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Old 20th Sep 2016, 21:30
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Personally great that J2 are operating to Reus. I was hoping for another Bcn route too but maybe in year 2
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Old 20th Sep 2016, 22:46
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The addition of Kos by Jet2 is also a bit of a two fingers up to FR, given they just announced they're abandoning the island as part of a spat with Greece.

FR's response to all this will be very interesting given their "no growth" position.
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Old 20th Sep 2016, 23:22
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Wow! Jet2 have massive confidence in the launch of their STN base being a success!
Alternatively : Jet2 have massive confidence in their own product and their ability to sell it that they even think they can make a STN operation of this size work after failing to get capacity at a more prefferable London airport
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Old 20th Sep 2016, 23:46
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Originally Posted by Itchin McCrevis View Post
Alternatively : Jet2 have massive confidence in their own product and their ability to sell it that they even think they can make a STN operation of this size work after failing to get capacity at a more prefferable London airport
Firstly...

Why/how have some of you come up with the conclusion that STN is/was not Jet2's preferable London departure point?

They actually have a good history with STN from their days as Channel Express as well as the mail/cargo operation.

Secondly...

Folk in the London region will fly on their jollies from any of the London airports if it saves them a couple of hundred quid. Just look at Ryanair and how they manage to drum up demand on routes that no one else would ever imagine. If the price is right people will use it. We're not talking business/city routes here. It's bucket and spade.
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Old 20th Sep 2016, 23:53
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'After failing to get capacity at a more preferable London airport'

And which airport would that be?

I think STN was always going to be there preferred airport unless you know otherwise!

I don't think for one minute they even considered LTN and LGW was a definite no considering the 83 weekly flights they have announced at STN.
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Old 21st Sep 2016, 00:13
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Why would you want to go up against, for instance, Alicante:

At LGW with EZY, DY, ZB, BA, TOM and even FR are back from Oct '16

or LTN with EZY & ZB

When at STN there is very little competition on these 'leisure' routes with just Ryanair in this instance. Yes Ryanair are dominant at STN and have been very clever in seeing off any competition on what they view as their territory, but Jet2 especially with their holiday product, has a completely different offering to Ryanair.

We're not just talking Jet2 Holidays poaching customers from other Stansted based operators, some of these customers will be poached from the other London airports and tour operators. People will pick STN over say, LGW if the price is right. Thomas Cook, Thomson and Cosmos (do they even still exist?) are the ones that should be most concerned. Jet2 look to make a massive impact on the SE package holiday market. Their success up north speaks volumes for what they can do.
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Old 21st Sep 2016, 01:00
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Not wanting to take sides but LGW would not have had preferred slots and LTN would not have a overnight stands next spring. An operation this size could only go one place. The Jet2 brand is still unknown in the south so it is going to need a massive marketing budget.
I'm surprised no-one has said anything about BA, must be worrying for some of their routes from STN?
I wish them luck.
LTMA is going to be much busier next year and we could once again see departure delays in being released into airspace or conflicts due to LCY and NHT movements....
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Old 21st Sep 2016, 05:27
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For Jet2 to launch an operation of this size they had only one choice and that was always going to be Stansted so I wonder if they got a great deal? No doubt if Luton had started its redevelopment a year earlier then Jet2 would have at least had a choice and maybe the chance to squeeze a better discount out of Stansted.

With Luton beings as popular as a turd in a Mediterranean swimming pool and Stansted being further away from Birmingham than the easy drive to and from Luton, Jet2 will have a completely separate catchment area, which might be another reason why Stansted could serve them well.

I doubt if anything has changed since I last flicked through holiday brochures a few years ago but while Gatwick always seemed to have several pages of departures Luton and Stansted was lucky to muster up half a page between them. There has always been a historic bias for IT companies to concentrate their London programme on Gatwick but at least now the balance is starting to be re-addressed with a North London airport now gaining some ground.
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Old 21st Sep 2016, 06:58
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Regarding the catchment areas for the new Jet2 flights out of Stansted. Having recently moved my UK base from Bedfordshire to East Sussex I would personally not even contemplate flying from Stansted (nothing against the airport by the way) just the logistics (road/rail) and cost (still cannot understand the cost of petrol/diesel in the UK compared to Continental Europe). It would have to be Gatwick and possibly Southampton for me. The airport's which should be worried in my opinion would be Luton of course followed by Birmingham, Southend and East Midlands. Far easier for people north of Stansted to drive there. I was told some years ago that a considerable amount of Luton's traffic lived north of Nottingham, whether this is relative today is open to question. Do not forget Thomas Cook will commence flights from Luton next spring so even more competition.
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Old 21st Sep 2016, 19:25
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LTMA is going to be much busier next year and we could once again see departure delays in being released into airspace or conflicts due to LCY and NHT movements....
Stansted departures are not affected by either of these airfields at all.
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Old 21st Sep 2016, 20:23
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LAMP does mean that the STN CLN sid often has short notice restrictions placed on it due to inbound LC traffic
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Old 21st Sep 2016, 22:52
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I don't think for one minute they even considered LTN and LGW was a definite no considering the 83 weekly flights they have announced at STN.
C'mon guys, putting aside the fact that I do know for sure that they considered other London airports, how can you possibly believe that a canny and sucessful company as Jet2 would make an investment of this scale without first thoroughly evaluating ALL the possible options, no self respecting Board would accept such a proposition.

I will confess to having no knowledge if STN was their preffered or just their only option in the end, that was just a poke at the local fanboi's for lulz
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Old 22nd Sep 2016, 04:20
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I will confess to having no knowledge if STN was their preffered or just their only option in the end
You should have just finished your sentence with the word 'knowledge' instead of feeling the need to elaborate.
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Old 22nd Sep 2016, 12:41
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You should have just finished your sentence with the word 'knowledge' instead of feeling the need to elaborate
LOL great riposte, worthy of anyone in my family (are you sure we're not related?), made me chuckle all morning
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Old 22nd Sep 2016, 13:50
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Any news about the increased number of security personnel and Border Control staff that will be needed to cope with the increased number of passengers?
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Old 22nd Sep 2016, 15:14
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Any news about the increased number of security personnel and Border Control staff that will be needed to cope with the increased number of passengers?
Ha ha! You know how to pull a leg...
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Old 22nd Sep 2016, 16:18
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Doubt it will even be much different anyway. LS will mainly fly in during the off-peak periods when you'd normally get straight through passport control. It can't really get much busier during peak times than it already is.
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Old 29th Sep 2016, 21:46
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Can't help but notice that easyJet are recruiting for S17 cabin crew and pilots across all their UK bases, apart from STN. Maybe it really is the end...
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Old 1st Oct 2016, 19:19
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Or maybe they are fully staffed at Stansted for S17 and do not need to take on anyone else.
Why is everyone so negative when it comes to Stansted


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Old 2nd Oct 2016, 13:01
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easyJet aren't recruiting at Belfast, Newcastle or Glasgow either. These four bases are generally regarded as some of the happiest in the network so crew retention is generally higher, hence there is no need to recruit. More worrying is the amount of crew they need at the other bases where people are trying to find any way out!
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