Airlines, Airports & Routes Topics about airports, routes and airline business.

STANSTED - 2

Old 19th Feb 2015, 17:35
  #2961 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Essex
Posts: 1,235
Doesn't really surprise me. Having been to Enfidha Airport last year, it really doesn't have the low - cost carrier in mind. You can tell it was designed as a premium airport, all air bridges and I would imagine a horrifically expensive airport. Have always thought Monastir would be a better choice for EZY when they eventually started Tunisia. I dare say FR would use Monastir too if they came to Tunisia, certainly not Enfidha.
FRatSTN is offline  
Old 19th Feb 2015, 19:06
  #2962 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: 35,000ft
Posts: 676
Have to disagree with you there FRatSTN

Enfidha was built as a gateway for the Tunisian beach resorts surrounding Hammamet, which is some distance from Monastir by road. It was always intended that the charter operators would use it as their gateway once opened. It was never designed for premium traffic.

The whole 'low cost airports can't have airbridges' is a myth. It doesn't determin whether an airport is low cost or primarily for premium traffic. What does determine this is the airlines that use them.

Come on you should know this. Wouldn't Luton have them if that was the case? After all it's full of flag carriers like El Al and Tarom. They would be gold plated too seeing it's now a 'boutique airport'
pamann is offline  
Old 19th Feb 2015, 20:57
  #2963 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Essex
Posts: 1,235
Enfidha Airport was designed as a premium airport as it was actually originally planned to be a 2nd hub for Tunis air before becoming a gateway for holiday flights. I know there's more to it than air bridges but its quite an unusual airport and gives the impression that it must be an incredibly expensive airport for the airlines. Having been there trust me it is not an airport I'd expect to really see EZY or FR at. That could change in future but not surprised EZY have gone for Monastir over Enfidha. Anyway, back to Stansted...
FRatSTN is offline  
Old 19th Feb 2015, 22:58
  #2964 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Southampton
Posts: 1
pamann

Excellent reply well done
canberra97 is offline  
Old 19th Feb 2015, 23:52
  #2965 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Essex
Posts: 1,235
Pamann

I hadn't seen the Wiki page but rather remember it from the time. You've given your view and I've given mine and obviously don't agree, why the outrage?

This is after all a thread about STN, people coming here expect to see topics about STN. That should be pretty simple out of respect rather than your idea it seems of waiting for a mod to tell you off.

Bar the fact that I'm struggling to see where your superior knowledge is coming from, I also don't think it's for you to tell me to watch my "on-line tone"... considering you also are not a moderator.
FRatSTN is offline  
Old 20th Feb 2015, 00:17
  #2966 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: 35,000ft
Posts: 676
Right for starters; my question has everything to do with Stansted, seeing it asks a question about a newly launched route to Monastir.

Secondly; Your response is scripted from Wiki, unless you have a photographic memory, I very much doubt you'd read it sometime previous and memorised it. Have you read the whole of wiki? Are you some kind of aviation oracle?

Lastly; your attitude stinks in your replies tonight. You don't need to be a MOD to determine that! Don't forget some of us on here have backed your posts up in the past and supported you. It's a long way to fall down when you have no support.

So my question remains.
pamann is offline  
Old 20th Feb 2015, 17:04
  #2967 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Essex
Posts: 1,235
...and perhaps unsurprisingly nobody else has attempted to answer it. Neither does anybody on this forum need support like it's some kind of football match.


Good to see the Mayor and the Chancellor's announcement of the "West Anglia Task Force" looking at improved rail links to/from Stansted, or rather along the London-Stansted-Cambridge Corridor (LSCC). Findings to be reported next spring...


?West Anglia Task Force? to study options for improving London-Stansted-Cambridge rail links - Business - East Anglian Daily Times


George Osborne and Boris Johnson signal improved service for train passengers from Cambridge | Cambridge News
FRatSTN is offline  
Old 20th Feb 2015, 17:56
  #2968 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: southern spain
Posts: 1,726
Do you think it might be to do with an election which is due in three months, old cynic that I am, seen and heard it all before.
compton3bravo is online now  
Old 21st Feb 2015, 05:37
  #2969 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: southern spain
Posts: 1,726
Could you further expand in a reasonable manner FR on your thinking on why Enfidha is not suitable for ´´low cost´´ operators please. While you are at it maybe the operations department at Jet 2 would lke to know your reasons as well as they have chosen to operate to the airport this year.
Best stick to Ryanair me thinks!
compton3bravo is online now  
Old 21st Feb 2015, 09:12
  #2970 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Essex
Posts: 1,235
Not really, can't think of what else needs saying tbh and I'm not going to just change my mind because other people don't agree. But whether LS use NBE or not is irrelevant to what EZY do.


Also might be interested to see that EZY is designated carrier on the route, so could be part of the agreement that they use MIR.


“EasyJet is a designated airline on the UK-Tunisia Air Service Agreement and is therefore able to operate flights to Monastir."


EasyJet to launch Tunisia flight | News | Travel Trade Gazette


Now can I very politely ask that we now put this topic to bed?
FRatSTN is offline  
Old 28th Feb 2015, 20:07
  #2971 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: STANSTED & MANCHESTER
Posts: 1,683
Fingers crossed

Long-haul flights to key business destinations in America and the Middle East could be in place at Stansted by next year.

Andrew Harrison, managing director of Stansted Airport, told the News that he envisages securing their first long-haul carrier by 2016.

During March, Mr Harrison will fly to the United States to promote the region to airlines in a bid to secure flights to destinations like New York.

He said: “Our focus is now starting to shift onto some of the carriers we don’t currently have. I am keen to bring in long-haul to destinations that businesses in Cambridge want to use.”

A corporate liaison manager has recently been employed to help approach the airlines, help them understand the potential and secure deals.

