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Old 26th Mar 2017, 12:32
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BMI commence STN to LDY on the 02 May 2017.

The answer to your question plus your recent enquiry concerning the LGW to CPT flights on the Gatwick forum can easily be obtained by searching Google or the relevant airports Wikipedia pages, honest it takes seconds it really does and it's so much nicer when you find the information yourself.
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Old 26th Mar 2017, 18:18
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I haven't posted on the Gatwick thread any such enquiry

Though thanks for the info on the BMI service
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Old 26th Mar 2017, 21:46
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My apologies it was someone else on the Gatwick forum that asked about the BA Cape Town flights not yourself.
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Old 27th Mar 2017, 00:10
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Probably a daft question, but why does a Boeing 777-300 need a tech stop? 5,500 nautical miles, so around 12-13 hour sector?
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Old 27th Mar 2017, 08:49
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It's not necessarily a 'tech stop' for refuelling as obviously a Boeing 777-300ER can make it from Kuwait to JFK non stop, as with the previous Shannon tech stop and similar to Pakistan Internationals stop at Manchester on route from Pakistan to JFK it has more to do with US immigration issues as the country doesn't allow direct flights from these two countries. Am sure someone else can put it in a more eloquent fashion.
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Old 27th Mar 2017, 15:17
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Deeper investigation.

Did Kuwait Kick Out United Airlines In Retaliation Against US Government Non-Discrimination Rules? - View from the Wing
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Old 27th Mar 2017, 20:13
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Kuwait Airport has apparently failed to meet the levels of sterile security demanded by the TSA and associated US agencies in addition to the Israeli Passport issues.

As such they are currently prohibited from flying none stop services TO the US

For some months KU117 has transited Shannon westbound however with no traffic rights.

At Shannon everyone is trooped off and re-screened to US standards however problems are twofold

1. What to do with anyone failing re-screening in Eire (and this does happen)
2. How to manage crew hours since no base is near by.

So Kuwait have been looking for alternative solutions and the most ideal would be to reinstate the LHR transit of KU101 however those slots are now used for an increased frequency LHR-KWI service.

MAG group were approached and Manchester considered for the transit operation as the airport has experience with such operation with PIA

However the problem remains how to handle those failing screening and there return east

The home office were not convinced by escorted mini busing south to return those to Kuwait, or of the legality of routing them back through third country such as Doha or UAE direct from Manchester .

The best compromise seems to be Stansted it meets the security standards required and can be relatively quiet at sometimes of the day

Passengers can be trooped off re-screened and trooped back on. Any one failing screening can be detained and returned east after a nice escorted mini bus ride round to Slough Windsor and Hounslow regional

Same for crew change other way round M25.
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Old 27th Mar 2017, 21:23
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Seems like KU are going to an awful lot of trouble and expense if their home base airport cannot get security standards up to scratch. Could the Kuwaiti Govt not step in and get the airport to find a way to solve the problem ? Secondary screening at the gate is not impossible for the rest of the world if needs must...
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Old 28th Mar 2017, 16:14
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Jet 2

First aircraft at Stansted (G-JZHW) ready for Thursday's launch.
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Old 28th Mar 2017, 17:07
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Both of the initial two aircraft are at STN now for the launch on 30th March. The second, G-JZHU arrived around 1/2 an hour ago in Jet2holidays livery. G-JZHW arrived yesterday. Will eventually build up to seven based aircraft by the peak Summer season.
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Old 28th Mar 2017, 21:47
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What is happening at Stansted as Luton is taking many diversions?
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Old 28th Mar 2017, 21:58
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Protesters on the runway I think.
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Old 28th Mar 2017, 22:32
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Seems that protesters who believe that no one should be deported and that the uk should be an open house have surrounded an aircraft that had deportees aboard.
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Old 28th Mar 2017, 22:38
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We're a democracy and people want their right to public protest, even if the time and place of the protest makes life (temporarily) awkward for others. The pain-in-the-butt nature of this protest makes society in the UK healthy in the long run.
Now if Mr/Ms Plod could kindly remove them so others can carry on with their flying activities...
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Old 28th Mar 2017, 22:45
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They should deport the protesters
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Old 28th Mar 2017, 23:02
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AGREE 100%......Questions will/need to be asked how they got onto the airfield...by passing security ...not good
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Old 28th Mar 2017, 23:11
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Inside job? Gaining airside access should be impossible, but recently a 'chap' was picked up allegedly walking along a taxiway at Luton! I don't think that event was widely reported?
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Old 29th Mar 2017, 07:33
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No doubt the "alleged" protesters will get a few hour community service.

It would be great if the airlines brought a civil action action against them for their losses but I don't suppose the protesters have got that much money in the bank.
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Old 30th Mar 2017, 06:33
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Cancel their benefits with immediate effect, then prosecute for making illegal entry into a secured area.
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Old 30th Mar 2017, 07:36
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Anyways......moving on...Good to see the inaugural Jet2 flights ALC/FAO leave within 40mins of each other this AM....
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