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STN has so much potential,in the right hands of course.
The question is where else can Ryanair expand in the London area except for STN.
Too late for LGW? SEN maybe?
Both LGW and LTN have master plans awaiting approval.Both major Easy bases.
Should we ask if either of those airports actually want a larger Ryan presence!
Then there is the problem of attracting other airlines to STN given a Ryanair dominance.
I always thought Wizz might get attracted from LTN to STN by a new owner with a deal but the longer it goes on I think the more unlikely as LTN will probably have expanded to cope.
So another appeal,another year of uncertainty and the thought of another 40 a/c in blue.
Good luck to any potential future owner of STN.
The question is where else can Ryanair expand in the London area except for STN.
Too late for LGW? SEN maybe?
Both LGW and LTN have master plans awaiting approval.Both major Easy bases.
Should we ask if either of those airports actually want a larger Ryan presence!
Then there is the problem of attracting other airlines to STN given a Ryanair dominance.
I always thought Wizz might get attracted from LTN to STN by a new owner with a deal but the longer it goes on I think the more unlikely as LTN will probably have expanded to cope.
So another appeal,another year of uncertainty and the thought of another 40 a/c in blue.
Good luck to any potential future owner of STN.
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Perhaps RYR might be the future owner? What a thought. They can certainly afford it. It might be easier than anyone else having to negotiate with them. Very seriously I cannot see that anyone will be able to but STN with confidence unless they have a deal with RYR. It puts that airline in a very strong position. No wonder BAA dont want to sell. They will get virtually nothing if they sell it. They will be sued for monopoly practices if they dont. Their main customer hates them. How can Colin Matthews sleep at night? Do we care?
Stansted was developed for political reasons when BAA was Government-owned. It is simply in the wrong place. Its UK connections are poor, other than to NE London (not a prime travel destination).
It can only ever be an 'overspill' airport when other London area airports fill up. That is the reason it is emptying fast at present - Gatwick has become more customer-friendly. Luton is nearer to key markets (Central London and M1 corridor). London City has its own niche and Southend is competing on price, but also has faster turn-rounds and shorter flight times to most destinations. All offer a better customer experience to both passenger and airline than STN.
Undoubtedly STN will win some traffic back when the economy improves, but even then it will need to work hard to attract airlines to a remote airport dominated by the lowest-cost and most aggressive competitor.
Perhaps FR will buy it - that's the only way the airport will stay on good terms with its dominant client!
It can only ever be an 'overspill' airport when other London area airports fill up. That is the reason it is emptying fast at present - Gatwick has become more customer-friendly. Luton is nearer to key markets (Central London and M1 corridor). London City has its own niche and Southend is competing on price, but also has faster turn-rounds and shorter flight times to most destinations. All offer a better customer experience to both passenger and airline than STN.
Undoubtedly STN will win some traffic back when the economy improves, but even then it will need to work hard to attract airlines to a remote airport dominated by the lowest-cost and most aggressive competitor.
Perhaps FR will buy it - that's the only way the airport will stay on good terms with its dominant client!
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I believe MAG have expressed an interest in buying STN. Keen to get a foothold in the London market place as I recall.
It might be worth noting that the other major disadvantage STN has against LTN & SEN is that it is regulated along with LHR & LGW. I hope we can accept that STN cannot seriously compete with LHR regardless of ownership - LHR being a hub airport. LGW is arguably a different catchment area from a European route perspective so many routes can happilly co-exist at both airports. Longer haul, well maybe a new owner might have some initiatives to attract more routes but I suspect it will take a financial upturn & some considerable time / effort before that comes to fruition.
It might be worth noting that the other major disadvantage STN has against LTN & SEN is that it is regulated along with LHR & LGW. I hope we can accept that STN cannot seriously compete with LHR regardless of ownership - LHR being a hub airport. LGW is arguably a different catchment area from a European route perspective so many routes can happilly co-exist at both airports. Longer haul, well maybe a new owner might have some initiatives to attract more routes but I suspect it will take a financial upturn & some considerable time / effort before that comes to fruition.
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A380 - STN
Thats a good question, who will handle it and have they got the suitable equipment to actually handle this aircraft ?
Has the handling companies got a pushback tug capable of moving this aircraft, cant see it sitting on a terminal stand for a week
Has the handling companies got a pushback tug capable of moving this aircraft, cant see it sitting on a terminal stand for a week
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"Has the handling companies got a pushback tug capable of moving this aircraft, cant see it sitting on a terminal stand for a week"
STN isn't the sole domain of harp adorned 737/8s and orange A319s.
One of these fully laden won't be much lighter than an A380
http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../7/2119796.jpg
Or there is always the Brazilian solution I saw at IGU - I'm sure there are some local farmers who would help out!
http://img296.imagevenue.com/img.php..._122_507lo.jpg
STN isn't the sole domain of harp adorned 737/8s and orange A319s.
One of these fully laden won't be much lighter than an A380
http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../7/2119796.jpg
Or there is always the Brazilian solution I saw at IGU - I'm sure there are some local farmers who would help out!
http://img296.imagevenue.com/img.php..._122_507lo.jpg
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will now be operating an A330 on satellite one stand a13 tomorrow handled by swissport.The A380 would have parked on that stand too. Still a possibility of the A380 coming on the 6th for the return flight if the chinese government let them operate it at stansted.
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