For the first time last year, Thomas Cook Airlines announced some long-haul flights from Stansted – only for the summer – to holiday destinations like Orlando, Las Vegas in the USA and Cancun in Mexico, starting in July.

But Mr Harrison hopes to secure its first long-haul carrier to be used by businesses and passengers all year around the world.

He said: “We have had advanced conversations with a number of different carriers. We have got them interested in Stansted again.

“For businesses in the Cambridge area there is always a range of different destinations that they want – but New York is clearly a major one.

“Also in the biotech sector Boston is always talked about, as well as Los Angeles and San Francisco.”

Last edited by daz211; 28th Feb 2015 at 20:11. Reason: More info
daz211 is offline  
Old 28th Feb 2015, 21:18
  #2972 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: In the sticks
Posts: 6,902
He said: “Our focus is now starting to shift onto some of the carriers we don’t currently have. I am keen to bring in long-haul to destinations that businesses in Cambridge want to use.”
For businesses in the Cambridge area there is always a range of different destinations that they want
I wonder if London Stansted will change their name to Cambridge Stansted as they seem to have given up marketing the airport for London.

“We have had advanced conversations with a number of different carriers.
Like La Compagnie
LTNman is offline  
Old 28th Feb 2015, 21:45
  #2973 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Manchester, UK
Age: 46
Posts: 656
MAG is working very hard for STN. I'd rather have one of the big US carriers tempted to STN than La Compagnie that's for sure, and it'll happen sooner or later. I'd really stop trying to compare willy sizes with STN if I were a LTN fan...it'll become depressing for you, IMO.
eggc is offline  
Old 28th Feb 2015, 22:03
  #2974 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Middlesex (under the flightpath)
Posts: 1,915
Long-haul flights to key business destinations in America and the Middle East could be in place at Stansted by next year.

Andrew Harrison, managing director of Stansted Airport, told the News that he envisages securing their first long-haul carrier by 2016.

During March, Mr Harrison will fly to the United States to promote the region to airlines in a bid to secure flights to destinations like New York.

He said: “Our focus is now starting to shift onto some of the carriers we don’t currently have. I am keen to bring in long-haul to destinations that businesses in Cambridge want to use.”

A corporate liaison manager has recently been employed to help approach the airlines, help them understand the potential and secure deals.
The triumph of hope over reality? It's been tried before umpteen times, even after Cambridge became a high-tech centre.

Is there enough business in Cambridge to support this? The rest of the south will use the more comprehensive longhaul offering at Heathrow.

For the first time last year, Thomas Cook Airlines announced some long-haul flights from Stansted – only for the summer – to holiday destinations like Orlando, Las Vegas in the USA and Cancun in Mexico, starting in July.
That's more like it, yes, this makes sense.

“For businesses in the Cambridge area there is always a range of different destinations that they want – but New York is clearly a major one.

“Also in the biotech sector Boston is always talked about, as well as Los Angeles and San Francisco.”
Probably right, a trans-Atlantic carrier will start, but won't stay very long.

I wonder if London Stansted will change their name to Cambridge Stansted as they seem to have given up marketing the airport for London.
Sounds very FR-ish, "Cambridge-South".

MAG is working very hard for STN. I'd rather have one of the big US carriers tempted to STN than La Compagnie that's for sure, and it'll happen sooner or later. I'd really stop trying to compare willy sizes with STN if I were a LTN fan...it'll become depressing for you, IMO.
Some say harder than for Ringway!

Last edited by Fairdealfrank; 1st Mar 2015 at 17:33. Reason: capital C needed for Cambridge
Fairdealfrank is offline  
Old 28th Feb 2015, 22:15
  #2975 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Manchester, UK
Age: 46
Posts: 656
I'd disagree slightly with your last comment Frank...the massive £800m Airport City about to start sprouting up, too many new routes to list and on the verge of announcing sizable terminal redevelopments...MAG are just as serious about MAN as they are STN, as they should be. MAG will pay off for STN in regards to LH eventually.

Last edited by eggc; 28th Feb 2015 at 22:44.
eggc is offline  
Old 28th Feb 2015, 23:12
  #2976 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Essex
Posts: 1,235
It's just a case of wait and see.

But one thing I would say is that both the micro and macro environment regarding long-haul at STN will be quite different now compared to how it was in 2007/8 when STN lost most of its long-haul.

And I think the less said about the effects of BAA's total mismanagement of the place, the better!
FRatSTN is offline  
Old 1st Mar 2015, 17:35
  #2977 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Middlesex (under the flightpath)
Posts: 1,915
I'd disagree slightly with your last comment Frank...the massive £800m Airport City about to start sprouting up, too many new routes to list and on the verge of announcing sizable terminal redevelopments...MAG are just as serious about MAN as they are STN, as they should be. MAG will pay off for STN in regards to LH eventually.
Fair enough eggc, stand corrected about MAG and Ringway, but remain unconvinced about Stansted longhaul.
Fairdealfrank is offline  
Old 1st Mar 2015, 17:41
  #2978 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Northumberland
Posts: 4,344
Our focus is now starting to shift onto some of the carriers we don’t currently have.
If this is accurate, and a large amount of spade work hasn't already been done, 2016 seems optimistic for any start.
SWBKCB is offline  
Old 11th Mar 2015, 10:06
  #2979 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: bishops stortford herts
Posts: 1,304
The excellent pax growth continues with February`15 figures showing a 24.6% increase over Feb`14 for a total on the month of 1,469,727...Busiest February for seven years.....
southside bobby is offline  
Old 11th Mar 2015, 13:17
  #2980 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: 35,000ft
Posts: 676
FR 3x weekly to Castellón from September
pamann is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us Archive Advertising Cookie Policy Privacy Statement Terms of Service

Copyright © 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.