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Old 8th Nov 2008, 12:59
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I find it hard to believe that any ground personell be it aircrew,handlers or an engineer would put such a thing in the gearbay or tiny knook and cranny of an aircraft for obvious reasons, but obviously it has happened and a very fortunate outcome, I dread to even think the carnage it could have caused, but without knowing the full truth I will refrain from making further comments .

Do we know what cargo airlines were operating that night.....Obvious ones UPS , FedEx , Titan , TNT................
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Old 8th Nov 2008, 13:33
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May have fallen out of a vehicle involved with the present runway night works and on the closed section of runway
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Old 8th Nov 2008, 18:22
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I can tell you now that the TNT A300 has no knooks and crannys
where you could stow a step ladder.

I would guess it had something to do with the runway works.
or maybe fell from a fire truck or airport vehicle.

Doubt we will ever find out.
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Old 9th Nov 2008, 22:43
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ref the thomas cook aircraft in stn this week, it was a one off two aircraft being there, they were just completing the end of the summer programme due to the late half term holidays and starting the winter programme,its all back to normal now with a based A321.
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Old 9th Nov 2008, 23:54
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Some aircraft have a small ladder stored on board leading from near the nose wheel going up to the avionics bay. Cant remember the type but thats a likely bet on how a ladder was found on the runway.
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Old 10th Nov 2008, 17:38
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FC7e7..that will be the A300F..used to go up and down the nose wheel ladder a lot when handlers couldn't be @rsed to bring a set of steps out to the northside...However it is impossible for it to fall out of the avionics bay. More likely to be a contractor from the overnight runway works.
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Old 10th Nov 2008, 22:07
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Re...various

Stepladder - it was a standard V shaped builders one and definitely not from the runway works. No one's owning up yet, but most almost certainly left on an aircraft wing or similar - no vehicles other than the inspection vehicle were on the runway between inspections.

Air Berlin - no way they're going to Aviance given that they've just had to move satellites because they couldn't get out of the Servisair contract

Air Sylhet - they'll be starting their new service in December with (I think) Servisair handling
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Old 10th Nov 2008, 22:42
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Being serious for a moment, finding a small metal part could have saved the Air France Concorde, so one wonders what Engine + Step Ladder could do.

Someone NEEDS to be identified and prosecuted for this. If you are going to humiliate the travelling public at security as they MAY be a risk to the aircraft and then go and discover a bloody great lump of metal your own runway then it's important that someone be held accountable.

I can't believe this hasn't had more exposure.
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Old 19th Nov 2008, 15:25
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Grrr

Manchester Airport loses Stansted service - Crain's Manchester Business
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Old 19th Nov 2008, 18:38
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Maybe Ryanair will launch STN-MAN, I hope so anyway .
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Old 19th Nov 2008, 20:15
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If as expected AirAsia X commence services to Kuala Lumpur ex STN then somebody will replace Eastern - perhaps Ryanair ? Many Northerners flying to Far East use the Middle East carries ( Emirates/Etihad/Qatar) ex Manchester but Air AsiaX could offer a cheaper alternative ?
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Old 19th Nov 2008, 20:23
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MAN will most likely become a KUL destination within the next 24 months anyway but we may see FR launch the route anyway.
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Old 20th Nov 2008, 09:43
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Grrr

AirAsia X gears up for London launch-20 November, 2008
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Old 20th Nov 2008, 10:54
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More bad news.....

Iceland Express are packing their bags from May, all services will operate from Gatwick.
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Old 20th Nov 2008, 11:01
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The Manchester route from Stansted does not make money simple. AirBerlin had very high LFs, but obviously negative yeilds, so if Eastern with a prop lower seating and high prices can't make it work.....forget it.
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I departed from gate 40 recently. The area was very crowded. Where's the logic of using this gate now that there is so much spare capacity farther down this wing, in less congested areas, now that the winter schedule has commenced? Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks!
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Old 21st Nov 2008, 16:55
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what is the logic of iceland express moving to gatwick when the paxs connect with ryanair , ill misstrying to spell all those long names
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Old 21st Nov 2008, 18:09
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May be because Astreus are operating the flight therefore better crew and maintenance back up at LGW base so keeping costs down. Also with LGW up for sale there may be an opportunity for some competative charges compared to STN. Easyjet and others with the many connections out of LGW may be just as good an alternative to Ryanair's network out of STN.
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Old 21st Nov 2008, 18:33
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Grrr

Has their 'deal' expired with BAA Stansted? Far more long haul connections from Gatwick.
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Old 21st Nov 2008, 18:50
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Don't know about the "deal" but I suppose it makes sense to operate from your main base to minimise costs, particularly when the main base is the "second" London airport.
The recent airline consolidation and shift of transatlantic flights from LGW to LHR and consequent reduction in runway movements may have released available runway slots which suite Iceland Express's schedule.
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