristol, Birmingham, Edinburgh). Who exactly are they going to bring in both Continental and Delta have confirmed that they have no plans for a Newcastle route in any of their business plans for the next two years. Who therefore are they busting a gut with to bring in?
"Come on, give these guys a break!! I am sure the management are busting a gut attempting to attract an airline to operate the NCL - New York route. This would be a very lucrative route for the Airport, so to say that they aren't trying to attract an airline to operate the route is ludicrous."
Sorry I still stand by my comment, its a fact that they made a mistake if they had gone for Continental instaead of AA we would have had the route operating from next summer, albeit a year later than AA planned. Who are we meant to blame for this one ncle management after all made the decision.
My comment never criticised that management at the airport about the other airlines that they have brought to ncle but anyone with any business sense must recognise that they made a mistake on the New York front. Continental were the airline with the proven track record operating from smaller UK airports (Belfast, Bristol, Birmingham, Edinburgh). Who exactly are they going to bring in both Continental and Delta have confirmed that they have no plans for a Newcastle route in any of their business plans for the next two years. Who therefore are they busting a gut with to bring in?
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Well I certainly hope it is not GSM with an infrequent service & an Irish stopover in 'Knock' ? as is being mooted for their LPL - NYC 
....Suppose they must see that as a better solution for revenue generation than somehow linking in MME 
....Suppose they must see that as a better solution for revenue generation than somehow linking in MME
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couldn't agree more skyman771, GSM Atlantic schedule seems to change on a weekly basis, first it was via St Johns now its Knock. I don't think we will see any increase in their long haul aspirations for a while.
couldn't agree more skyman771, GSM Atlantic schedule seems to change on a weekly basis, first it was via St Johns now its Knock. I don't think we will see any increase in their long haul aspirations for a while.
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EZY
I doubt we're going to see any new EZY destinations for a while. They certainly seem to have missed the boat on LGW and I am not sure they would want to compete. Not entirely sure what is going on with them but it does appear their taxes/charges on most routes have almost doubled lately! Doesn't actually make them that cheap!
I just hope we keep the SXF route one way or another - it's popular with both Brits and Germans alike!
I doubt we're going to see any new EZY destinations for a while. They certainly seem to have missed the boat on LGW and I am not sure they would want to compete. Not entirely sure what is going on with them but it does appear their taxes/charges on most routes have almost doubled lately! Doesn't actually make them that cheap!
I just hope we keep the SXF route one way or another - it's popular with both Brits and Germans alike!
Also, your comment about how "easyJet doesnt want to compete" is probably gone with the wind, following their 2 new routes that happen to be Jet2 head to heads.
Very keen to see what days their 4 x week to KRK will be operating, compared to the 2 x week service Jet2 has got.