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Old 31st Dec 2012, 23:30
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Those 7 trains all serve St Pancras and its Underground network of the Northern line, Victoria Line, Piccadilly Line, Hammersmith & City and the Metropolitan

Some of those trains also have direct links to the District Line, Jubilee line and the Bakerloo line via stations at Blackfriars, Elephant & Castle and London Bridge.

The truth is all of Londons airports are well connected once you hit the Underground.
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Old 3rd Jan 2013, 21:55
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FRaSTN - I thought at STN the monorail/transit also served satellite 2 which does involve some Ryanair flights.
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Old 3rd Jan 2013, 22:18
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ryanair fly domestic flights from sat 2
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Old 3rd Jan 2013, 22:38
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As in Derry? As that (I think) is the only domestic route they now serve. I know that I have flown international on FR from satellite 2 at some point in the last couple of years.
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Old 4th Jan 2013, 04:07
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Ryanair do operate some flights out of SAT 2 with their domestics but the monorail does not serve SAT 2 as there is a direct walkway from the terminal building.
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Old 4th Jan 2013, 08:58
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Sat 2 from what I remember has 2 levels an international level
And a domestic level.
The domestic level is served by a walk way to and from
The terminal building and the international level is served
By the transit system.
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Old 4th Jan 2013, 09:59
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Correct, and FR use it for first wave departures, as there is not enough room on Sat 3, after first wave it is moth-balled for the day.
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Old 4th Jan 2013, 14:28
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In July 2011, we flew with Ryanair to Rhodes with a 07:20 departure and that went from Satellite 2, gate 80-something and we got there via the walkway from the departure lounge.

There is no seperate levels for domestic and international flights. The highest level (with the all the green tinted glass) is the DEPARTURES level and there is a level beneath it which is less visable from the outside which is beneath this and that is where the ARRIVING passengers go. Satellite 1 I beleive is the same.

Satellite 3 has no airgates which of course suits Ryanair's preferences so all arriving passengers walk off the plane via aircraft steps and walk into the arrivals area of Satellite 3 at ground level (which is what I did on the return from Rhodes).

I think that it is EasyJet who use Satellite 1 for international flights and Satellite 2 for domestic flights and where the monorail is concerned, I beleive that it serves Satellite 1 for arrivals and departures but only serves Satellite 2 for international arriving passengers since international arrivals is to the oppisite end of the main terminal building and too far to walk. That may explain why EasyJet use Satellite 2 for domestic flights as domestic arrivals is at the same end as the departure lounge, so no need for the monorail.
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Old 5th Jan 2013, 21:30
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I have taken a Ryanair flight to Carcassonne from Sat 2 before and that was a mid morning flight and I accessed the SAT 2 via the direct walkway from the Terminal
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Old 6th Jan 2013, 09:36
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Sat 2 departure gates upstair are monorail served from memory. I have the gate/stand tie up for the downstairs gates somewhere.
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Old 9th Jan 2013, 09:20
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Stansted Express

There was a brief report on BBC Look East this morning to say that the Stansted Express Line was getting approximately 2 Billion pounds worth of funding which was announced by the Government yesterday. The funding was said to be going into the infrastructure of line to hopefully reduce Journey times to under 30 minutes.
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Old 9th Jan 2013, 09:59
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the infrastructure is for new overhead power lines and a third track on the Stratford branch ... nothing for the liverpool street line other than a commitment to work with the lobby groups
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Old 9th Jan 2013, 13:13
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From today's 'Telegraph':

Two main bidders for Stansted after Australasians pull out - Telegraph

This could be bad news for BAA, but better for STN's future if it reduces the eventual price paid. Interestingly, the requirement to make the deal 'investment grade' is 500m equity (= money) to 500m loans. This high hurdle is due to the dominance of one carrier (Ryanair with 70% of the current throughput) and the fact that STN is regulated.
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Old 9th Jan 2013, 13:38
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Regulating Stansted is surely a good thing overall. I know it's bad from Stansted's point of view but I don't see how it restricts growth. As Stansted is an airport for LCC's, then surely the owner wouldn't want to overcharge as it wouldn't interest LCC's.

I welcome to news, the lower Stansted is flogged for the better. It means that a new owner will have more to spend on future investments or if it prefers, allows it to reduce charges to airlines to attract more traffic that way and since MAG and the Malaysians are still committed, they clearly are not put off by regulation, suggesting that increasing charges were not their intentions. As for BAA or whatever they call themselves now, the worse it turns out for them, the better. They are a selfish, biased and a complete rip-off to their valuable customers (airlines and passengers). In my opinion, it's pay back time for them and they deserve evey single bit of bad news they get.
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Old 10th Jan 2013, 11:47
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As I understand it, regulation means the landing price at STN is set as is the case at LHR & LGW.
If arguably Stansteds low cost competitor airports are SEN & LTN then how is regulation a good thing for STN? Part of the reason EZY have moved to SEN is precisely because SEN can undercut on price. Regulation is designed to prevent the alleged "big boys" from riding roughshod over the alleged (no offence meant LTN/SEN!) smaller airports.
New owners will almost certainly have the capacity to cut costs & other inhouse charges as LGW have done, but regulation from their point of view will curtail how much room they have for manoeuvre.
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Old 10th Jan 2013, 12:41
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Regulation doesn't at all mean a fixed price - actually more often than not it's a price cap (Among many things), which in a monopoly situation would lead to maximum price being charged, but in competition to SEN and LTN as a LCC airport and with a declining pax and airline base I wouldn't expect that.
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Old 10th Jan 2013, 13:03
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Regulation is a price cap not a given amount that they must charge. BAA currently charge the maximum they are allowed to and keeping the cap in place will mean that nobody can increase them further. Ryanair and EasyJet both welcomed CAA's announcement that Stansted should remain regulated for that reason as operating charges cannot go up and they hope they will decrease under new ownership, but in reality are probably more likely to stay the same.

Being regulated and currently charging at the maximum limit, increased charges cannot happen, therefore bad for Stansted as they are limited as to how much they can charge, but good for airlines as they cannot be affected by price increases so therefore will not increase their operating costs.

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Old 14th Jan 2013, 10:11
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Final bids for Stansted are due on Wednesday. It's possible that the preferred bidder could be appointed by the end of the week.

Final bids for Stansted airport
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Old 18th Jan 2013, 19:57
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and the winner is MAG :-)

BBC News - Stansted Airport being sold to Manchester for 1.5bn

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Old 18th Jan 2013, 20:34
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Rumours were of an enterprise value of 1bn or just over, so MAG have paid a "full price". The debt servicing costs will be higher than for BAA so I hope they know what they are doing.

I predict that there will be no price competition from STN - they can't afford it! Will the decline continue?
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